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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:01 pm
by Something_Smart
So Bulge is the only person whose posts you haven't read?

That is surprising to me, I thought Bulge was one of the people with the easiest posts to follow.

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:04 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 1874, Alisae wrote:why is tunnel where they are here
I could go back and dig through their ISO to try to remember what made me feel that way but uh not tonight. As it stands I just... yeah I won't pretend to remember. I guess I just haven't really seen anything agenda-y?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:29 pm
by zMuffinMan
sorry, which mariar reads are "spicy"?

i take it you're probably not referring to the 69million scoville 420 read, right?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:42 pm
by Alisae
What I meant by Spicy was its just different from the gamestate.
The Remlia read stands out (mostly everyone has this slot as town I think), the TR on me stands out

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:44 pm
by Alisae
Technically I am misusing the word, but I feel like those things stand out to me at least

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:48 pm
by zMuffinMan
at the time mariar gave the read, bork hydra was far from a consensus town read. most people did not have bork hydra as town

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:51 pm
by zMuffinMan
you are a in a bit of a weird spot where there were some people calling you town and some people calling you scum but most people hadn't given a read

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:52 pm
by zMuffinMan
i should probably mention i keep a working model of everyone's reads and how they change over the course of the game in my head. i am fairly sure both of those statements are accurate, though feel free to fact check

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:55 pm
by zMuffinMan
but to be clear, you're saying you expected mariar to scum read you if she's scum?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:08 pm
by Alisae
In post 1883, zMuffinMan wrote:but to be clear, you're saying you expected mariar to scum read you if she's scum?
Nah.

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:30 pm
by zMuffinMan
so just as an experiment in proving my memory isn't faulty.

prior to mariar's reads in 1484, i called bork town, bell said bork was a little townie, fferycabd said they want bork to be town but couldn't commit to that read and april/plusjoyed had expressed some level of suspicion towards bork. the majority of the game had not given an opinion

prior to mariar's reads in 1484, bulge said you're tonally town, plusjoyed called you town, april called you town, the only people expressing any real suspicion of you after you showed up were bork, bell and to a lesser extent memory

so bork was far from a consensus town read and you were far from a popular scum read and you were already getting town reads from other players

so, at least those reads are far from going against the grain and if that's the sole reason you're town-reading mariar then uh... ok

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:31 pm
by zMuffinMan
to a lesser extent me*

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:32 pm
by zMuffinMan
you didn't find any of mariar's posts interesting enough to comment on in your catchups?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:44 pm
by Alisae
In post 1887, zMuffinMan wrote:you didn't find any of mariar's posts interesting enough to comment on in your catchups?
I read them but I didn't feel the need to comment in thread about it

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:51 am
by PlusJOYED
In post 1838, Bell wrote:Do you have any evidence that, that’s the case?
What is your most accurate scum and town tell?
nervousness is a scumtell
lying/misrepping is a scumtell
stuff without explanation is a scumtell: faking reads is easy but giving reasons for that is hard
... ect
shit, do you want me to send you a link on a mafia guide? This question kinda annoys me, like i don't want to write an essay explaining how i play when in reality it's very subject to context and change

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:15 am
by PlusJOYED
In post 1840, Alisae wrote:Who scumreads me and who scumreads mariaR
i think you are town i think mariaR is scum

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:20 am
by PlusJOYED
can someone please explain aliase being scum to me also? preferably not muffin because i don't trust them

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:42 am
by Secret Tunnel
IVs almost caught up! He was mid fifties this morning.

@alisae I’m not townreading either of you. I guess that’s the closest thing to scumread I have this game

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:53 am
by morph the cat
In post 1888, Alisae wrote:
In post 1887, zMuffinMan wrote:you didn't find any of mariar's posts interesting enough to comment on in your catchups?
I read them but I didn't feel the need to comment in thread about it
What differentiates the stuff that you comment about from the stuff that you don't?

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:52 am
by PlusJOYED
I will admit I dislike aliase refusing to read bulge; I must've missed that before. In the event that bulge flips red that's really sus. But I could also see if ali flips red somehow that it might've been a bait for a towny mislim against town!bulge. It might've been buying time to give a read on their scum bulge partner, but that's pretty overt and idk if aliase would do that when they could easily just not mention bulge too.

They can make an excuse that maybe they found bulge posts boring but that doesn't feel like a TvT interaction to me. That knocks Alisae a bit lower for me.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:32 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1894, PlusJOYED wrote:In the event that bulge flips red that's really sus.
Explain?

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:42 am
by Tammy
I'll be sending out any necessary prods later today.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:17 am
by midwaybear
In post 1891, PlusJOYED wrote:can someone please explain aliase being scum to me also?
I can't really debate your reasons not getting any scumpings, but the catchup was not really townie to me.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:55 am
by midwaybear
townreading muffin town too

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:17 am
by The Bulge
Did an impromptu day-trip, mb should have posted v/la.