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Can you find that post where Vax says hes more confident this game?

Are we uh gonna call ti good on me? That was pretty anti-climactic.


I think ffery passed out again.

I don't think she'd NOT be here if she was awake.

Just woke up and have stuff to do. Back shortly.

FUCKING SCUMMONED <3

I mean, I can't out my entire thought process regarding you. My goal was to get some more info out on Syry for others to be able to read as he's been somewhat lost in the abyss. While I get the frustration of not being able to engage the game, I don't know how I feel about the combo of him+skitter anymore given the reasoning behind his main scumread is sheeping skitter's.

In post 461, Vaxkiller wrote:Its obvious! (maybe not early on)

As scum I spend most of my time scheming and planning (I love it)

As town I just post EVERY thought and sometimes I get a good game (like this one) and I feel particularly bold and and town the fuck out of it by going over board. There was one boonskies game I played many years ago like that.... we lost tho

This one, NS.

That's fair, there is some sort of disconnect between the two mindsets.

In post 369, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 290, Elements wrote:Also I prefer she/they pronouns thanks

I usually try really hard to just use they, sometimes I slip up. Regardless its my fault, and I'm sorry.

Also (to anyone) if my persona is a little to much please let me know, as the real me is nothing like how I play this game. I'm a little boisterous because I feel like my voice sometimes get lost in the veterans and better players than myself. Deep down I know I'm not that great at this game, but I just want my opinion/thoughts to be heard.


Ok back to it

There is another disconnect here between the boldness he says he has and the "I'm not great at this game" in the above quote.

That's the disconnect I was referring to, sorry.

@Vax, reconcile these two for me?

In post 1693, Prism wrote:

In post 1692, fferyllt wrote:I wasn't surprised to see peta make that post.

I was incredibly surprised to see it, peta is a man of very few words that range from off the cuff to very carefully selected.

He definitely knows it's time to kind of return the favor now that he's convalesced while I'm on the downswing but that post was very, very long and preaching to me principles that I'm typically the first to espouse. It did not feel like a genuine attempt to talk me specifically but instead make a global appeal, which he seems to have kind of admitted to.

My very first instinct on reading it was a hard scumclaim but I'm not going to follow that.

glad to see you understand so little of my scumgame, friend

In post 1697, Prism wrote:If he's going to try and talk me specifically off the ledge that's fine but everything about that post says that its target was a general audience and that he's fine letting my beliefs stick.

no? i indicated wanting to talk you down from this. i haven't really gone into the specifics but i don't support voting bork and i definitely don't want a wagon on you to the point i would probably counterwagon a lesser townread

In post 1701, notscience wrote:Ffery I skimmed vcs why was there a vax wagon he looks town

is he, tho?

In post 1734, notscience wrote:Syr/Peta/Skitter?

Is that crazy?

i would like to think that if i were on a team with skitter, we'd be playing better right now. (but maybe not. that discussion would be a sidetrack right now, though)

In post 1744, fferyllt wrote:Peta moved up a tier or two since my reads list.

I'm at the enviable point of having no scumreads.

now that's concerning

In post 1753, notscience wrote:Regarding peta, I didn't like that big wall about the power of friendship. One distinctive thing I remember from playing scum with peta was how good he was at manipulating emotional responses to get his way. He's probably my weakest read of the three, but it is tricky to put more sense to it.

explain to me the benefit of making that post as scum? what i was saying was that we should be trying to win the game via assembling strong townreads rather than simply hacking away at whoever is acting strangest, and also saying i wanted to avoid a 1v1 i saw as destructive and unnecessary.

i'm not even saying you should townread me for that post (because that would be fucking stupid), but trying to get townread via a game health post at the cost of taking 2 potential mischops off the table by breaking up a TvT fight (as you postulate with you scumteam guess) would be exceptionally poor strategy as scum, considering i laid out how scum wins this type of game in that post.

In post 1759, notscience wrote:In a game like this it seems most like an arms race amongst everyone to look as town as possible. It's why it's trickier to grab scum.

what i said in that whole post is that people here are good at hitting the surface level indicators. no one's going to be obvious in that regard.

In post 1771, Prism wrote:

In post 1764, notscience wrote:With the new sample set how does that effect your read on him here?

It's difficult to really apply lessons to this one, here he is being a lot more careful because of the table.

2033 is very bruteforce in its tonal play because he knew he could get away with it. He's intentionally being overly aggressive in 2033 to exploit the lack of experience of the table and leverage probably the biggest strength chat mafia players have over forum ones: having tone down to a science.

I would have instantly read 713 and AFK voted-but he would have never made 713 with me there.

okay maybe you understand my scumgame a little bit more than i thought...



...bastard

In post 1850, skitter30 wrote:gonna circle back to that in a bit ^

syyyyyyyyyyyyyyyr why are you townreading me?

scummy quote stripes, boom

torn between the desire to catch up and comment on the stuff i wasn't able to post about while i was out and entering the current vax discussion given i've had concerns i was holding on to

Yeah we can talk about the ffery newbie now. Wheeeeee

skitter30 wrote:

In post 1850, skitter30 wrote:gonna circle back to that in a bit ^

syyyyyyyyyyyyyyyr why are you townreading me?

did you hammer just so you can ask me this lmao

no, plz dont' say that

i hammered before u gave ur readslist
and plz don't say that, that makes me kinda sad

Can someone point out to me any discussion of things that can be alignment indicative in the past couple of pages?

dgb are you able to follow any of this :3

In all seriousness, he's kidding skitter. You played well, I had BM but not donki myself before being spoilered.

yeah but i wouldn't do that and i kinda dislike that i was asked that

tough one. i've been there a lot

In post 1890, skitter30 wrote:i hammered before u gave ur readslist
and plz don't say that, that makes me kinda sad

I was kidding, skitter. I know you went through a lot of thought before you hammered and I can't honestly say I'd have made a different choice.

As for that, I like how you keep questioning your reads and re-evaluating in this game. Reminds me a lot of your town-game in the newbie!

I apologize if I caused any offense, skitter. I didn't mean in any way to devalue your play in the newbie game.

that's fine
i just really don't like the implication that i may have hammered a newbie to influence this game, that would be really slimy :/

In post 1896, Syryana wrote:As for that, I like how you keep questioning your reads and re-evaluating in this game. Reminds me a lot of your town-game in the newbie!

and i dont' think u should be townreading me here off of the newbie, which is why i'm kinda like ????