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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:13 pm
by WhemeStar
In post 1871, Kate Bishop wrote:If you're following a Cabd or an LLD I hope it's with the intention to learn and get to a place where you're comfortable playing based on your own game thoughts.
This was actually a good take and I have never thought about it.

Now that I think about it when I originally started sheeping someone it was probably eadiantcowbels and I do think I learned some things from watching them hunt/play as I really respect their play.

Although I don’t think I can really learn from LLD as I don’t think ill ever be able to use emotion the way they do to play mafia.


P.S sorry for bribing up RC cabd and making the comparison

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:14 pm
by WhemeStar
Gif let me be a sad eboy and sulk

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:16 pm
by WhemeStar
Think I am tapping out for the night eyes are getting heavy. I am sleeping in hotel room floor because I refuse to share a bed with srceenplay so if I can’t sleep because I’m uncomfortable I’ll hop back in.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:20 pm
by Kate Bishop
I’m not sulking bc I have dgb and giffy here :)

Also dunn is v funny this game too

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:26 pm
by unwnd
What about me

Honk honk

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:27 pm
by Kate Bishop
Also unwnd

I have done a fair bit of laughing this game

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:30 pm
by unwnd
It's gonna be funny we eject titus on D1 twice

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:40 pm
by Kate Bishop
No it’s not I feel so bad :(

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:41 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1875, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1871, Kate Bishop wrote:If you're following a Cabd or an LLD I hope it's with the intention to learn and get to a place where you're comfortable playing based on your own game thoughts.
This was actually a good take and I have never thought about it.

Now that I think about it when I originally started sheeping someone it was probably eadiantcowbels and I do think I learned some things from watching them hunt/play as I really respect their play.

Although I don’t think I can really learn from LLD as I don’t think ill ever be able to use emotion the way they do to play mafia.


P.S sorry for bribing up RC cabd and making the comparison
You can absolutely learn from watching us, because emotion is present in all players, regardless of how skilled they are at controlling or reading them.

Besides, a lot of the crux of my play is about motivation and intent as opposed to just emotional intelligence. But I won't deny that emotions are a big part of a game like this, and something I've very comfortable seeing and playing around as a result.

What you could learn from me, if you are a player who struggles with emotion as a game factor, is that if you view each player as you might a... say chess opponent. And ask, when they make this move (and requiring that you have some respect for their skill), what are they intending? What possible moves can they be setting up for the future? And why did they choose THIS particular move/opening/variant over another, and what does that mean for their motivations and goals.

If a player trends towards a great level of scum equity for future setup moves, and/or has a greater motivational likelyhood of being scum based on WHY they chose this path over another, you scum read and pressure them. If they have a clear town motivation, they may be good at hiding their scum motivations, but if you keep asking "why did they do this? what are they trying to accomplish?" you will have a sense of both their:

Motivation (why did they do this?)

and

Intent (What do they plan accomplish?/What moves are they setting up for the future?)

If you learn anything in mafia, about playing town, from me, learn that.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:49 pm
by Titus
In post 1882, Kate Bishop wrote:No it’s not I feel so bad :(
Why do you feel bad here? The last game you should have felt bad. I told you exactly what I was doing, exactly what scum would do, highlighted one of the scum and you still failed. Here, from what I have gleamed. My slot dove straight into a salt mine.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:14 pm
by Kate Bishop
In post 1884, Titus wrote:
In post 1882, Kate Bishop wrote:No it’s not I feel so bad :(
Why do you feel bad here? The last game you should have felt bad. I told you exactly what I was doing, exactly what scum would do, highlighted one of the scum and you still failed. Here, from what I have gleamed. My slot dove straight into a salt mine.
that was notsci.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:22 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 1751, Toogeloo wrote:I had no intention of playing this day the way I have, but the moment both cabd and Wheme basically turned LLD into a triple voter, and LLD is basically, "lalalala kill the panda, no ifs ands or buts," I basically said fuck it, I don't give a shit about this game anymore.
...

That happened like, a day(?) into d1. Giving up that early doesn't sound reasonable. I feel like if you didn't care anymore you either would have full claimed or withheld your whole claim out of spite. The way you've been trickling info the longer your wagon goes on indicates you do care imo.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:47 am
by WhemeStar
Good morning

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:47 am
by DrippingGoofball
@Titus

Pls clarify the claim, thanks.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:53 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 1752, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1749, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 1747, WhemeStar wrote:Why his claim specifically?

What were your thoughts before his claim?
I started at scum on toog, and tested it looking at older games. Mostly they didn't contradict the read, but there was one fairly significant difference I found in a scum game. Just one, which made me nervous and I wanted someone else to see that issue, and also to read some older scum games to keep testing.

That got shelved because god damn his play doesn't support the role he claimed.

If you were town with such a powerful, interesting and fun-looking role, would you have played this day the way he has?
I’m not sure how he has played the day honestly I can iso him if that would help
Not even a high-level overview of his actions? He's kinda been the center of attention. Are you actually caught up or not?
In post 1759, Cabd wrote:I know you hate homework, but would you mind comparing DGB's pre-outburst play to its play in this one?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85085

I'm off to go mow the lawn. Home ownership: bah
Lawn service: yay
In post 1760, Cabd wrote:
In post 1552, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1536, Cabd wrote:Wtf so many pages.

I get ONE decent ish night of sleep and this is my payment.


Well then.

Catching up mobile. About to be daughter breakfast time here.
These degenerates finally went to sleep and stopped posting long enough for me to catch up before daughter breakfast time
Should I take this to mean you are also a parent? Realized I never got to actually reply to this~
Yeah, I have a 3yo
In post 1849, Kate Bishop wrote:
unvote


Haven't been feeling luke scum since the last go-around with DGB.

Forgot we had it there.

It's going to be painful for notsci, but we intend to vote Titus once it's time to send the wagon home.
Yeah Luke has picked it up recently. Thinking he's most likely town now.

Maybe game is just an easy {Toog, Wheme, DGB}. I feel the least confident about DGB by a ways though. It's too anti-town by nature and I think I got the misconception I could read it well because in my first town game with it, I caught scum!DGB on D1.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:58 am
by WhemeStar
In post 1889, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Not even a high-level overview of his actions? He's kinda been the center of attention. Are you actually caught up or not?
Nope I haven’t read like the first pages before my first post

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:13 am
by Lukewarm
hello Titus. You're here for real this time?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:19 am
by Lukewarm
In post 1781, WhemeStar wrote:LLD is also null
Wheme. This post broke my brain...

You have been sheeping Cabd/LLD.

Then claimed that cabd was a scum read, so I assumed your intent changed to sheeping LLD... but she is not a town read either?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:19 am
by Lukewarm
In post 1782, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1781, WhemeStar wrote:LLD is also null
So why are you sheeping LLD/Cabd?
In post 1783, WhemeStar wrote:If it ain’t broken don’t fix it
omg

wheme :/

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:22 am
by Lukewarm
ohh. I have reached Toog's rep out :/

Toog, if you are still reading along, I'm sorry you feel this way. Prioritizing you is definitely more important then the game. I also want to let you know that I have really enjoyed out games together, you are a good presence on site.

Take care of yourself dude.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:25 am
by Lukewarm
In post 1816, Kate Bishop wrote:I feel bad Titus is about to effort a doomed slot :(

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:26 am
by Lukewarm
Me thinking about killing Titus day 1 again after Bloodstained

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:28 am
by Lukewarm
In post 1826, ManateeGal wrote:yea i really do not want to have titus' death warrant signed and have her just wait around for the lim
Jesus Manatee....

Did you not think about the implications of this line of thought?

And like, that question holds through regardless of your alignment

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:37 am
by Lukewarm
I see that manatee clarified that.

Wheme has been sinking in my reads, but there were a couple posts last night in his exchange with kate that looked good.

Hi Titus, have you been reading along? I know you accidentally posted once before rep in lol.

At the very least, I see you have an opinion on your own slots performance, do you have thoughts on other slots?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:40 am
by Lukewarm
@Titus, but not game related lol

Spoiler:
In post 1884, Titus wrote:The last game you should have felt bad. I told you exactly what I was doing, exactly what scum would do, highlighted one of the scum and you still failed.
I do feel bad about that game, mostly because I never intended for you to did without a full claim, and I think that would have been enough for me to back off, but then suddenly you were dead, so :dead: :dead:

But at least for me, this did not really appeal to me at the time, because you were using the same logic to call me scum and I was town, so it did not really ring true in my brain