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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:41 pm
by unwnd
In post 1794, Snarky Fishes wrote:{pooky, AA, lukewarm}
{^v? manateegal, spiffeh}
{titus}
I read the thread

There are no russians below null

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:41 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:42 pm
by unwnd
My only fear of going along with LLD on her need to kill Medea is that she's getting her comeuppance from Yggdrasil where Medea (Cabd) can't squirm

But that's paranoia talking. I think I admire at the least her willing to try it

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:43 pm
by Annie Edison
Of the bunch I'd still bet the game on Fishes town.

I'm leaning heavily towards town LLD too. There's flecks of paranoia here and there in my post I mentioned to spiffy.

Medea
did
get a lot better after the pause, but that's concerning in its own right. As LLD and Ceph brought up it's weird they didn't say the demon thing right out of the gate. After tenet it gets harder to outright pull the strings on this group in particular. They would have to answer to being alive down the line. Why does scum-Medea try to break up my tunnel on AA9?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:45 pm
by Snarky Fishes
In post 1851, unwnd wrote:
In post 1849, Snarky Fishes wrote:"the clique won't kill each other!"
If this is not true then tell me it isn't
You're more interested in winning an argument than you are with playing mafia. /: You're cutting out the whole to argue the point you want to make.

I really don't think the hot cold and push pull of regular mafia doesn't extrapolate to the push-pull here. If you look at our reads, they've pretty much evolved organically based on a player's response.

When Medea was mad we hesitated and got upset.
When Medea explained themselves we were reassured at a part of the puzzle fit into place but it wasn't perfect.
When Medea promised to go hog wild and then didn't our read slipped backward.

I'm not denying there isn't history or whatever, but you really need to pay attention to the rhythms. This game has been focused on the players that know each other, trying to aggressively sort each other and hurting and getting hurt in the scuffle.

So like, I get that you think we won't eliminate each other or what not. But has that been true?
Didn't we kill LLD last game. I don't remember what you're talking about in terms of this. Because A60 was transported out, Spiffeh was pushed quite hard, Gyphx wasn't in a clique either. LLD was pushed hard by Peta and I was about to go after LLD before I died. etc. I also don't recall our thread having this issue. You could argue that the other thread had that issue, but Cabd tried to kill me that game and I only hung on by the edge of my teeth etc.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:46 pm
by Here There Be Dragons
In post 1878, Annie Edison wrote:Medea did get a lot better after the pause
Got anything to back this up because I haven't felt that

We got some rainbow reads... that didnt do much for me

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:47 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1880, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1878, Annie Edison wrote:Medea did get a lot better after the pause
Got anything to back this up because I haven't felt that

We got some rainbow reads... that didnt do much for me


Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:47 pm
by Snarky Fishes
Could we use clique or something instead of russian's it's kinda nationalist and what not.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:48 pm
by Annie Edison
Tone felt better as well as finally doing *something*

But am I attributing too much positive to it?

ninja-
what about wine club

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:48 pm
by unwnd
It's D1 and shit doesn't make sense. I'm not trying to make it a habit to remind you. I just wonder what's going on and why everyone is so veiled in their intentions. The biggest thing you could do for me is to be more open and unashamed. Your post to me indicates that you don't know how you feel about Medea and that's fine, I don't know how I feel about them either. What do you like? What don't you like? GTH would you eliminate them?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:48 pm
by Snarky Fishes
In post 1875, unwnd wrote:
In post 1794, Snarky Fishes wrote:{pooky, AA, lukewarm}
{^v? manateegal, spiffeh}
{titus}
I read the thread

There are no russians below null
I've moved both luke and manatee up. Manatee is not as high up as you want, but I'm not voting her, and the only reason I'm still voting Spiffeh is because I am not going to tie the votes between him and luke.

The reason I asked you who the Russians are is because to me, Spiffeh and Titus qualify. As do you. As do the Dragons.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:49 pm
by unwnd
Wine club/clique is fine

The narrative was borrowed from Monkeyman's game

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:49 pm
by Here There Be Dragons
In post 1881, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1880, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1878, Annie Edison wrote:Medea did get a lot better after the pause
Got anything to back this up because I haven't felt that

We got some rainbow reads... that didnt do much for me

They're taking control by putting in effort?

Or they dont have control because they arent putting in effort?

I dont think either of these guesses is right tbh

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:50 pm
by Annie Edison
They didn't need much effort to control things but that change meant they needed to last longer, so they need to excercise more control?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:51 pm
by Snarky Fishes
This site is glacial right now. makes having a heated argument impossible

pedit I hate wine club.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:52 pm
by Annie Edison
Ffery what do you think of the fact a decent chunk of PA's push is predicated on manatee positioning with the knowledge that Medea is town?

I hadnt thought much of it but on reflection it does kinda feel like they are trying to assert their towniness.

ninja-
I dont like clique

what about the funky bunch

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:54 pm
by unwnd
I personally don't feel anyone has been hurt

I also don't feel like anyone
would
get hurt. If you decided to eliminate me I would not hold it against you

I want to believe everyone here is above that

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:54 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1881, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1880, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 1878, Annie Edison wrote:Medea did get a lot better after the pause
Got anything to back this up because I haven't felt that

We got some rainbow reads... that didnt do much for me
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:56 pm
by Here There Be Dragons
They're trying to have control without exerting effort?
Sorry, I'm not very good at this

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:57 pm
by Here There Be Dragons
Or the rainbow reads are effort? I thought they werent... ah I hate that I suck at this.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:57 pm
by Annie Edison
That they went from controlled play to effort play?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:58 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1893, Here There Be Dragons wrote:They're trying to have control
without exerting effort?

Sorry, I'm not very good at this
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:59 pm
by Annie Edison
They increased effort to increase their pull in thread?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:59 pm
by Snarky Fishes
I feel clique is appropriate because it communicates the negative view Upwnd is incorporating into their view that we don't eliminate each other.
I don't take much issue with the idea of baggage making players who play together a lot have markedly different approaches to each other with a lot of emotional levers and rhythm disruptive tools at their unique disposal creating a harder to eliminate group.

There are a lot of variables though, like for example, I just don't get eliminated very often. I'm hard to eliminate and that's partly style and reaching the benchmarks most players want. Outside of this group of people I still tend to be widely town read d1 and rarely voted.

-Bell.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:00 pm
by Snarky Fishes
In post 1890, Annie Edison wrote:Ffery what do you think of the fact a decent chunk of PA's push is predicated on manatee positioning with the knowledge that Medea is town?

I hadnt thought much of it but on reflection it does kinda feel like they are trying to assert their towniness.
I'll need to go back over this. which probably doesn't happen tonight.