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was *once again* busy with work today, going to catch up but i'll need some time, glad to see the game is alive again

In post 1873, marcistar wrote:

In post 1866, Freedom wrote:

In post 1864, marcistar wrote:iactually do lowkey think dstisis scummy

i think johnnys towny

i thought bellaphant was scummy but thats until datisi decided to wagon there
shes still scummy tho

im fine with a bellaphant wagon
VOTE: bellaphant

marci, could you explain a bit more?

no thank you

literally what do u want me to explain more
nothing theres confusing

Uh.
I might've missed the part where you said why Johnny's Towny.
(Especially, since after talking to STD, he might've misread his role and Johnny is not cleared of making the kill.)

To be clear, the bracketed part was nothing to with marci.

I'm alive. I'll be around to chat while catching up if anyone's around

In post 1673, Gamma Emerald wrote:JF you wanna actually bother to explain your read on me?

Don't have a good one yet bb girl lemme work. You fit my POE tho.

In post 1676, Crescent wrote:There are exactly 3 people who never voted him. Thinking the solve is that easy is dangerously lazy.

Frfr Crez hit it on the head here scampii

In post 1691, Gamma Emerald wrote:There’s also the fact he’s a hard read and I think that’s tactical on his part

You make me sound like a super villain -_-

In post 1707, scamper wrote:i actually think more likely than not JF would be the one making the kill on most scumteams here

Wuh

In post 1725, Crescent wrote:It's all a matter of meta really.

...Very interesting that obvtown Scamper's the only unvote here.

So like, I always get a lil paranoid when I'm the top wagon, but I felt this.

Lol scamper did a meta dive for me

ISO dive idk what I'm on

In post 1738, Gamma Emerald wrote:ngl
If you weren’t basically conftown I’d be scumreading the shit out of this
This entire wall looks like you are deliberately spouting the most uncharitable takes possible on me

In post 1740, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah I want to try and rebut that wall but there’s just 100% bullshit so idk where to even start

then just tell me where i'm wrong

because, like, I'm not even voting you or pushing you off that but I don't find you towny anymore

In post 1764, Crescent wrote:I have a pretty solid towncore right now

Honestly really feeling this. Std, Freedom, Crez, Scamper and Ausuka win this game for us 100% it's why this game has been on the back burner.

In post 1747, Datisi wrote:

In post 1726, Alexcellent wrote:Datisi what's the progression you found?

Spoiler:

In post 330, marcistar wrote:ur so buddy buddy

In post 861, marcistar wrote:

In post 857, Freedom wrote:

In post 848, marcistar wrote:in before

I see.

In post 851, Ausuka wrote:What I'm trying to say is I don't think the scummy stuff necessarily needs to be looked at through the lens of a scum strategy.

This is a good point.
Not everybody strategises as scum. Some people as scum panic and do ridiculous things like locking into a minigame that is the easiest for scum in GotF early.

noo can we pretend it was planned... my egos shattered....
early game is easiest to find if im scum i think since ill panic easier... but my associatives always suck ass too so

In post 858, Freedom wrote:

In post 855, marcistar wrote:can we vote corwin

Explain.
Is it to do with their push on STD?

no
its bcuz of the buddy buddying!!

In post 863, marcistar wrote:

In post 862, Freedom wrote:

In post 861, marcistar wrote:

In post 857, Freedom wrote:

In post 848, marcistar wrote:in before

I see.

In post 851, Ausuka wrote:What I'm trying to say is I don't think the scummy stuff necessarily needs to be looked at through the lens of a scum strategy.

This is a good point.
Not everybody strategises as scum. Some people as scum panic and do ridiculous things like locking into a minigame that is the easiest for scum in GotF early.

noo can we pretend it was planned... my egos shattered....
early game is easiest to find if im scum i think since ill panic easier... but my associatives always suck ass too so

In post 858, Freedom wrote:

In post 855, marcistar wrote:can we vote corwin

Explain.
Is it to do with their push on STD?

no
its bcuz of the buddy buddying!!

I see.
Where did STD buddy Corwin?

not that

i think corwin buddy buddied bellaphant

i don't think that main-scum, who is aware that there is a traitor in the game, goes out and attacks someone for "buddying". i think that buddying is something they'd actively be on the lookout for from their traitor, so it's counter-intuitive to be making false cases on people getting "buddied" because that's something they're currently looking for.

but even if she did to this^^, then i think there would've been a progression of "aha, i said corwin is buddying bella!! corwin flipped traitor!! therefore xyz" and not whatever 1679 is, which was also made after she was specifically asked, as opposed to immediately/early

i'm not sure i fully get this read but it feels like a read that comes from town in terms of it being a slightly outside the box thought process, and im somewhat thinking marci is town regardless

In post 1783, Save The Dragons wrote:im having a hard time seeing gamma scum

it's certainly possible gamma got more engaged as scum since she played the potions game (she was scum and did nothing) but it's hard for me to reconcile

interesting, i'll take a look

i'm not realy sold on bella-town but don't feel like running her up to out what her role is, atp i'd save it for a mass claim day and see what to make of it then

i got distracted and went to skim the gamma scum game and i feel like she actually did *more* that game and was more aggressive and got into arguments a lot with pushing people. im not sure its an obvious difference, but maybe thats because my perception is altered from not having been in the game. does make me question my read though, maybe std can explain it better to me

In post 1658, marcistar wrote:gamma ur clearly scum as well

keeps promising ur gonna play games w me but u never do...

jk i have other rzns

In post 1865, marcistar wrote:

In post 1863, Gamma Emerald wrote:Datisi is towm

cant say the same for u huh

That actually did spur a thought though, which is that I thin kit's +town for marci to be outing a read like this on gamma even if she hasnt explained it, cuz gamma has been her number 1 defender - scum gladly just accept the pocket and reciprocate the read and shes not doing that

In post 1828, Crescent wrote:

In post 1826, Ausuka wrote:

In post 1744, Bellaphant wrote:Could elim in Alex/Johnny/datisi basically

Bella could you elaborate on your feelings on these players you'd be willing to eliminate

I know you've found it difficult to get into the game so I'm sorry I can't be more specific but like, just saying the feelings you have about these players and giving them an ISO if you have the time should be fine

Bella chiming in would be nice, but also Freedom. He's actually done even less than Bella has today, and has yet to even share a read of any kind and has mostly just Hood-talked about STD.

It's kinda frustrating how low-energy this day has been. Giving me all sorts of 2273 vibes where half the town sat on it's ass.

i just checked and freedom is kind of concerningly trending toward IIOA but i dont think i want to go there today either

In post 1844, Datisi wrote:sooooooooo

anyone gonna join me on the alex wagon then?

can you elaborate on the case on alex? I meant to read him today but I was busy and didn't have time to do so myself

i gotta sleep, i'll get to the other stuff in the morning

Bella pressure might end up being a good thing to try to force her to engage the game, kinda like the Johnny pressure was.. Trying to do. I don't feel great about it, but I also don't think a claim a necessary. JF did not claim at -2.

Speaking of past Gamma games a moment, Gamma is already way above their 2272 post count (a game in which they were town). The level of engagement/aggression in general here is markedly higher than it was that game. It's possible Gamma is a mood influenced player like I am and that's why it seems like STD and Scamper are conflicting. I'm already in bed but I'll take a look at that ISO tomorrow.

I gave a personal argument on Alex, which he ignored when he voted Datisi for vote hopping, which, to be fair, was a legit criticism. I'm not sure what Datisi's argument on Alex is.

But it is interesting that Alex did not address it at all.

In post 1818, Datisi wrote:im twon

Hi twon

yeet

Bellaphant[4]:

Save the Dragons, Ausuka, Datisi, Marcistar

Datisi[1]:

Alexcellent

not voting [7]:

Bellaphant, Crescent, JohnnyFarrar, Gamma Emerald, Freedom, marcistar, Scamper

mod note

Datisi is VLA for a few days! Get well soon Dats!

Perf vc timing!

Bella wouldn't have been my first choice for a wagon here, but I don't have a huge problem with it.

@Bella, I intend to put you at E-1 sometime in the next 24 hours. When you see this I'd recommend a claim