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ReaperCharlie wrote:

Andrius wrote:I club Gurgi with a blackjack. Ransack the room, see that he's still fending for himself

(like RC and me, aka town)

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Andrius wrote:I feel like RC is trying to get me to investigate Yos. Hrm... I think

if RC is scum

, Yos is town. Or that's epic bussing.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

FATAL SYSTEM ERROR

Hello, Yos2's scumbuddy.

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You do realize that, if Robo's telling the truth, Andrius has been protected from recruitment every night since he claimed, right?

I don't think there's any way Andrius is scum, unless Robo is lying.

ReaperCharlie wrote:In other news, I am baffled why Andrius hasn't at least attempted to investigate Yos2 since the start of the game, even with the near 100% probability that he's been recruited by now.

Oh, bull. I'm significantly less likely to a recruitment target then any of the people who have claimed power roles, and we've had major claimed power roles in the open since day 1.

Well he could be if he was recruited Night Zero.

Also, I'm open to suggestions for protecting, but make them in numbers, so it isn't totally obvious to the cult.

Robocopter87 wrote:Well he could be if he was recruited Night Zero.

Yeah, but that's much less likely. He was much more likely to be a recruitment target after he claimed on day 1. Plus, his play on day 1 seemed really town-ish to me, personally.

And, hey, best case scenerio here is that one or more cults tried and failed to recruit him on night 1 or night 2. In that case, we may be dealing with less current cult members then I'd been assuming.

Right. But just throwing it out there.

You know, does this mean I'll be recruited tonight? Because I claimed? I mean, theres no one to protect me.

Back from V/LA. Thoughts later. Don't expect anything terribly in depth or philosophical. There's not much to go on, since we seem to be talking in circles.

Yosarian2 wrote:You do realize that, if Robo's telling the truth, Andrius has been protected from recruitment every night since he claimed, right?

I don't think there's any way Andrius is scum, unless Robo is lying.

Unless Chrono blocked Robo and was lying about being blocked himself.

It's pretty obvious that all sorts of shenanigans went on last night.

Yosarian2 wrote:

ReaperCharlie wrote:In other news, I am baffled why Andrius hasn't at least attempted to investigate Yos2 since the start of the game, even with the near 100% probability that he's been recruited by now.

Oh, bull. I'm significantly less likely to a recruitment target then any of the people who have claimed power roles, and we've had major claimed power roles in the open since day 1.

Blah, blah, blah. Again I must bring to light that you were a perfect target to recruit on Night 0.

Is everyone forgetting the mod-flavor last night with the lesbian sex? Seems like mod-confirmation that Chrono was roleblocked to me.

There is no way for us to know that Chrono is female. And to assume that the mod would give us flavor about somebody being roleblocked is mod-WIFOM. Even if two sluts DID get it on last night, there is no way for us to know that, unless Chrono claims flavor. But that still leaves us at: why would the mod give hints on last night's night actions in the main post? Somehow I don't believe that Flay would do that. I could be wrong, though.

How else do you explain that bit of flavor?

@Robo: Can't remember if you've said this already. Who are your suspects as of right now?

Happy with Gurgi's recent posts. I had something else I wanted to say here, but I seem to have forgotten it...

On a semi-unrelated note: Busy week, posting will probably be scarce. This is up there on my priority of postings though, so I should be able to make some comments in passing.

I too believe that vezok would not be setting up a fake claim.

gandalf5166, 1908 wrote:Is everyone forgetting the mod-flavor last night with the lesbian sex? Seems like mod-confirmation that Chrono was roleblocked to me.

How does the sex in the night lead Chrono to RBing you? Did I miss something?

xvart.

Lets make a "Cannot be a cult recruiter" list ..
ooba
singersigner -> loose cannon play. Although recent play leans towards "Recruited"
Andrius
Lord Gurgi
ReaperCharlie
Robocopter87

Talking about any of the above is a waste of time until we hit the recruiters.

Porochaz
xvart
Friend
Chronopie -> Leaning towards not being a recruiter too
Erg0
Yosarian2
gandalf5166
Flameaxe
Andrius
inHimshallibe

ISO these folks and give your picks for recruiter .. I'll be searching for behaviour wherein the person tries to lie low - not get into conflict much - or somebody else drawing the heat away from this person ..

ooba wrote:Lets make a "Cannot be a cult recruiter" list ..
ooba
singersigner -> loose cannon play. Although recent play leans towards "Recruited"
Andrius
Lord Gurgi
ReaperCharlie
Robocopter87

Talking about any of the above is a waste of time until we hit the recruiters.

Porochaz
xvart
Friend
Chronopie -> Leaning towards not being a recruiter too
Erg0
Yosarian2
gandalf5166
Flameaxe
Andrius
inHimshallibe

ISO these folks and give your picks for recruiter .. I'll be searching for behaviour wherein the person tries to lie low - not get into conflict much - or somebody else drawing the heat away from this person ..

You do realise, you are being very dull...

Hey, ooba. I like how Andrius is on both lists.

Also, xvart. It was (RB) that claimed to be RB'd last night, not gandalf.

The reason for gandalf's argument being: If both Chrono and the as-yet-unnamed roleblocker are prostitutes according to flavor, that might account for the 'sexy'-flavored night/morning flavor that we received from the mod. However, we have no confirmation that Chrono is a chick, and we have even less confirmation that the unclaimed RB is one. Either way, even if they both are, I find it extremely hard to believe that Flay would put it in the flavor if such were the case.

Anyway, I like what ooba is doing. Poro seems to be very discouraging of any semblance of town initiative, which I'm not sure is normal for him seeing as I've never played with him before. But it doesn't seem very pro-town. Either way, even though I absolutely hate that ooba put himself on the 'cannot be recruiter' list (because I still have my suspicions), he IS heading in the right direction.

My top picks for recruiter are the guys who have said the least so far (or at least, those who I remember saying the least): Erg0, Flameaxe, inHimshallIbe, or xvart. I suppose it could be gandalf or Friend or Porochaz too, but I'm just not feeling it from them.

ooba, why are you leaning against Chrono being a recruiter?

Lists are not good for town. Lists with guess what, no reasoning, are pointless and dull. Scumbag ooba fails to interest me with his town reads.

Porochaz wrote:Lists are not good for town.

Is this your opinion? Or is there some level of site-wide acknowledgement of this 'fact'...

...because it sounds suspiciously like a personal preference.

Bit of both. Lists give scum a good indication of general town reads, who to go for, who to NK etc.

So you are saying that town should refuse to scumhunt for three weeks during the day, so that the scum should experience 5 seconds of extra WIFOM at night?

No thank you.

Over exaggerate much? I said lists like the one ooba did, not scum hunting.

You said "Lists are not good for town." I am merely taking you at what you said. Lists are
a huge factor of scumhunting. Proclaiming scum- (and town-) reads is preeetty important.

Unless you'd rather leave the game to the vigs. Which (looking at ooba's claimed N1 vigkill
of zwet) is a pretty terrible idea.

So... you were saying?

ReaperCharlie wrote:

Porochaz wrote:Lists are not good for town.

Is this your opinion? Or is there some level of site-wide acknowledgement of this 'fact'...

...because it sounds suspiciously like a personal preference.

Actually, I would agree that generally lists are not good for town because it only gives scum a means of plotting NKs and who to focus on the next day, etc. I don't feel like giving vibes of certain players is a bad thing, it's just the blatant "doing the work for them by telling them exactly who they should act suspicious of, too" that I don't like. To me, it's just different than natural scum-hunting.

Nonsense.. That list was to avoid any topic like "They would have probably recruited Andrius yesterday" which is pointless ..

Stop making this an argument about lists and let people know who you think the cult recruiters are .. Or if you think one of those in my "cannot be recruiter list" is a recruiter ..

Yeah, I love how im on BOTH lists.

RC, I'd love it if you played more town-ly-like. Then I wouldn't be tempted to investigate you AGAIN.