Do you get a vengekill like Benmage did in the past Faraday's game if you get killed at night?
P-edit: OK maybe I needed that wake-up call.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:02 am
by Kagami
kaze's powers almost certainly don't work in mylo/lylo just as he said. That would be too stupid and I can't imagine it getting through review, especially if he's scum.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:02 am
by Rancid Broderick Drake
In post 1898, Bert wrote:And my play as scum would not be "shitty-ass"? Not sure how you get the notion that I have towntold extensively in this game. There is like one other person in this game who agrees I have towntold extensively. The hard-defending makes me pretty paranoid hehe.
Stop it. You've towntold through your schizo theories, suicidal nature, and the off-the-cusp responses for one. Scum had you planned as an obvious mislynch going into today(seriously go check how many people said "yeah bert's scum" at daystart). The only reason we're in this situation is because I've had your back.
PEDIT: I'm not answering questions about the kill trigger.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:03 am
by Rancid Broderick Drake
In post 1901, Kagami wrote:kaze's powers almost certainly don't work in mylo/lylo just as he said. That would be too stupid and I can't imagine it getting through review, especially if he's scum.
You have any cool datamined data on private doublevoters vs alignment?
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:04 am
by Bert
Because 'o ye orders, ye squib gunna stop tryin' to get himself in Davy Jones' treasure chest!
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:06 am
by Kagami
The mylo stipulation is odd, though. Lylo makes perfect sense.
p-edit: no. I've been consulting on top of my usual job all month and haven't had a chance to work on that much. I'd had problems with finding players' alignments automatically due to the wild variation in how moderators handle flips, which I haven't yet solved.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:08 am
by Rancid Broderick Drake
Damn.
Now, squib, please vote for mastin again.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:09 am
by Bert
I gunna comely wench bein' a martyr. Squib be sad 'bout that!
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:11 am
by Bert
Aww it translated 'miss' to comely wench. That's bad translating! Bad translator, bad. BAD.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:53 am
by Paschendale
I'm seriously confused. Kaze is full of shit, right? Nobody's hammered? And I seriously missed the catalyst for for this Mastin push. And I don't get how Bert or I will be "worked out" via tonight's night actions. Are we getting investigated? This has been my big frustration with this game. There's a group of players who all seem to be on the same wavelength and refuse to explain anything they're thinking to the rest of us. It feels like the wagon on me yesterday, and the wagons on Bert and Mastin now, stem from us not being in the "in" club. Nor do I think that all of the players (Kagami, Tammy, Kaze, Bro, and Rancid) in this special clique are town.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:29 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I'm going to gouge my eyes out.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:29 pm
by Kagami
Yes, kaze was full of excrement.
Pie is the only one I really trust, but my current opinion is that there's a strong possibility that the entire neighborhood is town, but if it isn't, kaze is the scummo. I think that bro+kthx are probably town, but the "loss" they suffer from the other dying is completely silly.
Pie more or less gave the gist of my thoughts on why bert is a bad lynch for today. I have additional thoughts about how what goes down tonight might be interpreted, but they're little more than wild speculation until it actually happens.
Why do you think mastin is town?
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:31 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Nobody is thinking for a split-second that Bert is saying "kill me" so we, y'know, won't do that?
My God. It's a Jester tell but there's not even a Jester. Why are you people so reluctant to kill obvious scum?
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:33 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Kagami, Bert is currently voting himself. If you believe him town and me scum, I should have hammered and won by now. I can't be scum if he's town.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:35 pm
by Kagami
Why would you have won?
I never said bert was town, but he might be.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:37 pm
by pieguyn
In post 1901, Kagami wrote:kaze's powers almost certainly don't work in mylo/lylo just as he said. That would be too stupid and I can't imagine it getting through review, especially if he's scum.
how about an extra scumkill that works even when it would be LYLO without it? that's p much the exact same thing as this and that got allowed. see: imperishable night http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=32587
In post 1909, Paschendale wrote:I'm seriously confused. Kaze is full of shit, right? Nobody's hammered? And I seriously missed the catalyst for for this Mastin push. And I don't get how Bert or I will be "worked out" via tonight's night actions. Are we getting investigated?
the way I see it is if we observe both of you for another night then we'll get more information from night actions, etc. that could help us figure out what your roles/alignments are. e.g. if someone does an action on Bert and it fails then he's probably a scum ascetic or similar. there's a lot of confusion as to what happened N1 and having another night could help us figure it out. thus, it's better to lynch someone who's not you or Bert today
mastin is scum bc {BRO, Tammy, me, Kagami, kthx} are all town and you and muffinati are probably town
my current guess for scumteam is {Kaze, mastin, Bert}. I'm inclined to agree with Tammy's read on Bert but I also agree it's better to not lynch him today. if it's not him it's probably Brian instead
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:38 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Never mind me. I thought for a second this was it.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:39 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Still not scum, though~
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:39 pm
by pieguyn
...wat
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:40 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I thought today was MyLo or LyLo. I'm getting games mixed up.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:47 pm
by Paschendale
In post 1915, pieguyn wrote:the way I see it is if we observe both of you for another night then we'll get more information from night actions, etc. that could help us figure out what your roles/alignments are. e.g. if someone does an action on Bert and it fails then he's probably a scum ascetic or similar. there's a lot of confusion as to what happened N1 and having another night could help us figure it out. thus, it's better to lynch someone who's not you or Bert today
mastin is scum bc {BRO, Tammy, me, Kagami, kthx} are all town and you and muffinati are probably town
my current guess for scumteam is {Kaze, mastin, Bert}. I'm inclined to agree with Tammy's read on Bert but I also agree it's better to not lynch him today. if it's not him it's probably Brian instead
You're about the only one I'm willing to give a strong townread on. Maybe Tammy, but not as much. Kagami is maybe shifting away from strong scum, but I wouldn't declare Bro or Kthx as solidly anything, especially Kthx. Muffin hydra I'm on the fence about, too, but yeah he's probably town. Kaze is definitely scum. I don't think Bert is, but self votes are never good and I feel like reasons for voting Bert are, like those for Mastin, something that just isn't being made clear to me.
So, aside from PoE, what's the case on Mastin? I really don't understand it. I'd like to understand it, but every time I ask, nobody will explain it. All I keep getting is PoE, and people handing out townreads that I don't agree with and certainly don't feel strongly enough about to PoE with. I wouldn't want to PoE at all on day 2, anyway.
Can we please just hang Kaze? He's just mucking everything up and obscuring any conclusions we reach. He's adding fog and he's pushing bad wagons.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:48 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Sure. Sure. Lynch Kaze. Sure.
I don't even care.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:49 pm
by Kagami
Muffin, I get the other points from your early post, but why did your role PM indicate to you that this is 10:3?