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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:08 am
by pinturicchio
I mean I know that would give the scumteam the option of killing whoever is checked, but that gives the PRs more days to live

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:09 am
by pinturicchio
In post 1900, pinturicchio wrote:I mean I know that would give the scumteam the option of killing whoever is checked, but that gives the PRs more days to live
But HWS was already conftown so I thought the scumteam would kill him, but whatever. Why you ask? Sorry for multipost, I'm doing something else and if I don't focus I tend to submit without thinking that much

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:27 am
by Zoronos
Real answer or handy wavey answer?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:33 am
by pinturicchio
In post 1902, Zoronos wrote:Real answer or handy wavey answer?
I don't know what handy wavey is but it sounds bad, what's the point of asking this?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:34 am
by Zoronos
Because I think the honest answer has a high chance of being anti-town, so I am giving you an opportunity to decide if you want me to divulge it or not.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:36 am
by pinturicchio
In post 1904, Zoronos wrote:Because I think the honest answer has a high chance of being anti-town, so I am giving you an opportunity to decide if you want me to divulge it or not.
I'm having problems understanding what do you want from me. You asked me why I asked about the framer thing, I answered; what do you want now

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:38 am
by Zoronos
Sorry, I should have quoted:
In post 1901, pinturicchio wrote:Why you ask?
The answer to this.
But on the retrospect, it's probably better off not answered, so nevermind.

If you want the answer, feel free to call it in whenever.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:41 am
by pinturicchio
Oooooooh wait wait, your honest answer would be anti town? Then don't answer.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:42 am
by ruru
This game's awful

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:43 am
by Zoronos
VOTE: the worst

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:48 am
by Zoronos
In post 1908, ruru wrote:This game's awful
I think the relevant question right now is what caused the game stall at EOD yesterday; both scum on wagon and lazy or both scum off wagon (or split, but if split we’re still looking at the scum on wagon being semi lazy).

The more I turn this over, the closer I arrive at MathDino’s position from yesterday.
I apologize for dragging my heels, but I think the time has arrived for wagoning and voting and such.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:51 am
by davesaz
The pre-claim game stall?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:51 am
by Zoronos
In post 1892, the worst wrote:let's just lynch scum!
And that means lynching ????

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:55 am
by Zoronos
In post 1911, davesaz wrote:The pre-claim game stall?
Yes.
Post claim wasn't really a stall. It was NSG asking for time and people not hammering out of respect for her request (then Math hammering anyway). That period lasted like 12 hours or so.
Scum was on the hook and at L-2. Then there was a lot of trouble getting the L-1 vote even though I repeatedly expressed willingness to hammer. I had to start canvassing for either that vote or a mutually acceptable alternative.
That's an unusual stall and implies either:
1) Scum are off wagon and happy being off wagon
2) Scum are on wagon and for some reason aren't heavy pushing the bus to harvest town cred.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:03 am
by davesaz
Could mean scum are on wagon wishing that town would follow bad push by town.
This implies someone hard townreading or wking the counter.
Or scum are already comfortably townreads.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:11 am
by Almost50
Sharing is Caring D2 VC #8


pinturicchio (3): Mathdino, ofrhz, BlackStar,
HitAlt (2): the worst, ruru,
the worst (2): pinturicchio, Zoronos,

Not Voting: HeWhoSwims, HitAlt, davesaz,


With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

(expired on 2018-06-21 21:15:00)


I've just received a belated B-day present. My brother bought me the WC2018 receiver, so I'm not gonna miss any games. :D

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:47 am
by Zoronos
Hey ofrhz, what's your read on the worst?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:22 am
by the worst
In post 1912, Zoronos wrote:
In post 1892, the worst wrote:let's just lynch scum!
And that means lynching ????
*points to my vote*
I don't think I've been shy about the fact Hit is a scumfuck.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:26 am
by ofrhz
In post 1916, Zoronos wrote:Hey ofrhz, what's your read on the worst?
He town

I have a hypo inno on him!

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:26 am
by ofrhz
In post 1909, Zoronos wrote:VOTE: the worst
Why?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:31 am
by ofrhz
In post 1888, davesaz wrote:I think that the posts inside this
In post 1362, northsidegal wrote:this was the interaction

Spoiler:
In post 836, HitAlt wrote:I see that MathDino isn't cleared yet either. (although I still enjoy their posting very much)
Good for us in the end I think.
Scum will have to show some of their hand when they kill if we refuse to lock anyone as town.

Tell me when you guys agree that the worst can be lynched today, and I'll be around to unvote at L-1. (???)
In post 850, jjh927 wrote:Preflips are bad, Math voting me is questionable, I don't know what IIoA means and the worst is still a really good lynch rn
In post 851, the worst wrote:incorrect and we need to focus elsewhere

also

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In post 852, jjh927 wrote:You're still on ofhrz, which is still bad and one of the main reasons I scumread you

Who else do you think is scum
In post 853, the worst wrote:Have you read my posts? srs quessun
In post 856, jjh927 wrote:
In post 853, the worst wrote:Have you read my posts? srs quessun
Yeah, but there's a lot of shit and I don't remember you saying who you scumread recently and an iso glance suggests that I'm right.

Who do you scumread that's not ofhrz
In post 857, the worst wrote:OK if you've read my recent posts I'm not sure why you'd bother asking me that question. If anyone probably you rn tbh
In post 859, jjh927 wrote:and it's shit and you can do better and you can also do better than your last one
In post 860, the worst wrote:You can do better than voting town
In post 861, jjh927 wrote:I don't think town avoids finding scum like you've been doing
In post 862, the worst wrote:I'm voting my strongest scumread ATM and have been putting about as much energy into this game as I can muster d1. I feel like I've been pretty open about how turned off this game I am and frankly who the fuck are you to BoP or criticise my playstyle?

VOTE: jjh927 flips red
In post 863, jjh927 wrote:Is that an ATE OMGUS combo
Make it look like TW vs JJH is SvS.

This is what I think.
Tell me why it's wrong.
I am not seeing it

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:36 am
by the worst
fwiw neither am I... Q

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:46 am
by Zoronos
In post 1919, ofrhz wrote:
In post 1909, Zoronos wrote:VOTE: the worst
Why?
Perhaps he scum.
Maybe for pressure.
Maybe to see what others do.
Who knows really.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:58 am
by Zoronos
In post 1914, davesaz wrote:Could mean scum are on wagon wishing that town would follow bad push by town.
This implies someone hard townreading or wking the counter.
Or scum are already comfortably townreads.
Which do you think it is?
Why did we struggle for a couple days to get that last vote?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:10 pm
by Mathdino
Speaking from an objective POV here:

- Mathdino inno on BlackStar
- BlackStar inno on ofrhz
- Zoronos inno on ofrhz
- ruru inno on BlackStar
- ofrhz inno on the worst
- the worst inno on ofrhz
- pinturicchio inno on BlackStar

HitAlt and davesaz have both retracted their innos on me and claimed VT. I don't think anyone else has jeopardized their hypoclaim (GOOD JOB GUYS :D).

Assuming each player has a 1/8 chance of being the cop, these are all the players in order of most dangerous to claiming (aka they're a possible cop or someone has an inno on them):
- BlackStar (4/8, forces claims from Mathdino, ruru, pinturicchio)
- ofrhz (4/8, forces claims from BlackStar, Zoronos, the worst)
- the worst (2/8, forces claim from ofrhz)
- pinturicchio, Mathdino, ruru, Zoronos (1/8)
- HitAlt, davesaz (0/8)

Regardless of who you think the cop is, people in the above list claiming will reduce cover for the cop.

BlackStar and ofrhz are strictly suboptimal lynches today. They would, however, be incredibly useful copchecks.

I'd like to lynch solely in the pool of {pinturicchio, HitAlt, davesaz}.

I'm scumreading pinturicchio.
I'm nullreading HitAlt (a lot says scum, but a lot today says town).
I'm townreading davesaz.

I'm willing to lynch either pintu or HitAlt.