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[Mewtaph]

Ok.

[DrDolittle]

la till saturday but am

[DrDolittle]

Am going to follow up on the thread

[Sephiroth]

Oka is obvscum =/

[Sephiroth]

@DVA

can you please answer this or at least the first part as it relates to Oka thanks.

Dva how does your opinion of Oka as active and engaged gel with his posts at the end of the day yesterday and general lack of activity and engagement around that time? I personally don't see anything at all telling in that game you linked for him that should give you a non-scum read. The tone reads to me very similar to here.

As for A50, I don't see any reason in what you said to town read him. He has a meta, and its being a troll. I think all the shit you said for him is completely NAI and in no way a strong reason to hard town read him to the extent of scum reading people who town read him. Like even if you do truly believe in your heart of hearts that A50 is town here, I just don't see the expectation of other players sharing that read as a reasonable expectation. Same goes for Oka.

Those two reads being held strongly and in a way that is reasonable to expect from others is the only way that I see your response to Mew's list as genuine. Like if his read list was 3 obvtown players I would understand but if its 3 players that you consider obvtown for not obvious reasons than I honestly don't see where your suspicion comes from here.

I also don't think your focus on setup analysis at this point in the game fits within my sense of your meta so far, which seems to be much more focused on dayplay by default. It seems out of character for you to be throwing all this emphasis on solving the game design on D2.

[Mewtaph]

VOTE: OkaPoka

[Sephiroth]

Like if you townread someone based on activity/engagement that needs to change as that behavior changes. Oka sat out almost everything leading up to the end of D1, made some weird cryptic attempt to curtail all discussion or other wagons (basically completely shutting off any chance of PP or A50 wagon), and sheep the largest wagon til lynch (as long as it fits one of BEF/Tchill). How is that town read still intact after that?

[Sephiroth]

Ugh I get such bad vibes every time Mew sheeps me though.

[Mewtaph]

;_;

[Sephiroth]

Because when I was voting Oka he was driving the game so it was wiser to vote the one I perceived as a danger to Town, now I’m just feeling more confident on PP

What makes you confident on PP?

[Sephiroth]

And further what do you mean by 'driving the game' specifically, and why is that protown?

[Mewtaph]

Actually why do you keep setting up an easy intent to hammer on me like you did on tchill >_>
UNVOTE:

[Mewtaph]

I actually want an answer to that btw.

[Sephiroth]

You can frame my stance on you however you like, but I don't like your ISO and feel buddied by you today. Also agree that your 'I'm gonna not talk much' post is contradictory. I don't see it as something town would say unless it were accompanied by some sort of pressure towards a specific inactive slot. 'keep setting up an easy intent to hammer on me like you did on tchill' is a very very specific interpretation of my play and one that kind of came out of left field. Where was that sentiment yesterday or earlier today? Why was I suddenly 'setting up an easy intent to hammer' yesterday?

[Mewtaph]

What you are doing is not a stance, it is a repeated sprinkle of paranoia towards my slot.

[Mewtaph]

You're leaning into the "What if Mew scum" angle more than a "I feel buddied and don't like your ISO" warrants. Feels like double dipping. And yes, that was also what I interpreted you saying it was tchill's D1 meta and then you hammer him while saying that.

[Mewtaph]

"I'm going to be quieter" equates to exactly that - I recognise my pushes in some places simply weren't productive or useful so I need to be dropping that as that makes more noise than content. Why exactly does this needs to be accompanied by a push on an inactive player when my word has little sway in terms of actually making a wagon rather than people WIFOMing whoever I vote (like you have been doing for the entire day phase).

[Sephiroth]

As I said, you're welcome to frame it however you want. Thats not what's happening though, and I've consistently not felt good about your slot for a while now. Basically you're scumreading me for not being sure about your alignment?

[Mewtaph]

Okay then. Yikes.

[Sephiroth]

Yikes is a great way to throw shade without engaging in the meat of what you're talking about. Funny that you decide to have a little outburst towards me after I've expressed suspicion from you buddying/sheeping me.

[Sephiroth]

Why exactly does this needs to be accompanied by a push on an inactive player when my word has little sway in terms of actually making a wagon rather than people WIFOMing whoever I vote (like you have been doing for the entire day phase).

Please explain how this isn't you just talking out of your ass. I haven't WIFOMd your votes at all, just said that I don't feel good about you sheeping me. Are you just going to start making shit up now?

[Mewtaph]

I think it's better for clearing up scum equity if I get your stance/thoughts/etc. cleared up earlier so you can't fencesit later if scum. You're talking to me like I'm turning my townread on you into a scumread. All I'm seeking is clarification.

[Sephiroth]

Actually why do you keep setting up an easy intent to hammer on me like you did on tchill >_>
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Dude this is not seeking clarification. Its an implicit accusation of not only my behavior today, but also my behavior yesterday. Clarification would be asking me what my stance on you is. And the answer would probably sound like fencesitting because as I said I'm undecided on your slot. I have scum reads and then I also have you whose ISO feels gross and whose decision to sheep me today feels bad. If you truly were of the opinion that I was setting up an easy intent to hammer on tchill theres no fucking way you would be repeatedly sheeping me today.

[Mewtaph]

That's the worst interpretation I can make of your posts, like you saying you don't like my "post less" post. It's not me making shit up on the spot, that's just what I could see happening assuming my entire read on you D1 is wrong. Not necessarily what I think is the most probable ATM.

P-edit Above.

[skitter30]

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