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In post 67, tictac wrote:VOTE: NMSA
seems constructive

Town

Up to page four I have:

Brigitte
Enter
tictac (oh well, that's me)
Ankamius

as town

Hmm I need help with my other reads.

Still gotta sort:

Elbirn Lady Angel
Nimueh
Xtoxm u r a person 2
skitter30
Chara
xRECKONERx
NotMySpamAccount
Flubbernugget
tris

In post 1897, Creature wrote:

In post 4, Brigitte wrote:Reporting in for duty on the Anukat Topaz!

I believe I have been assigned to kitchen duty today.

What would everyone like to eat tonight?


This person is on watch duty tonight:
VOTE: u r a person 2

In post 6, Brigitte wrote:Even more reason for you to be on watch!

You need be on watch for night and enemies.

I like these tbh.

im going to need a better towncase than this

In post 1802, Ankamius wrote:Nimueh (personality+meta read)

gonna trust this

In post 1904, Xtoxm wrote:

In post 1897, Creature wrote:

In post 4, Brigitte wrote:Reporting in for duty on the Anukat Topaz!

I believe I have been assigned to kitchen duty today.

What would everyone like to eat tonight?


This person is on watch duty tonight:
VOTE: u r a person 2

In post 6, Brigitte wrote:Even more reason for you to be on watch!

You need be on watch for night and enemies.

I like these tbh.

im going to need a better towncase than this

There is indeed a better towncase. Like, after page 1 Brigitte shows up to be town even more.

What does she do that's town?

I can relate to what Brigitte has been doing page 2 and 3, and it is towny for me.

I found Brigitte to be scum for stuff later on in the game

Summarize it to me?

I just double checked my notes for the first like 5 pages

everything I had for Brigitte up to page 3 was shaping a scumread, then one post each on 4-5 made me start to rethink it

In post 1910, Creature wrote:Summarize it to me?

basically her trajectory on scumreading me and my confidence that there is at least one scum in the active posters up to that point in the game; I'm currently townreading everyone else that fits that general mold.

I'm not really married to my reasoning for her sounding more fake around the fake hammer anymore, I decided to just bump it over to null.

In post 1881, Chara wrote:

In post 1879, skitter30 wrote:i basically decided to sheep ank on brigitte (kinda exactly like how i just sheeped you on varsoon and stopped pushing him last time even though i didn't particularly agree)

even though Varsoon was scum and sheeping me was the wrong thing to do, as it turned out?

In post 1882, Chara wrote:it's just sort of weird to me that you'd bring that up as a reason for you to be sheeping again when last time it didn't work out for you.

and that's different from me asking you to vote tris, since you do actually scumread her.

cuz i'm not townreading you rn; my read on the player asking me to do something (+ my feelings on the other viable alternatives) is pretty important (and i guess how stubborn i'm feeling too)

like, yes, you were wrong on varsoon, and no, i wasn't particularly vibing with your varsoon read, but i was townreading you enough and you had alternatives i liked enough (ie implosion) that i was willing to listen to you for that then

there aren't really other viable wagons that i find interesting rn - nimueh i've rethought and i think i shouldnt' open that can of worms rn and i think the vote yesterday was for largely out-of-games reasons and i don't know if i actually scumread her (or how to read her for that matter); creature is easy to read so i'm fine giving him space to do his thing (ie hte tictac slot) and i'm townreading ank and this day is beginning to exhaust me so i'm fine sheeping ank on brigitte rn because i'm not really townreading brigitte either

i don't really scumread tris hard enough to lol-follow you on her rn given that i *don't* townread you

In post 1889, Chara wrote:another thing for skitter: you've justified your paranoia about me with the lack of nightkills multiple times; scum Chara can't remove you by killing you.
but you also have mentioned a few times that you keep forgetting the game is nightless, regarding your townread on Ank that she would probably be nightkilled if town.

so it's a weird juxtaposition between remembering it's nightless every single time you mention your paranoia of me, but then what about your decision regarding Ank? are you stringly townreading her or are you townreading her with the caveat she would be removed if town?

and then something something tmi, i feel like skitter's one of the only players who even keeps bringing up the nightless thing.

hi, remember jingle's game? which sucked for a whole bunch of reasons as scum, one of which was that it was quasi-nightless and required a ridiculous number of mislynches (that would have been in my rant that i never ended up writing); i spent *a lot* of time thinking about all the various ways to handle all the townie threats that i couldn't kill. since then i'm kinda hyper-aware of how nightless changes the dynamic for scum (especially if you aren't expecting the game to be nightless, like this one), and what tactics they need to use to handle strong-ish townies - and i'm also very aware that i'm a pretty strong town player who gets herself nk'd more often than not these days.

so in that context, i'm applying my experiences in that game to try to figure out how scum might interac with me in a nightless context, and the way you were interacting with me kinda fit that profile (it felt pretty simialr to what i was trying to do with ddj there, except that i kinda failed miserably at it)

at the same time a game being quasi-nightless is unusual enough that i kinda default go back to night-ful games when analyzing the game, and i do think that in a normal/night game ank gets nk'd at some point here. i also don't know if the night-kills will get turned back on at some point, which is also something i'm keeping in mind. for right now, given that i don't know if the nk's will come back, i'm fine townbinning her and re-assessing at a later point if it seems like it'll just be a nightless game

In post 1891, Elbirn wrote:K I'm 66 pages back, no one will talk to me, and I now refuse to acknowledge anything before this post. The game starts now.

i mean i did

In post 1886, Chara wrote:pedit: i had a thought about you being scum together but i don't feel like skitter would softbus her partner on day 1.

it looks really bad if scum you ever flips.

so i find it unlikely it's both of you.

nah,i don't softbus; if i'm distancing i go all in

there's a lot of things that scum!me is quite awful at - screwing with associatives is not one of them; i'm quite cognizant of how i'd be read in the event of a partner's flip (honestly, in the event of *anyone's* flip) - when i'm scum and know everyone's alignment i prioritize making sure i look good when people flip; i'm pretty good at projecting what a given vote/unvote made right now will look like after said person fliips in like three dayphases or whatever

In post 1885, tris wrote:

In post 1879, skitter30 wrote:(and the fact that the wagon is largely formed by slots i townread reassures me too)

And me who you considered voting earlier.

*largely*

and in comparison to the other wagons it's hands-down the best/cleanest/purest/whatever

like on day1 i don't particularly expect a wagon to be *completely* clean
and i don't scumread you enough that your very presence on it would make me not want it

In post 1891, Elbirn wrote:K I'm 66 pages back, no one will talk to me, and I now refuse to acknowledge anything before this post. The game starts now.

Gosh golly gee wizz I cant wait to start playing this game with you guys

VOTE: Chara

Why are you being a meanie to skitty shes nice

does nice mean you townread me or is that just like a judgement on my character
if the former, why?
if the latter, why is that a reason to vote chara?

In post 953, skitter30 wrote:tbh this is kinda the vibe that i'm getting with you? ie that you think i'm not lynchable so you need to come up with some other way to deal with me (especially in a game that's nightless!), and so you've settled for trying to pocket and/or get me to townread you

In post 1238, skitter30 wrote:so like it's not so much that i think town!you wouldn't interact with me this way, so much as i'm wary that scum!you would be (especially in a game without nks!)

i think it was only twice, actually. i'd remembered it as more times.

i really wish i could just say "yes skitter's town" because the reply did make sense. i also wish it had been the real-time interaction i was going for. but i wish a lot of things so whatever.

as for softbussing: i figured, that's why tris/skitter never really seemed like a team to me.

Hmm

...

can you come back to brig now
this day really doesnt need to go to deadline

chara i dont think skitter approaches my entrance the way she chose to as scum

you don't think skitter downplays the strength of her reads this game and suggests you don't sheep her as scum?
to do otherwise would be inconsistent with her play this game. why don't you think scum her would?

i'd vote Brigitte if there really isn't anything else but i'm not happy about it. and i want to talk to Elbirn and see his thoughts because his slot is another that could be scum.

i don't think i much like your read progression on me tbh

the fact that it's *me* you've lost a townread on is not really the problem i'm having, it's more that the things you're bringing up i don't think are actually, like, scummy, or reasons to drop a townread.

a) not sure why me being paranoid of you is sketchy, we've done this song-and-dance before (coalition. although, tbf, you did think i was scummy there for being parnoid of obvtown!you and trying to undermine your position in the townbloc, so i guess there is precedent for you thinking i'm scummy for being paranoid of you, tbf)

b) dinging me for doing the same thing i did in prey is ... quite odd tbh, and i'm having some trouble wrapping my head around why you think that's odd/of-note.

c) i think that referring to me incorporating the currently nightless aspect of the game into my reads 'tmi' is ridiculous and borderline shading given that it's something that's in the mod's like third post of the game. of *course* that's going to influence how i approach the game, *especially* after jingle's game.

p-edit oh hi i'm around-ish i guess. i was kinda typing this and getting distracted doing other things

we have zero information, how can anyone has strong reads at this point
those things arent inconsistent with town