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ooooh another quality pagetop by Iconeum 'Getter of Pagetops' Inc.

Was that to me or to Luca?

to you ofcourse Datisi

Love u too Icon, see yall later if I'm not dead

A50 review

702 is his townread of me
761 another stand that i'm probably town here
1194 says that he saw I was crumbing PR
1651 'you don't lynch the one claimed PR in a game' A50 in regards to me
1652 fears that lynching me is actively gamethrowing
[1678/post] Votes me to L-1 but says any hammer is a scumclaim. Why pressure me if I already claimed and was answering basicly any question thrown at me?
[post]1718 claims VT

the rest of his ISO is him not caring anymore but voting the player he thought was the worst lynch and his TR for most of the game

and now his slot CC's itself

i'm unsure what to make of this, but it isn't pretty

Btw Datisi, you asked what was Town-indicative about Klick allowing both Uzi and A50 into potential LYLO - the answer is if he genuinely thinks they are town, which I think isn't unfair in this situation.

I'm really feeling Uzi is Town myself.
Klick has shown reason to doubt that A50 is scum, and Icon is now following a similar line of thought. I'm still a bit undecided on this one but it's certainly possible.

Klick is not being lynched, so perhaps you should look into Tchill? He's the only other one I'm not sure about atm.

Based on 1905, not sure how much Town is Icon feeling in A50

And why do you feel LUV is Town? You said yourself Billy was less Town than we thought. I still feel like LUV is giving vague, overly wordy answers.

I'm not feeling Tchill as Scum, but I can try to look into him later.

I agree with Klick that Billy was almost definitely Town: His reaction to the test, to believing he hammered Kop etc, and I agree with A50 that even his replace-out feels Townie, strange as that may sound. If scum have fallen behind but they are riding easy, they are more likely to stick it out and see what happens. Billy struck me as being genuinely frustrated at having fallen behind after all the Alisae BS mid-way through D1. He also played very similarly to another game I played with him where he was Town.

I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that Uzi is genuine when he says he is more interested when he's scum. His catch-up posts have been limited in terms of content but I don't feel like any agenda is being pushed at all.

In post 1873, Luca Blight wrote:Could it really be Datisi/Tchill?

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awaits incoming Flippy reference

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I mean the beauty of it is Ali would be wrong about flippy AND datisi lol.

So I wouldn't be too torn up about datisi being scum here.

But I'm not scum with datisi. And I, was right on flippy (there ya go buddy lol.)

Because self-meta can never be manipulated at all. His posts are not giving me any reason to believe that he's Town. I don't have the slightest idea what any of his reads even are right now.

In post 1882, Luca Blight wrote:Ok, fair enough, but Tchill definitely missed it as well, not that it's relevant to the point I was making anyway.

But tchill didn't miss flippy's correct alignment.

"hey tchill good play getting gobble to claim again and acting like we hadn't already claimed"

Oh thanks. Chill T how cool of you to say that.

hey tchill good play getting gobble to claim again and acting like we hadn't already claimed

also what do you make of it?

I'm gonna be completely honest. Luca's gripes with me are completely fair and understandable. I can see the cherry picking argument from his pov. I just get tired of the guy pushing me because I've mostly felt he's town.

Icon
Luca

Klick

Datisi

A50/LUV

Has been my gut/logic reads for a while now and anything else I've pushed is born out of frustration/paranoia.

I am completely uncomfortable letting a D1 cop claim and 2 lurk slots in lylo. That goes against everything in my mafiascum bones.

That said. Datisi has THE MOST equity as far as scum play goes. She's lurked, she's let the others do most of the figuring out and she comes in from behind and pushes certain angles.

A50 and LUV pushes have been primarily due to lurking. No real game play reasons.

Now I don't ever call anyone "deepwolf" I think the term is stupid. I will say the only one in my eyes capable of playing scum WELL from the rest of the lot is klick. That said I'm not gonna let paranoia get ahold of me there.

I'm beginning to believe datisi is actually the best lynch.

What's HARD to believe is... Alisae was wrong about icon/Luca and datisi.

Town claimed cop d1 and didn't get night killed.

Datisi killed the only player protecting her instead of killing the claimed cop.

A50 was gonna let us lynch him as a PR (of course I HAVE to believe this if no other vt's were lying because we only have 2 PR'S atm)

LUV would play this way as town. Now ik, I KNOOOOW THAT YALL ARE OBSESSED WITH THAT BILLY OBV TOWN SHIT BUT LISTEN.

There is a possibility of datisi/???

And there's a possibility of LUV/Klick.

And every time I've watched someone play like luv has they almost always flip scum.

So somebody tell me why a scum team with datisi kills Ali, her protecter, instead of a claimed cop.

Give me a GREAT explanation there and I'll move off trying to lynch LUV.

I've already explained motivation for scum!Datisi killing Ali in 1877.

There is also the possibility of a Scum RB, especially if we really do have at least two PR's.

I'm never voting Uzi, and I'm pretty sure Klick isn't either, so you'd better give that one up.

Who all claimed vt?

Tchill
Datisi
LUV
Klick
Luca
(not counting gobble he CC'd)

So scum is definitely in datisi, luv, Klick, Luca (obv ik, but I'm thinking out loud)

Let me go back and look in order of claim. Does it even matter? Would yall give any equity to the thought that the later vt claims would be more genuine since scum would be more likely to claim VT early? Where as if they claimed late they'd have more room to fake claim? Maybe that's just a dumb idea. Asking yalls opinions.

Haha. Give that one up. I'll move on when I'm OK with moving on. Can't rush perfection my man.

In post 1320, Alisae wrote:Honestly team is probs luca/luv

In post 1329, Alisae wrote:Shoot luca or datisi flippy
Those shots will both give plenty of info

Yeah there's Ali mentioning datisi.

Hmm... Still. Ali singlehandedly kept datisi alive d1.

*squints eyes*

Hey Ali thought Luca was scum too... Haha Jk. Not gonna start that up again....

Unless.

No no I'm just playing lol.

In post 1915, Tchill13 wrote:So somebody tell me why a scum team with datisi kills Ali, her protecter, instead of a claimed cop.

First off I think there's a strong possibility scum didn't believe my claim. After all, who would be so stupid to claim cop there?

It is VERY ODD that luv is lock town due to his predecessor.

And I don't exactly see the motivation for datisi killing the player that dismantled their wagon opposed to the claimed cop.

Now obviously Luca is fine with not even worrying about a luv/klick team.

I'd like to know what klicks read is on Luca and how sure of it he is.

In post 1921, Iconeum wrote:

In post 1915, Tchill13 wrote:So somebody tell me why a scum team with datisi kills Ali, her protecter, instead of a claimed cop.

First off I think there's a strong possibility scum didn't believe my claim. After all, who would be so stupid to claim cop there?

You would... Because you did.

In post 1329, Alisae wrote:Shoot luca or datisi flippy
Those shots will both give plenty of info

Ali was also not against a Datisi death later on.

In post 1309, Alisae wrote:Dw icon i’ll make sure u get a result

And not to mention Ali 'crumbed' (loafed) protective