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In post 1897, Datisi wrote:Any thought about DDL being bussed?

In post 1898, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1893, Menalque wrote:if you don't think this is likely to be convincing to anyone why did you spend 1683 laying out reasons for why this is as valid a reason to vote someone as voting them off your own back

I mean it is a valid reason. It's also a reason I chose. That doesn't absolve me of responsibility for the vote.

In post 1694, Iconeum wrote:

In post 1472, Menalque wrote:

In post 1406, Datisi wrote:Hmm, I was waiting for you to ask that. Not much.

I don’t love this answer btw datisi

But no further attempts on your part to sort Datisi?

I haven't been around icon, why is this AI for me?

In post 1501, Menalque wrote:If all 3 scum are on wagon when we know it was being pushed by town (sally) then why was it so hard to get through

This one and the next really give me a feeling that Menal is town trying to sort through the wagons

In post 1502, Menalque wrote:3 scum on wagon makes no sense from a gamestate pov

Like, not impossible to fake as scum, but still.

In post 1606, Menalque wrote:VOTE: GL

In post 1608, Menalque wrote:your reaction was massively over defensive and I don’t really see why town!you would be worried about it

You seem off as well in that you’re choosing to throw quite subtle shade at me instead of trying to work with me

You’re making a really weird semantics point while simultaneously saying that it’s not so much to influence the game as it is for you to look back at later despite that it’s obviously influencing the game by throwing shade at my slot

Your immediate reaction to being voted is also really defensive “how could you possibly be scum reading me” and again trying to throw shade at me which isn’t what I think you do with someone who I’m pretty sure you were townreading before

But mostly you’re trying to direct lynches onto the unproductive slots while trying to keep your distance from it by talking about how “I personally don’t have any good reason not to lynch them” which is super awkward phrasing that I don’t think is likely to come from town who I think would just say “I wanna lynch tex/DW for being lurksacks” rather than feeling such a need to justify it

It would also make sense from a gamestate point of view in that scum have probably been relatively happy with things and letting the game tick over rather than highly contesting it which makes me think the most likely slots that looked like they were lynchable today were all town (DW, tex, maybe ddl)

Realllly dislike the GL case. Dislike to the point where I think this is the game we catch scum!Menal.

why do you dislike it so much? can you be more specific instead of just generally saying "I don't like it"

In post 1629, Menalque wrote:

In post 1616, Something_Smart wrote:Menalque your GL case is primarily projecting what you expect a townie ought to think onto him.

Go on

But your interactions sometimes like this give town viiibes

Ur hard to read this game, dude

I mean, yeah, because I haven't been around enough to obvtown

In post 1639, Menalque wrote:VOTE: ddl okay let’s do this then

Can you try and sort Datisi for me? I know you know her pretty damn well in game, and I'd love for you to give a more 'full' opinion on Datisi slot.

I'm in the process of doing this now. what do you think of datisi atm?

In post 1699, Datisi wrote:I've kinda skimmed both MenavGL and S_SvAmrun will probably reread it more in depth later

Has the day finally come where we will get a DDL case?

In post 1704, AaronFrost wrote:I don't like Mena's GL case either. The entire thing is full of misreps of how GL is actually playing here.

In post 1708, Datisi wrote:I am genuinely getting annoyed at this game
We have less than 3 days
I don't feel like I have any strong SRs
And half my TRs have questionable moments

Aaron is again starting to remind me of myself in 1949
VOTE: Aaron

In post 1905, Datisi wrote:yes, and no

In post 1903, Menalque wrote:

In post 1699, Datisi wrote:I've kinda skimmed both MenavGL and S_SvAmrun will probably reread it more in depth later

Has the day finally come where we will get a DDL case?

was this question to me

YES

also did you reread those two interactions in more depth yet?

NO

In post 1709, Datisi wrote:GL, you've mentioned High Noon a couple of times wrt reading Amrun. Does my play from that game influence your read in any way?

In post 1713, DogWatch wrote:VOTE: menal
your ddl push is gross and your GL push is gross

In post 1568, Datisi wrote:TRs: {GL, Icon, S_S, alimdia}
TRs but what was that push: {Mena, DDL}
PoE: {Aaron, DW, Tex, Amrun}

This is where I am ftr

And I think I called you Town once, which was after the first wagon on you that I felt emerged for BS reasons.

In post 1717, DogWatch wrote:I'll lynch anyone below the line today.

Amrun
DDL
Icon
Aaron
alimda
GL
____

menal
texcat
ss
datisi

In post 1912, Datisi wrote:

In post 1568, Datisi wrote:TRs: {GL, Icon, S_S, alimdia}
TRs

but what was that push:

{Mena, DDL}
PoE: {Aaron, DW, Tex, Amrun}

This is where I am ftr

And I think I called you Town once, which was after the first wagon on you that I felt emerged for BS reasons.

wrt to readslist, I think this still more or less stands
though I'll have to relook S_S

In post 1724, DogWatch wrote:

In post 1637, GuiltyLion wrote:and I think regardless of your alignment he would make sense as scum

How does DDL make sense as scum if menal is scum? That would be some pretty hard bussing.

In post 1468, Menalque wrote:

In post 1425, DogWatch wrote:I'm

not so convinced scum was on that wagon tbh

. It was the amrun wagon that felt more scummy to me, not creature's.

Okay, why?

In post 1426, DogWatch wrote:tex and menal ping me most currently. I don't know what to think about SS yet but he is a possibility. If there's any scum on creature's wagon, I'd lean towards Icon. I don't think DDL is scum fwiw.

Why am I pinging you

Why is tex pinging you

Why don’t you think DDL is scum?

What makes SS a possibility?

In post 1901, Menalque wrote:I think that's a great cover for scum to fall back on after a mislynch because while, yeah, I do think your reasoning around sheeping creature makes sense, the point is that scum!you already knows what amrun would flip, which means you could deliberately display a reasoning that makes sense as to why you voted there

In post 1914, Menalque wrote:this is talking about my ddl push D1, correct?

In post 1909, Menalque wrote:

In post 1709, Datisi wrote:GL, you've mentioned High Noon a couple of times wrt reading Amrun. Does my play from that game influence your read in any way?

were you in the hydra btw? I had wondered about that

In post 1918, Datisi wrote:Posts like these from Aaron:

Spoiler:

In post 1592, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 1568, Datisi wrote:TRs: {GL, Icon, S_S, alimdia}
TRs but what was that push: {Mena, DDL}
PoE: {Aaron, DW, Tex, Amrun}

This is where I am ftr

And I think I called you Town once, which was after the first wagon on you that I felt emerged for BS reasons.

Can't really PoE though when no one here is confirmed town. Why not just say you're scumreading them?

In post 1702, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 1695, Datisi wrote:Ok first thing I'm not sure what you mean about the PoE, Aaron? Yeah nobody is conftown but those are people that I was to some extent TRing so... ?

I don't really like the use of the phrase because it doesn't really apply to the situation. Like when you use it it sort of implies that you don't have any strong scumreads, but like you've also made it clear you're not TRing anyone in that group. Why not just say you're scumreading them?

In post 1705, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 1703, Datisi wrote:Doesn't PoE literally refer to the group of people you're not TRing?

Yeah I suppose, but I think the phrase is more applicable when you can rule out conftown players to find the remaining scum.

In post 1707, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 1706, Datisi wrote:hmmmm

Aaron why did it seem Townie to you that Amrun did an Ico meta check?

I just seems like sort of a bizarre thing for scum to do or even bring up. Like you could argue that she's doing it for townpoints, but it didn't read that way to me and I don't think that's something scum!Amrun would do to try and get town points.

remind me a lot of myself in 1949. The discussion about what PoE means reminded me a lot of my shading of your Korina case because it was "spread across multiple pages and hard to read". The reason for giving Amrun Townpoints struck me as so weird and therefore kinda forced

Because I can kinda sorta maybe see what Creature was going at because Aaron doesn't ~feel Town~, but in the game like half the slots don't ~feel Town~ and I'm not sure what to make of it

In post 1922, Menalque wrote:

In post 1918, Datisi wrote:Posts like these from Aaron:

Spoiler:

In post 1592, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 1568, Datisi wrote:TRs: {GL, Icon, S_S, alimdia}
TRs but what was that push: {Mena, DDL}
PoE: {Aaron, DW, Tex, Amrun}

This is where I am ftr

And I think I called you Town once, which was after the first wagon on you that I felt emerged for BS reasons.

Can't really PoE though when no one here is confirmed town. Why not just say you're scumreading them?

In post 1702, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 1695, Datisi wrote:Ok first thing I'm not sure what you mean about the PoE, Aaron? Yeah nobody is conftown but those are people that I was to some extent TRing so... ?

I don't really like the use of the phrase because it doesn't really apply to the situation. Like when you use it it sort of implies that you don't have any strong scumreads, but like you've also made it clear you're not TRing anyone in that group. Why not just say you're scumreading them?

In post 1705, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 1703, Datisi wrote:Doesn't PoE literally refer to the group of people you're not TRing?

Yeah I suppose, but I think the phrase is more applicable when you can rule out conftown players to find the remaining scum.

In post 1707, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 1706, Datisi wrote:hmmmm

Aaron why did it seem Townie to you that Amrun did an Ico meta check?

I just seems like sort of a bizarre thing for scum to do or even bring up. Like you could argue that she's doing it for townpoints, but it didn't read that way to me and I don't think that's something scum!Amrun would do to try and get town points.

remind me a lot of myself in 1949. The discussion about what PoE means reminded me a lot of my shading of your Korina case because it was "spread across multiple pages and hard to read". The reason for giving Amrun Townpoints struck me as so weird and therefore kinda forced

Because I can kinda sorta maybe see what Creature was going at because Aaron doesn't ~feel Town~, but in the game like half the slots don't ~feel Town~ and I'm not sure what to make of it

regarding 1918 I mean I think a big difference is that arguing about PoE is very different from arguing about presentation

like I don't agree with AFF that poe doesn't work without conf!town (although it is obviously less efficient) but I think that's still really different from "person is scummy because they presented what they were saying in an unclear way" so I don't get that similarity

who are the slots that don't ~*feel town*~?

In post 1920, Datisi wrote:

In post 1914, Menalque wrote:this is talking about my ddl push D1, correct?

yes, your D1 DDL """push""", and immediate dropping of said push for you being alive even tho 50% of the people voting DDL ended up dead

and also DDL barely mentioning you and having this sorta weird TR on you throughout the game that he handwaves as "townies are wrong"

and now you stopping his lynch again