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Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:49 pm**

It’s not even midnight yet where I’m at, and insomnia

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:50 pm**

Nah, i can erase the wimpy slot completely, and I still think Ank is scum by her own play

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:50 pm**

I towncased ank because wimpy was obvious town

ank has a higher bop so I understand that her early play looks shitty, but I also don't really expect her to have perfect reads either. A lot of the stuff that you argue is agenda driven doesn't really look that way to me

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:51 pm**

In post 1000, Flavor Leaf wrote:I also town read Looker for reasons I believe I stated, and the Nomnom wagon not gaining steam after the 2 of us there in place of Gjt is something.

If Nomnom were town, scum sheep Looker and I, as we’re able to push stuff easier than others, and then we take the blame if it was a mislynch.

Nomnom is not a mislynch.

In post 1001, Flavor Leaf wrote:Rex is also bleeding town to me now. His questioning of Gjt is town indicative because if Gjt were scum with him, that post would directly link the 2, and i don’t believe white knighting Gjt, especially passively like that, is the go to scum move in that position.

Kanna drops down a bit, however. Manipulative, I feel. Dark side, could be.

I feel much better about my Looker and Rex reads

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:53 pm**

In post 1005, Flavor Leaf wrote:Looker
Nicholai
Fuzzy
Rex

Non
Joges
Bob
Gjt

Invisibility
Kanna
Ankamius

Nomnom

My way too early prediction is actually Nomnom/Ankamius/Kanna, with Kanna being able to be replaced with one my Tier 3’s or Invisibility.

Ankamius is chainsawing me and avoiding questions, and I actually think I can bring her down a tier in between Nom and the others.

Wimpy was scum.

Bring GJT up to the top one and Looker to the bottom of the top one, and this is essentially where I’m at.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:53 pm**

In post 1854, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 407, SausasaurusRex wrote:The first non-rvs vote occurs in post 16, where Invisibility accuses theFuzzyLogic99 of being scum. He does this because Fuzzy voted himself during rvs. I think that for Invisible to vote because of that during rvs is unreasonable.
Anyone
can be voted in rvs, it’s just jokes which will eventually create discussion. This forces me to come to the conclusion that further discussion was exactly why Invisibility voted Fuzzy here. Scum!Invisibility should know this is an inviable option, and town!Invisibility has no reason yet to believe Fuzzy is scum.
In the next post, Fuzzy calls it scummy to want to lynch the town potato. I find this strange, as, by this point, nobody has established themselves as anything, much less a “town potato”, which (correct me if I’m wrong), means people have good reason to believe he is town, and is being needlessly voted. For Fuzzy to simultaneously vote himself and call himself a “town potato” seems contradictory.
In 42, Kanna asks Fuzzy why he called himself the town potato. Fuzzy answers about 40 posts later, saying:
“Why did you self vote.....

because it was a funny response, at least in my opinion. TBF though I am easily entertained.

Why did call yourself the town potato?.....
see above statement”
I don’t see this as an appropriate justification, but, due to it being rvs and Fuzzy not appearing to do anything scummy later, I will let it pass. For now.

It is now that I make my first dispute with Nicholai. I voted him for what I felt was biased treatment against people, and not necessarily because I thought that he was scum. If someone has no votes on them, a vote can be used not only to indicate you think they’re scum, but also just to get their attention and show you didn’t like a comment. This was my intention during this post. This will cause the other player to write a defence, which Nicholai did, as I expected. However, this post was based around meta, and, having no meta experience with Kanna, I was unable to accept it fully. However, I could partially accept it, which helped shift Nicholai from scum to null. I know I wrote in 105 that I thought it was scummy, but upon further consideration I don’t think it was.

In 96, Salemence calls Fuzzy town, I would like him to elaborate on that.

In 132, Nicholai calls Non Ihm town, but I believe this to be sarcasm.

In 151, Nicholai says Kanna has obvtowned, but I’m not seeing where she did that by that point. The only thing that comes close is 115, but that’s not enough for a guaranteed town.

Near this point, a Salamence wagon forms, reaching L-3. I disagree with this wagon, at this point Salamence hasn’t done anything scummy.

Will be continued later.

Also this is townie

say what you say townie about it in two sentences or less

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:54 pm**

In post 1016, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1015, bob3141 wrote:But as it stands the vote activity just feels lwo with these wagons the only ones reaching 4 votes

SausasaurusRex (4): Invisibility, kanna, Non lmh, Ankamius
gtj (5)- joges, nick, nom, inv, kanna
These are both town wagons with a likely 2 on each, but the 2 are different.

You wanna know what fits that perfectly?

Nom Nom and one invis/Kanna and then Ankamius and one of Invis/Kanna.

Good work, Bob.

Let’s lynch Nomnom.

Fuck.

Yes.

Hindsight analyzing is great.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:55 pm**

In post 1905, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 1854, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 407, SausasaurusRex wrote:The first non-rvs vote occurs in post 16, where Invisibility accuses theFuzzyLogic99 of being scum. He does this because Fuzzy voted himself during rvs. I think that for Invisible to vote because of that during rvs is unreasonable.
Anyone
can be voted in rvs, it’s just jokes which will eventually create discussion. This forces me to come to the conclusion that further discussion was exactly why Invisibility voted Fuzzy here. Scum!Invisibility should know this is an inviable option, and town!Invisibility has no reason yet to believe Fuzzy is scum.
In the next post, Fuzzy calls it scummy to want to lynch the town potato. I find this strange, as, by this point, nobody has established themselves as anything, much less a “town potato”, which (correct me if I’m wrong), means people have good reason to believe he is town, and is being needlessly voted. For Fuzzy to simultaneously vote himself and call himself a “town potato” seems contradictory.
In 42, Kanna asks Fuzzy why he called himself the town potato. Fuzzy answers about 40 posts later, saying:
“Why did you self vote.....

because it was a funny response, at least in my opinion. TBF though I am easily entertained.

Why did call yourself the town potato?.....
see above statement”
I don’t see this as an appropriate justification, but, due to it being rvs and Fuzzy not appearing to do anything scummy later, I will let it pass. For now.

It is now that I make my first dispute with Nicholai. I voted him for what I felt was biased treatment against people, and not necessarily because I thought that he was scum. If someone has no votes on them, a vote can be used not only to indicate you think they’re scum, but also just to get their attention and show you didn’t like a comment. This was my intention during this post. This will cause the other player to write a defence, which Nicholai did, as I expected. However, this post was based around meta, and, having no meta experience with Kanna, I was unable to accept it fully. However, I could partially accept it, which helped shift Nicholai from scum to null. I know I wrote in 105 that I thought it was scummy, but upon further consideration I don’t think it was.

In 96, Salemence calls Fuzzy town, I would like him to elaborate on that.

In 132, Nicholai calls Non Ihm town, but I believe this to be sarcasm.

In 151, Nicholai says Kanna has obvtowned, but I’m not seeing where she did that by that point. The only thing that comes close is 115, but that’s not enough for a guaranteed town.

Near this point, a Salamence wagon forms, reaching L-3. I disagree with this wagon, at this point Salamence hasn’t done anything scummy.

Will be continued later.

Also this is townie
say what you say townie about it in two sentences or less

I’m past it. Rex’s posts in my other one i made is townier

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:56 pm**

you have it backward

it's a fucking wallpost that is continued that leads into an unvote

it is iioa

it's long, I give you that. Maybe it is town. I don't even think Sausage is lock scum, I was pushing him to sort him and to make him play the game. maybe for someone who posts so little it could be townie to put any effort into the gamewhatsoever. it's not impossible

but on its own, it feels pointless to me, *plausibly* scum writing a long post to come off as a solvy without actually solving anything

what actually is the point of the post like REALLY

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:56 pm**

which one?

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:57 pm**

Spoiler:

In post 1028, Flavor Leaf wrote:Now, my friends, my enemies, my yet to be acquainted, my comrades of the town of Mini Normal 2114, I ask of you, nay, I beg of you, to bring this amalgamation onto the head of which is to be eating like an Attack on some large, behemoth of a creature, or a Titan if you will, and band together with me as we execute the scummy Nomnomnom. I know I have yet to gain your complete trust, but allow me to lead this town into the dragon’s pit. I will slice the head off myself, I will die for you, and if luck y’all may have it, I would even
live
for you.

Put aside these petty differences, and let’s make today, January 18th of the year two thousand and twenty, a day you shan’t forget!

Execute Nomnomnom.

In post 1029, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:umm, no.....

even if you are town I do not trust your reads. I have no idea what you are which makes me trust you even less

In post 1031, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1029, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:umm, no.....

even if you are town I do not trust your reads. I have no idea what you are which makes me trust you even less
Bring this down a tier.

If you’d rather push the soft claimed PR rather than likely scum, this is 100% a distraction rn for the sake of distracting

In post 1035, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1030, skitter30 wrote:nomnomnom (4): gjt, looker, flavor leaf, nicholai
This is an obvious all town wagon...sure, you can take me out of the equation here in that sense, but if I were scum here, I’d have scum partners to join this wagon. And also, Gjt sifted PR. Unless GJT and I are scum together, it makes zero sense for me to not let him get lynched.

Lynch.

Nomnomnom.

In post 1042, nomnomnom wrote:How to avoid a lynch: just say you're a PR and town will inevitably change their perspective lol

If we aren't lynching Gjt I'm going on Invis.

In post 1045, Ankamius wrote:VOTE: Kanna

In post 1047, nomnomnom wrote:I wonder how FL would react if my vote went on Invis right now

In post 1048, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1047, nomnomnom wrote:I wonder how FL would react if my vote went on Invis right now
I was already assuming you were setting up distancing from your partner before I pushed you tbh

One of invisib/Kanna is likely scum

She’s scum dude, get over it

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:00 pm**

In post 1052, SausasaurusRex wrote:VOTE: Nomnomnom

Nah, this vote gave me the necessary momentum to help me through the Nomnom wagon.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:00 pm**

In post 1066, Flavor Leaf wrote:And just because I think you’re scum doesn’t necessarily mean I think you’re scum

@DP - see

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:03 pm**

In post 1081, nomnomnom wrote:You want scum games of mine to read? To see if it looks like anything here? There's a reason why Ank townreads me here. Just saying.

Spoiler:

@DP - Come on now...look at this exchange.

this Gjt vote is scum.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:06 pm**

In post 1094, Ankamius wrote:VOTE: Gjt

I'm over the day, let's just end it

town

In post 1140, Ankamius wrote:I cc

town

In post 1321, Ankamius wrote:lmao this is exactly the same shit you outright admitted to doing after that mini normal

I saw you doing similar things in restless spirits

I saw you doing similar things in that one krazy game you played in

and I never saw you doing this in vengeful ghosts, gameshow, or really any other game we were TvT in

what the fuck is the deal FL

town

In post 1387, Ankamius wrote:
Spoiler:
BOO

town

In post 1580, Ankamius wrote:pikachu are you pulling the wool over my eyes

town

In post 1598, Ankamius wrote:fuck where's my fidget spinner

did I leave it at home again

town

In post 1676, Ankamius wrote:T O W N
Ankamius
Detective Pikachu
Flavor Leaf
Invisibility
SausasaurusRex
TheFuzzylogic99
------------------
P O E
bob3141
joges
Looker
------------------
S C U M
Gjt
Kanna

almost exactly the amount of mindmeld I'd expect with the differences of perpsective being about what I'd expect as well, I don't agree with everything on this list but it comes from town

In post 1705, Ankamius wrote:IS ANYBODY READING THIS?

town

In post 1868, Ankamius wrote:I'm disengaging

cya

town

OOZING town

I am never fucking wrong on Ank dude, stop tunneling

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:06 pm**

In post 1155, Mislim Bait wrote:
In post 1149, Ankamius wrote:if it helps

I'm blake
oh hey
Explain why gbt is scum so I'll have a valid reason to vote my counter wagon

Oh my freaking god.

DP, you just want Ankamius to be town, and you have nothing.

Oi...

It’s Ankamius and Invisibility.

Looker is still a possibility, but I don’t really think so.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:06 pm**

So you think Ankamius’ scum game is that surface level?

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:07 pm**

you're not looking at the right thing to read Ank

Ank has good games and bad games, she clearly only barely gives a shit about this game, but she is very easily readable off tone

Wimpy was town

Ank is town

The slot

is

TOWN

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:07 pm**

Don't make me smacktalk Ank's scumgame

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:08 pm**

In post 1094, Ankamius wrote:VOTE: Gjt

I'm over the day, let's just end it

This. Is NOT town.

This is absolutely trash timing and had the potential to save Nomnom.

The fact you even consider this a townie vote completely nullfies any credit you can have with it.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:09 pm**

OOZING town

I'm going to sleep

lynch ank and I vig you

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:09 pm**

In post 1647, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 1507, Detective Pikachu wrote:Not sure who in gjt - bob - fuzzy - rex gets moved out of poe but at least two names are town

Who wants to sell me town on one of those 4?

In post 1546, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 891, SausasaurusRex wrote:My apologies for the number of posts. I had intended to put it in a single post, but, due to me using a mobile, I could not get the formatting to work. I believe I covered the important bits, but if anyone thinks I missed something, please tell me and I will rectify it.
Currently, I don’t believe anyone is scummy enough for a vote.

In post 1052, SausasaurusRex wrote:VOTE: Nomnomnom
sausage rex can you expand on what you thought made nom scummy enough to vote between 891 and 1052?
@rex these 2 would be nice for me thxxxxxx

I can sell you town on me. I’ve consistently provided justification for both my opinion and my reads, which, whilst it may have occasionally been somewhat far-reaching (as I realise in hindsight), a slightly far-reaching read is better than no read. In addition, I have answered (or will do so very shortly) every question that has been asked of me. This is always more towny than not doing so.
Every time someone has said my justification was not understandable, I have always written a more clear one.
If you wish to look at wagon composition, you will note that if there were 7 scum on the wagon, we would have lost. This may seem a trivial statement, but it is necessary fo further expansion. For if not everyone on the wagon is scum, we have determined there were town on the wagon. Again, trivial. We can also say there was at least one scum slot not on the wagon: the nomnom slot itself. Therefore, we can gather there was likely a maximum of 2 scum on the wagon. This means we can’t call anyone scum just for being on the wagon, as at least 5 of them were not. We can, perhaps, look at their wagon status in relation to their posts, but simply being on the wagon is not good enough justification for them being scum. As a result of that, any wagon - only justification against me - or anyone else - is unfounded.
Of course, after the second lynch, we have more information, and can therefore begin to judge people purely from wagon composition, but at this stage, we may not.

PEdit: my original post deleted, please wait a few minutes and I’ll have every other question answered.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:11 pm**

sausage shows up just as I'm passing out 0.o

wiped out from boon wars and the guy I actually want to spew starts saying stuff

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:13 pm**

I’m also not gonna lynch a claimed PR, so stop trying to lynch Gjt. If they’re scum, they don’t end game anyways

I would HAPPILY be vigged after taking out scum Ank.

I’m 1-shot BP, though. I tried getting shot last night when I claimed strong PR.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:14 pm**

In post 1162, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1155, Mislim Bait wrote:
In post 1149, Ankamius wrote:if it helps

I'm blake
oh hey
Explain why gbt is scum so I'll have a valid reason to vote my counter wagon

In post 1110, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1109, bob3141 wrote:
In post 1094, Ankamius wrote:VOTE: Gjt

I'm over the day, let's just end it

What leaves you certain enough that gjt is scum that you are happy to risk lynching a potential town pr. Do you beleive his pr claim or think that its fiction?

Or is it more of case you rather have lynch on another player. As you were voting kanna before you vote. A player on the same wagon as you now that you highlighted in red along side gjt and Nicholai.
1. general scumread
2. a lot of the game is a townread
3. the way he softed looks like scum trying to save themselves rather than a town pr trying to save themselves

Oozing scum.

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