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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:06 pm
by petapan
In post 1891, DrippingGoofball wrote:Can someone point out to me any discussion of things that can be alignment indicative in the past couple of pages?
do you mind explaining at some point why you're scumreading me less?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:09 pm
by Syryana
skitter30 wrote:that's fine
i just really don't like the implication that i may have hammered a newbie to influence this game, that would be really slimy :/
No such implication was intended; again I apologize if it came off that way.
skitter30 wrote:
In post 1896, Syryana wrote:As for that, I like how you keep questioning your reads and re-evaluating in this game. Reminds me a lot of your town-game in the newbie!
and i dont' think u should be townreading me here off of the newbie, which is why i'm kinda like ????
I don't really know how to explain this but I'll give it a shot; you're right, there's no specific thing you did in the newbie that really parallels to this game, but playing with you in the newbie I created sort of a mental model for what I think town!skitter's mindset is, and I haven't seen anything from you here to make me doubt the efficacy of the model.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:12 pm
by petapan
In post 1786, Cabd wrote:So this gets to be cobra kai carry with a side dish of Cabd. Pairs well after a main course of Cabd carry with a side dish of cobraleaf.
raising my eyebrow at this post (the creepy avatar does not help)
In post 1790, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1783, Prism wrote:ffery/skitter can you lay out those townreads on peta minus his the state of the union address

address its value as needed but anything else
honestly it was very much just that one post, it resonated with me v strongly
i thought this was weird, but
In post 1798, skitter30 wrote:i feel like this is a p fucky gamestate
scum!cabd can make it loads worse by doing that
scum!peta can make it loads worse by encouraging/forcing the prims/bork thing

i think that people *not* doing those sorts of things is +town cuz if i were scum i would absolutely be trying to take advantage of those things to make the game more of a bog than it is
In post 1799, skitter30 wrote:and i'm kinda assuming any competent scum with enough pull in the gamestate would
yes, okay, that makes sense

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:19 pm
by petapan
In post 1901, Syryana wrote:I don't really know how to explain this but I'll give it a shot; you're right, there's no specific thing you did in the newbie that really parallels to this game, but playing with you in the newbie I created sort of a mental model for what I think town!skitter's mindset is, and I haven't seen anything from you here to make me doubt the efficacy of the model.
okay, but why would that make you believe this is not her scumgame? i have no picture in my mind of what it would be like, but by reputation it's good. i would expect her play to look similar. that seems like a very lax read. (i fucking hated when people would read me off reputation but it's better to err on the side of caution)

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:23 pm
by petapan
In post 1804, Prism wrote:
In post 1798, skitter30 wrote:scum!peta can make it loads worse by encouraging/forcing the prims/bork thing
I think this is really stopping at the first level and not really taking into account that every scum player at this table is thinking at least 2-3 moves deep. He also doesn't have to encourage it at all to keep it in place.

He's avoided convincing me bork is town and has not even tried to actually check into my read before making that longwinded appeal.

Both suggest to me that he's probably just scum.
talk to me, fucker

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:24 pm
by notscience
In post 1899, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1896, Syryana wrote:As for that, I like how you keep questioning your reads and re-evaluating in this game. Reminds me a lot of your town-game in the newbie!
and i dont' think u should be townreading me here off of the newbie, which is why i'm kinda like ????
This is an interesting post

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:34 pm
by fferyllt
In post 1783, Prism wrote:ffery/skitter can you lay out those townreads on peta minus his the state of the union address

address its value as needed but anything else
Not sure if you still need this, but here it is.
In post 865, petapan wrote:i think you're just jealous we don't have a complicated meta dance like the cool kids in this game
Not AI but I laughed when I reread this a couple days ago.
In post 865, petapan wrote:i think you're just jealous we don't have a complicated meta dance like the cool kids in this game
Don't know if it's usual for you, but I feel like there's definitely a dance happening here, it just doesn't seem to resolve.
In post 1075, petapan wrote:then try harder. the burden is on you to find me as town and not the other way around. i will not explain further.
I liked this. It's easy to post something like that as any alignment but I like it anyway.

Prism I feel like your reservations about peta are seeping into my impressions. :/
In post 1269, petapan wrote:
In post 1262, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:R u going to go after cabd peta?
i don't really expect most people here to make themselves obvious as scum but if they haven't made themselves i'll go after them especially if they're playing like they think they have a free pass
This I liked for reasons that are hard to words. Cabd and I have been joking about his hypothetical tickets to Day 3s since we un-retired this year. It's picking up on some of our shitposting, but Cabd HAS been playing like he has a free pass. Given my waffling he can't feel certain that he leaves day 1 with my endorsement. I don't think that's the import of peta's post, though. He's finding Cabd's play here lackluster compared to smokefilled and xenoblade. As he should.

and gave me thinking what I'm thinking vibes, though given my thoughts were there first, that's meh.

I liked . It is a sort of a from the trenches rallying post in a way, trying to center on what the struggles are likely to be in this game. This appears to be one of the cruxes of your scumread. Which makes me wonder if I have any business at all trying to read peta. On the other hand, I've been doing find reading town-peta all along since our first encounter.

And when Notsci reminded me of the Newbie game, I remember thinking that coming out so hard the way he did after night 1 in that game was maybe what he had to do given the circumstances, but the tone and the bite of the argumentation stuck out like something that didn't belong there.

I do expect that his scum game in general is considerably more subtle than that game. I may be riding for an eventual fall.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:36 pm
by fferyllt
There's a lot that happened while I was asleep and I see my name on quite a few posts. I'd rather do real time shit than go through all that and answer stuff, at least for now.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:37 pm
by Cabd
...you would?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:38 pm
by fferyllt
For now, yeah. Unless the thread's died down?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:38 pm
by notscience
I have to charge my phone because I let it die while I've been playing spider man.

I'll be back.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:38 pm
by notscience
(give me 15)

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:39 pm
by petapan
is it wrong that i feel that is the towniest post cabd has made this game

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:39 pm
by fferyllt
I mean I saw a bunch of stuff from notsci basically saying he wants to interact with me?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:41 pm
by notscience
Yes!

My girlfriend charged my phone for me.

I just know you’re struggling to sort through things and would like to help in any way possible.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:42 pm
by Cabd
...notsci went out of his way to expliclty generate data for YOUR consumption. And you want to leave it sit to play live.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:42 pm
by fferyllt
In post 1811, Prism wrote:Now he has two reasons to be mad at me if he's town FUCK
You're confusing me.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:42 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1900, petapan wrote:
In post 1891, DrippingGoofball wrote:Can someone point out to me any discussion of things that can be alignment indicative in the past couple of pages?
do you mind explaining at some point why you're scumreading me less?
Am I wrong? Should I scumread you more?

Are you asking because you're going to flip red and you want me to look extra bad?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:43 pm
by fferyllt
In post 1915, Cabd wrote:...notsci went out of his way to expliclty generate data for YOUR consumption. And you want to leave it sit to play live.
I lied. I'm going back through it anyway.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:44 pm
by notscience
DGB I think I’m townreading you the most I ever have this game and I’m concerned

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:44 pm
by notscience
Not that you’re scum.

That it’s all downhill from here.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:45 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1892, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:dgb are you able to follow any of this :3
No, you? Are we even supposed to?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:45 pm
by Syryana
In post 1903, petapan wrote:
In post 1901, Syryana wrote:I don't really know how to explain this but I'll give it a shot; you're right, there's no specific thing you did in the newbie that really parallels to this game, but playing with you in the newbie I created sort of a mental model for what I think town!skitter's mindset is, and I haven't seen anything from you here to make me doubt the efficacy of the model.
okay, but why would that make you believe this is not her scumgame? i have no picture in my mind of what it would be like, but by reputation it's good. i would expect her play to look similar. that seems like a very lax read. (i fucking hated when people would read me off reputation but it's better to err on the side of caution)
Really don't know what to tell you dude; it's how I feel and I'm apparently just shit when I don't have a neighborhood or a discord to lurk in

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:46 pm
by petapan
In post 1917, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1900, petapan wrote:
In post 1891, DrippingGoofball wrote:Can someone point out to me any discussion of things that can be alignment indicative in the past couple of pages?
do you mind explaining at some point why you're scumreading me less?
Am I wrong? Should I scumread you more?

Are you asking because you're going to flip red and you want me to look extra bad?
no i just want to understand why the read changed

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:47 pm
by petapan
In post 1916, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1811, Prism wrote:Now he has two reasons to be mad at me if he's town FUCK
You're confusing me.
don't worry about it