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In post 1898, DkKoba wrote:i kinda feel moz's play is like panicked scum here - trying to get the votes off partners, partner being elsa.

if moz were to flip scum we flip elsa right after.

im not crazy right? thats how it feels from my pov

There aren't any votes on Elsa?
I just cant see any motivation for scumElsa! for claiming like that. She was under no pressure, why bother?

Did we get a reason from Eso on why he was voting Elsa? And then why he voted me? (after I called him out for being scum?)

In post 1839, Not_Mafia wrote:Why would town have a role that's purely for PR hunting? It's a straight-up scum role and I look forward to hammering Cycling

why would scumAnya claim after Elsa?! Makes no sense, there was ZERO pressure on her. All it did was put a spotlight on her.

In post 1855, Elsa Jay wrote:

In post 1853, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You were E-1?

No thanks to NotMaf putting me there. You also would've hammered me if I didn't kindly ask Kitty to unvote me to be safe.

Hmm, I didnt realise Elsa was at E-1, bollocks.
That complicates things. I thought she had zero reason to claim like that, as scum.
But shit. Ah, man...

Still, she prob is town anyway.
But Kitty and Anya still town. Kitty was under very little pressure, she looked like "confused" town.
And I still cant see AnyaScum! pulling out such a ballsy counter claim to sink ElsaTown.

Also, what are the odds of scumElsa! being UNLUCKY enough to fakeclaim something that is pretty much in the game already? Fucking unlucky as scum lol Can't really see it.
Overall, although there is SLIGHTLY more reason for Elsa to fake claim than i thought -didn't realise Elsa at E-1-, I still believe the claim.

saying what me and norwegian are doing is purely setup speculation is a load of shit and blatant misrepresentation of what weve said
not to speak for norwegian but hes using the setup to support his reads (specifically on anya) and so am i

its mad picking on lhf vibes

In post 1866, Anya wrote:why is there so much resistance to norwegian when he's obvwolf i don't get it

fighting both wolves and town here

Happy with a Norwegian Elim.
I think we are all just processing the claims.
But when the dust settles, I think most people should see that all the claims are town, and P.O.E leaves us with Eso, Norwegian and NM. With Rather and UNowen being the outside chances.

In post 1869, UNOwen wrote:Don't agree at all with this Anya push from N_M/Norwegian.

Towniest thing you have said all game.

also townbinning anya and elsa here is the right call and trying to shade elsa purely because he claimed under duress is sus as fuck

In post 1871, UNOwen wrote:

In post 1870, Not_Mafia wrote: You don't see the difference between a role that find VTs and a role that finds PRs?

How is this a meaningful distinction?

It's NM realising he has to amp up their contributions, so set up spec ahoy lol

In post 1907, esotericzoomer wrote:trying to shade elsa purely because he claimed under duress is sus as fuck

Read what I said. Elsa is so likely town. What I didnt realise was that they were E-1 at the time. My bungle.
But I still dont think it makes much difference.They are town.
Thanks for the BS tho!

Idk what i’m at. But my role is 1-shot bodygard. And it’s one of the reasons i suspect in Elsa/Anya. There are simply too many PR claims for it all to be town.
I target Dkkoba last night. And i believe it should have been fairly obvious.

In post 1909, Rathe wrote:VOTE: norwegian

can u not be so rash like this and listen to ppl who are town asking u to like .. not

im sure u get what i mean

In post 1900, mozamis wrote:

In post 1898, DkKoba wrote:i kinda feel moz's play is like panicked scum here - trying to get the votes off partners, partner being elsa.

if moz were to flip scum we flip elsa right after.

im not crazy right? thats how it feels from my pov

There aren't any votes on Elsa?
I just cant see any motivation for scumElsa! for claiming like that. She was under no pressure, why bother?

elsa was literally at e-1 stop lying lol

In post 1910, mozamis wrote:

In post 1907, esotericzoomer wrote:trying to shade elsa purely because he claimed under duress is sus as fuck

Read what I said. Elsa is so likely town. What I didnt realise was that they were E-1 at the time. My bungle.
But I still dont think it makes much difference.They are town.
Thanks for the BS tho!

The weird part is I basically softed... Well more like confirmed I had a most likely inno on Owen. THEN everyone put me to E1 to get a full claim.

In post 1910, mozamis wrote:

In post 1907, esotericzoomer wrote:trying to shade elsa purely because he claimed under duress is sus as fuck

Read what I said. Elsa is so likely town. What I didnt realise was that they were E-1 at the time. My bungle.
But I still dont think it makes much difference.They are town.
Thanks for the BS tho!

thats purely setting up the bait for a later day

In post 1913, DkKoba wrote:

In post 1900, mozamis wrote:

In post 1898, DkKoba wrote:i kinda feel moz's play is like panicked scum here - trying to get the votes off partners, partner being elsa.

if moz were to flip scum we flip elsa right after.

im not crazy right? thats how it feels from my pov

There aren't any votes on Elsa?
I just cant see any motivation for scumElsa! for claiming like that. She was under no pressure, why bother?

elsa was literally at e-1 stop lying lol

If you wanna be specific I told everyone we shouldn't get Owen, you accused me of having a guilty, I then said I was more softing an inno. Then I tried to get outta claiming fully until you all forced me to claim at E-1. Then I was forced again to reveal the final Simple part of my role because Anya spoke up.

In post 1911, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Idk what i’m at. But my role is 1-shot bodygard. And it’s one of the reasons i suspect in Elsa/Anya. There are simply too many PR claims for it all to be town.
I target Dkkoba last night. And i believe it should have been fairly obvious.

Why would you use an 1-shot protective N1...

Great. If this is really our TP that was supposed to take the bullet for one of the PRs, it's wasted. I am probably fucked tonight. Or Elsa/Anya are.

Assuming it's real and not just a mafia opportunistically claiming a PR-- a PR that can't be used to protect someone so if a claimed PR dies he gets plausible deniability. This claim doesn't convince me.

i didnt wanna say it but if norwee is legit claim they are lying about the 1 shot and we shouldnt question the modifer on the claim

id have probably phrased it as odd night but yeah

Also i think Mozamis read progression have been awkward. They townread me earlier for just activity but now when lots of suspicion is on me they put me in their PoE. And since there’s no support for my preferred elim i’m going here for the time being.
VOTE: Mozamis

Anya is claimed scum

The VC probably already is at E-1. The fact NotMaf didn't hammer means it's his partner maybe. That would be a nice twist.

or hes genuinely trying thus he doesnt want to vote someone he doesnt scumread?