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In post 1735, Anya wrote:ok i'll claim i dunno exactly what it does but i'm a loyal messenger

you gotta stop with the obvious lies

In post 1900, Gypyx wrote:

In post 1735, Anya wrote:ok i'll claim i dunno exactly what it does but i'm a loyal messenger

you gotta stop with the obvious lies

Scum PT slip! PT slip!!

In post 1749, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1743, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1741, Anya wrote:i'm just a vanilla townie lol

OK, so based on your ISO + this recent stunt I want you limmed AND blacklisted.

(Warning moon logic)
I am thinking Anya might just be a loyal messenger but for scum.

If she was a town loyal messenger then she would want out’s elimination and be screaming so since out never (unless I missed it) claimed to get the thing that would supposedly prove her innocence.

I think scum have a traitor and Anya is a loyal messenger but for scum to find a traitor.
(End moon logic)

Regardless of the right/wrongness of the above I think Anya is scum and I don’t think she posts what she does as VT and if she does then wow.

too bad we litterally have public info of no traitors

i don't like you actually discussing seriously anya's things

The eternal dilemma of the chaotic... feed Auro coffee or attempt to calm him down...

In post 1901, Auro wrote:

In post 1900, Gypyx wrote:

In post 1735, Anya wrote:ok i'll claim i dunno exactly what it does but i'm a loyal messenger

you gotta stop with the obvious lies

Scum PT slip! PT slip!!

Just kidding

you gotta stop with the obvious shitposts

(irony)

In post 1902, Gypyx wrote:

In post 1749, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1743, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1741, Anya wrote:i'm just a vanilla townie lol

OK, so based on your ISO + this recent stunt I want you limmed AND blacklisted.

(Warning moon logic)
I am thinking Anya might just be a loyal messenger but for scum.

If she was a town loyal messenger then she would want out’s elimination and be screaming so since out never (unless I missed it) claimed to get the thing that would supposedly prove her innocence.

I think scum have a traitor and Anya is a loyal messenger but for scum to find a traitor.
(End moon logic)

Regardless of the right/wrongness of the above I think Anya is scum and I don’t think she posts what she does as VT and if she does then wow.

too bad we litterally have public info of no traitors

i don't like you actually discussing seriously anya's things

did... did you miss the part where Anya made a serious claim and outed a PR? Like I need to look at you anyway at some point from yesterdays flip

Scum loyal messenger who didn't really understand what "loyal" means, targeted people as usual both nights, and when they didn't go through, realized her mistake?
Hmm.

i have trouble beliving math actually bought that claim from anya not gonna lie

and like, why is he rushing on her now but when she litterally faked messages he didn't move a finger (grated yes he repped in, but cmon, like, he's caught up)

Flea, you think math's push is actually legit?

Given my familiarity with Math I do think it's legit; I still disagree that he should've claimed his full role but I'll pick that up post game. I'm definite on an Anya lim today, though.

In post 1905, Flea The Magician wrote:

In post 1902, Gypyx wrote:

In post 1749, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1743, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1741, Anya wrote:i'm just a vanilla townie lol

OK, so based on your ISO + this recent stunt I want you limmed AND blacklisted.

(Warning moon logic)
I am thinking Anya might just be a loyal messenger but for scum.

If she was a town loyal messenger then she would want out’s elimination and be screaming so since out never (unless I missed it) claimed to get the thing that would supposedly prove her innocence.

I think scum have a traitor and Anya is a loyal messenger but for scum to find a traitor.
(End moon logic)

Regardless of the right/wrongness of the above I think Anya is scum and I don’t think she posts what she does as VT and if she does then wow.

too bad we litterally have public info of no traitors

i don't like you actually discussing seriously anya's things

did... did you miss the part where Anya made a serious claim and outed a PR? Like I need to look at you anyway at some point from yesterdays flip

Anya's claim was the most OBVIOUS fake claim ever, and math instantly claiming is just super fake

he didn't even wait for worldER to like, say if he got a message

In post 1903, Flea The Magician wrote:The eternal dilemma of the chaotic... feed Auro coffee or attempt to calm him down...

I'm sigging this after the game

In post 1908, Auro wrote:Given my familiarity with Math I do think it's legit; I still disagree that he should've claimed his full role but I'll pick that up post game. I'm definite on an Anya lim today, though.

ah, could you develop? Especially why he claimed instantly

In post 1909, Gypyx wrote:Anya's claim was the most OBVIOUS fake claim ever

Why so? It was a really specific role... people don't fakeclaim "loyal messenger" for the lulz. o.o

In post 1820, T3 wrote:

In post 1819, tris wrote:

In post 1818, T3 wrote:if town thn we know 2 scum.

howww

Anya says she messaged OWER and mathblade. They both claim to have not received messages.

you do know anya fake claimed?
like, i have reasons to belive you're not telling what you really think right now?

I pushed Math on that a little and Math's argument was that the claim effectively represented a guilty (even accounting for the presence of a roleblocker, it may be argued that limming the guilty is the optimal move). Instead of waiting for the eventual wagon and blah he just sped up the process and claimed right there. This logic does check out unless you believe Anya's fakeclaim was "obviously a fakeclaim" but I doubt that.

In post 1912, Auro wrote:

In post 1909, Gypyx wrote:Anya's claim was the most OBVIOUS fake claim ever

Why so? It was a really specific role... people don't fakeclaim "loyal messenger" for the lulz. o.o

peoples don't claim mafia rolecop for the lulz, and yet

the way she presented it, like, that's not how you out two freaking guilties, and i don't see how it being specific changes anything

In post 1851, mozamis wrote:This isnt Almost's town game at all.
If it weren't for the "Anya debacle" I would say would string up Almost fairly soon.

that's very far from his scum game though

(or what i've seen of it)

In post 1914, Auro wrote:I pushed Math on that a little and Math's argument was that the claim effectively represented a guilty (even accounting for the presence of a roleblocker, it may be argued that limming the guilty is the optimal move). Instead of waiting for the eventual wagon and blah he just sped up the process and claimed right there. This logic does check out unless you believe Anya's fakeclaim was "obviously a fakeclaim" but I doubt that.

well yeah, that's where our views differ

i don't see how claiming 2-shot tracker actually changes anything from a town PoV? like, guilty's still on you

In post 1915, Gypyx wrote:peoples don't claim mafia rolecop for the lulz, and yet

People claim mafia rolecop for the lulz?
Okay, what are the possible serious reasons one would fakeclaim as mafia rolecop for?

In post 1917, Gypyx wrote:i don't see how claiming 2-shot tracker actually changes anything from a town PoV? like, guilty's still on you

It's not to anything per se but if it's eventually happening anyway, might as well do it, no?
[I disagree with that too, but I can definitely see how Math has that viewpoint]

In post 1918, Auro wrote:

In post 1915, Gypyx wrote:peoples don't claim mafia rolecop for the lulz, and yet

People

don't

claim mafia rolecop for the lulz?
Okay, what are the possible serious reasons one would fakeclaim as mafia rolecop for?

my point is that anya also claimed that, before the mailman shitstorm

In post 1919, Auro wrote:

In post 1917, Gypyx wrote:i don't see how claiming 2-shot tracker actually changes anything from a town PoV? like, guilty's still on you

It's not to

change

anything per se but if it's eventually happening anyway, might as well do it, no?
[I disagree with that too, but I can definitely see how Math has that viewpoint]

i mean, yes, it's a potential viewpoint for town, but i'm way more confident in seeing this come from scum

Regarding Anya's fakeclaiming antics: sure, but reading that as an obvious fakeclaim doesn't mean a very specific "loyal messenger" claim under pressure has to be obviously fake, too.

Do you think there's other AI content from Mathblade?

In post 1922, Auro wrote:Regarding Anya's fakeclaiming antics: sure, but reading that as an obvious fakeclaim doesn't mean a very specific "loyal messenger" claim under pressure has to be obviously fake, too.

Do you think there's other AI content from Mathblade?

well idk, don't really know how to put it to words, but the way he did it, just feels wrong you know? and like, btw i'd like you to precise your stance, do you think the claim is town indicative or NAI?

i'll need to re-read what math did, but not in the best condition to do it right now, will probably be this night

In post 1907, Gypyx wrote:i have trouble beliving math actually bought that claim from anya not gonna lie

and like, why is he rushing on her now but when she litterally faked messages he didn't move a finger (grated yes he repped in, but cmon, like, he's caught up)

Flea, you think math's push is actually legit?

Yeah I do, Math town told BIG in his reaction. to the claim, speaking of...

In post 1909, Gypyx wrote:

In post 1905, Flea The Magician wrote:

In post 1902, Gypyx wrote:

In post 1749, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1743, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1741, Anya wrote:i'm just a vanilla townie lol

OK, so based on your ISO + this recent stunt I want you limmed AND blacklisted.

(Warning moon logic)
I am thinking Anya might just be a loyal messenger but for scum.

If she was a town loyal messenger then she would want out’s elimination and be screaming so since out never (unless I missed it) claimed to get the thing that would supposedly prove her innocence.

I think scum have a traitor and Anya is a loyal messenger but for scum to find a traitor.
(End moon logic)

Regardless of the right/wrongness of the above I think Anya is scum and I don’t think she posts what she does as VT and if she does then wow.

too bad we litterally have public info of no traitors

i don't like you actually discussing seriously anya's things

did... did you miss the part where Anya made a serious claim and outed a PR? Like I need to look at you anyway at some point from yesterdays flip

Anya's claim was the most OBVIOUS fake claim ever, and math instantly claiming is just super fake

he didn't even wait for worldER to like, say if he got a message

Because the options were lie and say you got a message, which would've been revealed to be BS, or tell the truth which with that claim implies a mechanical guilty.
It wasnt an obvious fake claim, if it was, there would be more weirdness about it, but no. "Loyal Messenger" who has send 2 messages and neither recipient has got one.

Math responded exactly has he should have, and then Anya revealed it was a fake claim. This feels like you got your chainsaw out.

In post 1910, Auro wrote:

In post 1903, Flea The Magician wrote:The eternal dilemma of the chaotic... feed Auro coffee or attempt to calm him down...

I'm sigging this after the game