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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:02 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1785, nomnomnom wrote: In post 1784, Gamma Emerald wrote:I checked the activity overview and it seems like the Feys' activity has fallen off a little. Not sure what to make of that yet.
I noticed that as well.
Was thinking of voting there earlier for that reason.
Why are so many people suddenly being scummy? :/
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:05 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1790, House wrote: In post 1788, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1786, House wrote: In post 1784, Gamma Emerald wrote:I checked the activity overview and it seems like the Feys' activity has fallen off a little. Not sure what to make of that yet.
If you want to go down that road, I'll fabricate a case against you out of thin air and throw the great wallpost of China at you.
You know I can do it. You've seen it happen.
I'm sorry what? Why the sudden reaction? I don't get why me pointing out the activity situation -> you pushing me.
There's plenty of other trails to follow before sniffing out activity issues.
The Feys will keep. If it continues onto D2, sure... I can see a little impatience.
Everybody deserves a little time now and then. That's why I'm not pushing up on Titus, right now.
@nsg this is one of the reasons I’m not vibing with your reads, unless you’ve changed your read here?
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:06 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1791, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay
but like, I was just vocalizing something. Both heads of that hydra are generally active players, so seeing 0 posts for almost a day atp is intriguing. I think an explanation probably exists, I just don't want to ignore it rn
It’s the weekend. I was sleeping. People actually have lives outside of stupid mafia games.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:07 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1899, Mia and Maya Fey wrote: In post 1784, Gamma Emerald wrote:I checked the activity overview and it seems like the Feys' activity has fallen off a little. Not sure what to make of that yet.
I’ve been sleeping most of the day. :/. As someone who I believe threatened to “end” a player in a past game for what you correctly read as a bs activity read (my words), I’m surprised you’d even bring something like that up.
I saw something and felt like I should speak up. I was not attempting to insinuate anything with it.
But you have a point about my past experience with such things. Sorry.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:08 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1797, nomnomnom wrote: In post 1795, House wrote:Overall, I think people who are posting but fall in the consensus null range are far more deserving of a wagon
A lot of people think i'm town though
I did until you brought up the activity thing.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:14 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1810, Moongrass wrote:I think both those groups are aligned, with nm/fey being less strongly aligned. So either TvT or SvS like:
Jjh
Mastina
House
Gamma
Cyrus
FMFT
Titus
NK15
Nom
Not mafia
Feys
Or the inverse:
Not mafia
Feys
NK15
House
Gamma
Cyrus
FMFT
Titus
Nom
Jjh
Mastina
I disagree with this. I made that incorrect assumption in a recent game and that resulted in my miseliming a slot because I thought scum was hard defending them.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:16 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1820, Moongrass wrote: In post 1816, Titus wrote:
There's no point in playing to mastina. It's an empty slot, even more so than me.
Well in hindsight yeah, but if you rolled scum you're going to play your towny butt off out of the gate if you know mastina/nsg are town in the game. Which jjh did. How would a scum jjh know that mastina was going to be largely absent?
Mastina isn’t a stump here.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:17 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:19 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Reading it again 1820 is a dumpster fire of dissonance and assumptions
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:20 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1833, Mia and Maya Fey wrote: In post 1807, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1770, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1697, Moongrass wrote:I think there's clearly a split in the game with jjh mastina on one side and Fey nm on the other. If both groups are town then the game gets tricky.
this is very interesting, talk about this more
In post 1772, Gamma Emerald wrote:like, if you're right about that, it may change both how I view you and whatever slots are attached to that gamestate read
In post 1783, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1697, Moongrass wrote:I think there's clearly a split in the game with jjh mastina on one side and Fey nm on the other. If both groups are town then the game gets tricky.
okay, so I've seen a post like this in a kinda-recent game, and before I can make a fair comparison I need your judgement on where you think scum is in this dichotomy. I don't need exact names, just how much in each side.
Essentially, out of jjh+mastina and Feys+NM, I want to know how many scum you think are in each atm.
this is a garbage post
Why? The activity thing I get but it’s Moon’s post you should be sus of in this case, no?
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:22 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1836, Mia and Maya Fey wrote: In post 1786, House wrote: In post 1784, Gamma Emerald wrote:I checked the activity overview and it seems like the Feys' activity has fallen off a little. Not sure what to make of that yet.
If you want to go down that road, I'll fabricate a case against you out of thin air and throw the great wallpost of China at you.
You know I can do it. You've seen it happen.
this is overkill
But he’s making the game fun and after the nsg/Norwee thing, fun is good.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:23 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1837, Mia and Maya Fey wrote: In post 1785, nomnomnom wrote: In post 1784, Gamma Emerald wrote:I checked the activity overview and it seems like the Feys' activity has fallen off a little. Not sure what to make of that yet.
I noticed that as well.
Was thinking of voting there earlier for that reason.
In post 1784, Gamma Emerald wrote:I checked the activity overview and it seems like the Feys' activity has fallen off a little. Not sure what to make of that yet.
1 scum between this garbage
It’s definitely a shit take regardless.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:24 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1838, Mia and Maya Fey wrote: In post 1721, nomnomnom wrote: In post 1717, Moongrass wrote:If nom is scum then it's likely NK15 is scum because his segway into my wagon seemed to heat up around that time, right?
In post 1719, Moongrass wrote:Nsg that's where you ignore the other person. We all know you're great, can you please redirect onto if my wagon was a counter and what nom scum means for NK?
VOTE: Moongrass
Maybe I was just right on my first read.
I believe you're just throwing stuff on a wall and seeing what sticks considering this is a completely illogical thing to think.
I think you might be the type of scum who is honest to a fault.
VOTE: nomnomnom
I actually don’t know who to vote for now, probably better on who I don’t.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:28 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1847, nomnomnom wrote: In post 1402, Mia and Maya Fey wrote: In post 1354, nomnomnom wrote:Okay Cyrus is 100% town.
There is absolutely no way scum!cyrus makes this kind of confrontational post from the get go.
scum!cyrus from my experience is also someone who is entirely focused on themselves in a game and will largely talk about why a player is voting them etc, for that reason, this kind of post is massive +town for cyrus
Fairly sure about this.
In post 1355, nomnomnom wrote:I'll defend this tooth and nail considering cyrus is hard mislimbait material
These series of posts tend express a townie mindset, more often than not. Do you not agree with this? @Moon
What happened to this?
You wanting to vote us for activity put a dent in that. Not that I’ve done a 180 but that didn’t help. Also the Tea vote seemed to come out of nowhere. I haven’t liked yours, moon’s or gamma’s recent posts, jjh has actually gone up but I’m still paranoid. Everything else is the same.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:31 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1857, Titus wrote: In post 1763, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1645, Moongrass wrote:VOTE: FMFT
Not mafia
Nom
House
Gamma
Cyrus
Feys
Titus
NK15
FMFT
Jjh
Mastina
Firstly, how'd nom jump to the top this time? This is the second time one of your prior suspects has moved to the very top. I also noticed this post:
around the time of your previous readlist. I don't feel like this makes sense with the fact you had jjh and cyrus as confident townreads at that time? The logical explanations for this post existing are questioning cyrus or considering voting jjh, neither of which matches with the stated reads at that time.
I disagree with the second part, but this is a towny post.
Who do you think is scum?
One thing I’ll say for Gamma is a lack of an agenda but the activity definitely pings me.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:33 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1852, northsidegal wrote:for the record, i don't really tend to do that intentionally, it just could be said to still be playing effectively.
Assuming Nom is scum and you didn’t just open the floodgates for all mafia to pile on a Nom wagon.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:33 pm
by Gamma Emerald
do you mean my activity or my poking yours
if the former then you've got a LOT of explaining to do/
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:35 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 1863, Not Known 15 wrote: In post 1847, nomnomnom wrote: In post 1402, Mia and Maya Fey wrote: In post 1354, nomnomnom wrote:Okay Cyrus is 100% town.
There is absolutely no way scum!cyrus makes this kind of confrontational post from the get go.
scum!cyrus from my experience is also someone who is entirely focused on themselves in a game and will largely talk about why a player is voting them etc, for that reason, this kind of post is massive +town for cyrus
Fairly sure about this.
In post 1355, nomnomnom wrote:I'll defend this tooth and nail considering cyrus is hard mislimbait material
These series of posts tend express a townie mindset, more often than not. Do you not agree with this? @Moon
What happened to this?
Yeah good point...
VOTE: Mia and Maya Fey
VOTE: NK15
Cool, I was really struggling with this.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:37 pm
by northsidegal
In post 1915, NorwegianboyEE wrote: In post 1852, northsidegal wrote:for the record, i don't really tend to do that intentionally, it just could be said to still be playing effectively.
Assuming Nom is scum and you didn’t just open the floodgates for all mafia to pile on a Nom wagon.
the point that i was making in the general sense, not specifically as regards this game or as regards nom.
also, what you're saying would be applicable to any scumread that i made with any degree of explanation behind it. i don't understand what point you're really trying to make, so it seems more that you're just trying to take jabs at me.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:38 pm
by Mia and Maya Fey
Pretty much I think, why?
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:49 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1883, Mia and Maya Fey wrote: In post 1691, NorwegianboyEE wrote: In post 1684, northsidegal wrote: In post 1680, NorwegianboyEE wrote: In post 1667, northsidegal wrote:or i would just never so confidently declare that i'm playing my town game. furthermore, there have been games where i've made almost exactly the same comment as town: that i am unambiguously playing my towngame and that other people in the playerlist who know me should recognize this and would never vote for me.
Then i think your scumgame is just really low. As i’ve identified slots that are strong townplayers and confidently sure they would correctly townread me and done what i can to pocket them by saying: "this is obviously my towngame" when i am scum, and it’s worked like an charm. What makes JJ and i uncapable of something you cannot?
almost nothing in mafia is about whether or not something is capable of something, it's about the probabilities. the
probability
that
any
town player with somewhat distinct towngames and scumgames would make a comment like that is—in my estimation—low, for the reasons that i said there. thus, i consider it town-indicative. you aren't the same kind of player as jjh is or as i am, so i wouldn't apply the same analysis to you that i would to him. just the same way i said that moon shouldn't apply the same analysis she would to scum!RC to jjh.
And this is exactly why scum would do so. Every good scumgame i've had i always try to do what i know people will think: "scum!Norwee would never do this".
I guess it makes sense for you to claim players are different, but in that case. Are you saying JJH has had the exact same playstyle in all his games up to now and never changed his strategies as scum?
Yeah nsg, that really isn’t a great argument. I am having more doubts but uh. I mean in uPick he was off the charts bleeding obvtown, so I would locktown him here if I saw that.
In a game just recently an quite good town player literally said i can’t be scum because i called another player that pushed me arrogant, and i: "only do that as town." And yeah, i was scum.
Did it intentionally too.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:52 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
"I will never be eliminated because NSG is in this game!" Is practically an example of the sort of WIFOMY statement scum!JJ makes if he knows he can’t obvtown as well as usual so he finds an overly dramatic and confident way of declaring himself town to pocket NSG and hopefully stay alive regardless of his play.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:53 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I'm a bit cheesed off by koba's drunken outburst (especially calling my post asking for details about moon's theory garbage, that felt really uncalled-for) so I'm wondering what amount of that is divergent from what koba had discussed with you prior
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:54 pm
by northsidegal
In post 1921, NorwegianboyEE wrote:"I will never be eliminated because NSG is in this game!" Is practically an example of the sort of WIFOMY statement scum!JJ makes if he knows he can’t obvtown as well as usual so he finds an overly dramatic and confident way of declaring himself town to pocket NSG and hopefully stay alive regardless of his play.
do you have some information regarding JJH specifically as a player to make the claim that that is the sort of statement that scum!JJH makes, or are you making this statement based on what you yourself would do and assuming that JJH would do the same thing?
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:56 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Imagine getting an answer to this.