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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:04 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1894, Tracer.Bullet wrote:Your scumread is based on generalities that are meaningless
And nah

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:04 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
Meaningless Deflection is a scum tell

I'm not talking about your vote I'm talking about your conviction level being mismatched with how much you are campaigning for the elim

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:04 pm
by Dwlee99
You want me to be super uber confident about a day one read without any flips jeez

This reminds me of something one sec

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:05 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
You claim Holiday is a scumread

You want Holiday dead

You tell people to hammer Holiday

You handwave her reaction and AtE and say it's faked without explaining what you find fake.

That's fine.

But you need CONVICTION to actually do it.

When challenged you pretend you don't actually have conviction on this elimination.

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:05 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
In post 1902, Dwlee99 wrote:You want me to be super uber confident about a day one read without any flips jeez

This reminds me of something one sec

Most people aren't confident.

That's why they don't hard push/campaign for certain elims.

It takes a certain level of conviction to go at her as hard as you are.

Doesn't make sense to me for you to do this if you're not sure she's scum.

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:07 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
In post 1902, Dwlee99 wrote:You want me to be super uber confident about a day one read without any flips jeez

This reminds me of something one sec

There's two explanations for hard-shoves D1:


Conviction in the result

and Agenda.

The fact you won't show conviction leads me to think you have an Agenda.

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:07 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 372, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: Regrider
Why would "waste your fudge roll" even be a reason to scumread someone
Just like, read my ISO from here. Include loftwing in it

Spoiler: regrider flipped scum

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:10 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 569, Dwlee99 wrote:Like here game is totally dead, I want a Regrider flip, we go into night and then come back tomorrow. That's what's going to help us here the most
In post 570, Loftwing wrote:
In post 567, Dwlee99 wrote:I have more posts than 9/12 of the other players. How tf am I absent here
You haven't intentionally gotten into the thick of an argument, you haven't been calling out things that you disagree with, you haven't tried playing the game until I dragged your unwilling ass into it.

Also, you like to airate your posts, shooting out short disconnected ideas, which would boost up your post count without actually having more substance than most players.
In post 572, Dwlee99 wrote:What arguments? All I've seen is boring mech discussion and Cyrus being Cyrus. Closest thing otherwise to an argument is explaining why a low poster who reacted badly to a simple push is likely to be scum and you thinking I'm scum for not having an essay level read on someone with 13 posts
In post 580, Dwlee99 wrote:Regrider please instead
In post 589, Loftwing wrote:
In post 572, Dwlee99 wrote:What arguments? All I've seen is boring mech discussion and Cyrus being Cyrus. Closest thing otherwise to an argument is explaining why a low poster who reacted badly to a simple push is likely to be scum and you thinking I'm scum for not having an essay level read on someone with 13 posts
I'm not expecting you to have omniscience of the game. I'm expecting you to put your thoughts out there into the game more than you have been. You've basically said nothing this entire game, and are now getting defensive that you've said nothing this entire game.
In post 578, Dwlee99 wrote:And funny enough, you gave me the same crap last time we played
In post 701, Loftwing wrote:.

Secondly, VOTE: Dwlee
I'm sure you're a perfectly healthy and mentally stable player, so why are you seemingly unwilling to give a reasonable response to Wake, rather than playing this weird "I'm not touching you" style game?
That I'm not being reasonable enough or giving enough reasons. And I was town and we ended up hard stomping scum in that game with my help.

So maybe this method of reading me based on me not having super deep reasons to scumread someone (with 13 posts btw) isn't effective?
As above, I'm not expecting you to have a deep read on someone. However, I would expect you to have it if you wanted them dead (which you very clearly seem to do). It is not my fault that you've shown that you want a player with 13 posts dead despite not having many good reasons for wanting them dead.
In post 590, Dwlee99 wrote:Loftwing I've explained the reasons. Idk what more you expect from me on a player with that little content
Here ya go, I even grabbed some of the conversation for you

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:12 pm
by Dwlee99
God it'll be so funny if Holiday flips scum

Especially if you're town

That's the funny thing when town pushes me cause I'm just like "yea idk this person kinda feels like scum" and then they flip red and they have to sit there for 48 hours like : upside down:

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:14 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
this is regrider's iso from that game:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

you're literally comparing an apple to a tree

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:15 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
Is this some kind of joke where you cherry pick shit from your past where you were right and expect me to do no DD and just nod and believe you.

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:17 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Wtf Dwlee.
Why are you using meta?

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:19 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
the team is probably just April/Dlee/T3

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:20 pm
by Dwlee99
THAT ISN'T META NORWEE I EXPECT BETTER FROM YOU

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:20 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1912, Tracer.Bullet wrote:the team is probably just April/Dlee/T3
Wow you're like, at best 1/3 on this

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:20 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Ur like: "check out this previous game as i liken it to this game for a point i’m making"

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:23 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1910, Tracer.Bullet wrote:Is this some kind of joke where you cherry pick shit from your past where you were right and expect me to do no DD and just nod and believe you.
I mean the situation is the same...

I'm like, yea, person scummy, let's just kill em

Then someone comes arguing with me for multiple pages about how I'm scum or something cause I should ~elaborate~ and ~explain~ more in depth

And then I just go "kill person" and if they flip red it'll REALLY be the same

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:24 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
In post 1916, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1910, Tracer.Bullet wrote:Is this some kind of joke where you cherry pick shit from your past where you were right and expect me to do no DD and just nod and believe you.
I mean the situation is the same...

I'm like, yea, person scummy, let's just kill em

Then someone comes arguing with me for multiple pages about how I'm scum or something cause I should ~elaborate~ and ~explain~ more in depth

And then I just go "kill person" and if they flip red it'll REALLY be the same
Ok so why you pretending you don't have conviction if you think Holiday will REALLY flip scum

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:24 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1915, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ur like: "check out this previous game as i liken it to this game for a point i’m making"
That's not meta though?

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:25 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1917, Tracer.Bullet wrote:
In post 1916, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1910, Tracer.Bullet wrote:Is this some kind of joke where you cherry pick shit from your past where you were right and expect me to do no DD and just nod and believe you.
I mean the situation is the same...

I'm like, yea, person scummy, let's just kill em

Then someone comes arguing with me for multiple pages about how I'm scum or something cause I should ~elaborate~ and ~explain~ more in depth

And then I just go "kill person" and if they flip red it'll REALLY be the same
Ok so why you pretending you don't have conviction if you think Holiday will REALLY flip scum
Where did I say that??

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:25 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
I already find your explanation of "it's my policy never to believe fakehammers" to be very hard to believe.


You're lucky I can't use site search right now to see what your fakehammer history is.

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:26 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
In post 1884, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1880, Tracer.Bullet wrote:How are you so sure Holiday flips scum here if you don't actually have time to play?
You're also way overplaying my confidence with this

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:34 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1920, Tracer.Bullet wrote:I already find your explanation of "it's my policy never to believe fakehammers" to be very hard to believe.


You're lucky I can't use site search right now to see what your fakehammer history is.
I will never clear someone off their reaction to a fake hammer. That's just terrible play

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:34 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1921, Tracer.Bullet wrote:
In post 1884, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1880, Tracer.Bullet wrote:How are you so sure Holiday flips scum here if you don't actually have time to play?
You're also way overplaying my confidence with this
This isn't me saying I "REALLY" thing holiday will flip scum soooo???

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:39 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Metagaming:
When game information outside of what is available in a game is used to give a player an advantage in-game.

Touche.