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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:25 pm
by RH9
I think that it is best to eliminate an inactive player over an active one.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:28 pm
by Firebringer
In post 1899, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, what do you think of Three's idea to eliminate an active player instead of an inactive one?
im fine with yeeting inactive players if i have no scumreads. Yeeting an active player just out of preference seems silly to me. If u have two players and u have no read on either and one is active and other isn't. I am going for inactive player, it at least encourages players to post more.

Though this is just personal pref and has nothing to do with alignment so kind of curious why u ask.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:32 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
When the gamestate isn't healthy, you take steps to make it healthy

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:35 pm
by Firebringer
Are u saying RH9 is creating convo to create a more healthy gamestate. Or u just making random comments

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:42 pm
by Enchant
It's sad, but... Yeah. We need to have some opinions about jester and "jesters".

Look at me for example, i can hide behind this charade (fun fact i not even trying to act like jester, it just happens me is, well, me) and you will do shit because of fear. Mafia probably not so obvious but still.

Jester too punishing. I find it's even more punishing than just instawinning game and closing it, when jester elimmed he creates different dimension and laughs on our suffering.


... And honestly if i was jester i would just try to draw NK, because pissing off mafia is funnier, even if it's not winning way.
Oh yeah, i am not supposed to say that because of rules, but thankfully i am not jester.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:43 pm
by Firebringer
honestly u don't have to pretend ur not the jester, we all already know ;)
U can help us win by voting out scum tho

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:44 pm
by Enchant
Ok

Who is mafia?

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:46 pm
by Firebringer
good question, right now im voting numberq i believe, that one has a 30-40% chance of being scum. If i had a better odds would be voting there but this is the kind of casino gambling we got to work with when i don't read full game.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:47 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 1901, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1899, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, what do you think of Three's idea to eliminate an active player instead of an inactive one?
im fine with yeeting inactive players if i have no scumreads. Yeeting an active player just out of preference seems silly to me. If u have two players and u have no read on either and one is active and other isn't. I am going for inactive player, it at least encourages players to post more.

Though this is just personal pref and has nothing to do with alignment so kind of curious why u ask.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:49 pm
by Firebringer
idk why but i feel like ur being a dick alyssa

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:50 pm
by RH9
In post 1901, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1899, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, what do you think of Three's idea to eliminate an active player instead of an inactive one?
im fine with yeeting inactive players if i have no scumreads. Yeeting an active player just out of preference seems silly to me. If u have two players and u have no read on either and one is active and other isn't. I am going for inactive player, it at least encourages players to post more.

Though this is just personal pref and has nothing to do with alignment so kind of curious why u ask.
Because Three seems hellbent on voting me over the inactive players.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:50 pm
by RH9
In post 1910, RH9 wrote:
In post 1901, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1899, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, what do you think of Three's idea to eliminate an active player instead of an inactive one?
im fine with yeeting inactive players if i have no scumreads. Yeeting an active player just out of preference seems silly to me. If u have two players and u have no read on either and one is active and other isn't. I am going for inactive player, it at least encourages players to post more.

Though this is just personal pref and has nothing to do with alignment so kind of curious why u ask.
Because Three seems hellbent on
eliminating
me over the inactive players.
EBWOP

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:53 pm
by Enchant
In post 1907, Firebringer wrote:good question, right now im voting numberq i believe, that one has a 30-40% chance of being scum. If i had a better odds would be voting there but this is the kind of casino gambling we got to work with when i don't read full game.
Where math comed from.

Can you give me full formula of mafia? You probably invented new algebra.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:54 pm
by Milk & Mocha
Noraa's almost done with her homework so it's about to get real

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:56 pm
by Firebringer
In post 1912, Enchant wrote:
In post 1907, Firebringer wrote:good question, right now im voting numberq i believe, that one has a 30-40% chance of being scum. If i had a better odds would be voting there but this is the kind of casino gambling we got to work with when i don't read full game.
Where math comed from.

Can you give me full formula of mafia? You probably invented new algebra.
the math comes from Bayesian Analysis ; very easy to replicate, basically u take a few assumptions run heuristic model and then check your work later. The percentages are low because of that "checking ur work" right now is limited. I haven't been able to determine if the model is accurate in this game with how i am using it.

Lets try it out, shall we?

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:57 pm
by Firebringer
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=13196469#p13196469]post 1913[/url], Milk & Mocha wrote:Noraa's almost done with her homework so it's about to get real
have u asked her if u guys will be bussing or not.

Btw, i don't believe she has homework, aren't like all students on break right now we just got out of christmas and i don't think school restarts till end of january. Is this school thing a lie

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:59 pm
by Enchant
Also.

Right now 12 ppl alive. 3 is scum, 1 is Jester, 1 is IC+i also know my role. It makes up possibility to elim mafia is 30% if exclude yourself and IC.

So yeah i achieved same chances without really doing anything.

Proscumreader, please bow.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:59 pm
by Three
In post 1899, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, what do you think of Three's idea to eliminate an active player instead of an inactive one?
RH9 is there any actual reason why you're choosing not to engage with me about my scum read on you?

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:02 pm
by RH9
In post 1917, Three wrote:
In post 1899, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, what do you think of Three's idea to eliminate an active player instead of an inactive one?
RH9 is there any actual reason why you're choosing not to engage with me about my scum read on you?
Well, how do I interact with the person who will one day be proved wrong? I dislike how hellbent you are on eliminating me. You're even ignoring the alternatives.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:03 pm
by Firebringer
In post 1917, Three wrote:
In post 1899, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, what do you think of Three's idea to eliminate an active player instead of an inactive one?
RH9 is there any actual reason why you're choosing not to engage with me about my scum read on you?
do i need to go back and find ur reason on pushing this person. Cause just this post tells me u don't believe in it.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:06 pm
by RH9
Firebringer, should I wait for Three to get over his confbias before continuing to interact with him? I'm worried that he's viewing everything that I say as 'another post from the person who I want eliminated' instead 'another post by RH9'.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:06 pm
by Three
In post 1918, RH9 wrote:
In post 1917, Three wrote:
In post 1899, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, what do you think of Three's idea to eliminate an active player instead of an inactive one?
RH9 is there any actual reason why you're choosing not to engage with me about my scum read on you?
Well, how do I interact with the person who will one day be proved wrong? I dislike how hellbent you are on eliminating me. You're even ignoring the alternatives.
You could respond to my read for starters. I changed my mind on M&M, there isn't any reason I can't change my mind on you.
In post 1919, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1917, Three wrote:
In post 1899, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, what do you think of Three's idea to eliminate an active player instead of an inactive one?
RH9 is there any actual reason why you're choosing not to engage with me about my scum read on you?
do i need to go back and find ur reason on pushing this person. Cause just this post tells me u don't believe in it.
Not sure what this means but the RH9 push is based on vibes + game state + the weird hedging around Q.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm
by Three
In post 1920, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, should I wait for Three to get over his confbias before continuing to interact with him? I'm worried that he's viewing everything that I say as 'another post from the person who I want eliminated' instead 'another post by RH9'.
What is the point of making posts like this?

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:09 pm
by RH9
OK. Three. What posts in particular made you scumread me?

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:10 pm
by Three
It's very disingenuous to act like I have some sort of confbias just because I'm pushing a scum read who's already a leading wagon.