In post 1788, Isis wrote:marcistar's treatment of the fruit slot has been super bizarre and makes me feel like she knows he's town
Can you elaborate on this point bc I don't get it
elaborated later if this is a post by post catchup
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:25 pm
by Isis
i actually like cakez page 76
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:27 pm
by Meuh
Yeah, I continue to just not get people's scumreads on Cakez
The unanimity on Gamma being scummy makes me uneasy but also is there really anyone scummier?
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:31 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1866, Pavowski wrote:1. The rise and fall of the Gamma wagon(s) yesterday
2. Generally pretty stingy with reads and info
3. Overreaction to Isis throwing a little shade to start d2
how am I being stingy? I've kinda wanted to do more but this game has felt kinda unpleasant to effort in
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:34 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1903, Titus wrote:Does Cakez sound upset at the number of TRs I have?
In post 1866, Pavowski wrote:1. The rise and fall of the Gamma wagon(s) yesterday
2. Generally pretty stingy with reads and info
3. Overreaction to Isis throwing a little shade to start d2
1. what about it is scum-indicative?
2. i do'nt think he's been stingy with his reads at all? can you elaborate on why/how you think this?
3. where do you think this is happening?
In post 1861, skitter30 wrote:@coral this post sums up wy i was sus of ari before
i'm not sure i still scumread her
Thanks!
Did new information change your read, or did you change your mind on your previous reasoning? Do you think the posts that stood out to me are ones that she would make as scum?
I am an alt, and I have some experience with some of the players in this game, including yourself :good:
kinda some of both
i think the whole duckie thing is lowkey not how i think she'd behave as scum
(i am susceptible to ate so idk maybe i'll change my mind on this soon)
i don't think she proxies her vote to me as scum
i do still kinda think her choice of wagon yesterday is a little scum-indicative, but i'm also not sure town-her has a better choice than beat
(and this kinda is the opposite of point 2 but somehow these make sense together ... >.>)
sorry this is kinda a jumble and i probably didn't explain this well but the net of all of this in my mind is that i don't want to vote her rn
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:41 pm
by skitter30
i'm still not vibing gamma-scum tbh
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:48 pm
by marcistar
everyones so stubborn
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:51 pm
by skitter30
marci why is gamma scum even?
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:03 pm
by Meuh
The way the game flowed from Gamma to Beat doesn’t give me the impression either of them were scum.
Like there probably were some scum who participated in that shift, but I think they mostly just didn’t care and just settled for a mislim on whoever townies were pointing at.
Gamma shouldn’t be limmed today imo
To me, if someone wants to make a case for Gamma scum, they also have to make a case for how the Gamma -> Beat change was influenced by ill-intentioned people.
Otherwise, the circumstances make Gamma being scum pretty unlikely in my eyes
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:18 pm
by Isis
In post 1906, Meuh wrote:Yeah, I continue to just not get people's scumreads on Cakez
The unanimity on Gamma being scummy makes me uneasy but also is there really anyone scummier?
I'm not fully convinced re:Ari & Skitter because I have a lot of respect for their game, but my gut feeling is we may be in a world where all of Ari/skitter/Isis are town all paranoia fighting each other, and meanwhile Beat just kinda comes in and posts a quiet vote on Ari while taking a very fence-sitty opinion on Gamma. I get a sense Beat doesn't want to look too bad from a GE townflip. Also, a few of the ways she's justified her reads have felt made up and reachy to me - claiming that Cakez ISO'd her? (571), strong townread on Pav, the idea that Meuh is "bloodthirsty" 845, none of it feels genuine to me. Also I TR Titus and Meuh and think it's a pure wagon so far
p-edit: lmao yeah I was definitely more the snarky one first in that interaction w/ Ari haha
In post 1282, Beat wrote:1. My ari scumread was addressed before the vote near start of day. It has grown since then.
2. I believe this is an accurate read on my position with the Gamma Wagon. I'm not convinced enough of GE being scum to vote there when we are so close to hammer. I also have other scumreads I'd like to address more. I am fence sitting on Gamma deliberately in a way (though i didnt think of it like this before)
(Additionally I dont think a GE flip gives us much info regardless of alignment)
My issue is more - if you don't think GE is a good flip and you're invested in an Ari scumread, why weren't you being more loud about it? 1051 isn't gonna motivate anyone to vote Ari, I'd expect town to be more vocal about steering the wagon away from Gamma if that's what you want. that's what I mean by "quiet", you were content to let a bunch of people argue with each other and Ari to hardpush Gamma while you just plopped a vote on her
it might be a playstyle thing because you've been kinda withdrawn throughout the whole game but especially at that particular juncture of the game it felt like you didn't actually care about the current momentum of Ari's Gamma push/wagon
In post 1503, Beat wrote:I mean my input this game has largely been ignored/ not engaged with except as reason to scumread me which doesn't incentivize me to be anything other than be withdrawn.
I both dislike this post and also dislike the fact that virtually everyone ignored it
which posts this game do you feel people have ignored as it relates to your Ari scumread? feel like I'm maybe repeating myself but I don't see how you could genuinely believe what you've posted regarding Ari in your ISO would convince somebody that they should be voting her alongside you.
In post 1603, GuiltyLion wrote:As we continue to approach deadline I'm gonna point out that Beat's last post was basically like "everyone ignores me so I'm not going to give content" and she has not substantively pushed her scumread Ari at all despite us being at the stage where we need to coalesce on a lim
Are these the posts of someone trying to solve the game? Or are these the posts of someone trying to follow active townies while giving off the impression of genuinely scumreading the same people as them.
Perhaps less thread activity from him is contributing to this feeling I have about GL; but he just does not seem to be genuinely scumhunting. He seems almost disconnected from the game in a sense. Without ever mentioning this being so. Shouldn’t have townbined him over like 1 good interaction with me
I’ve been feeling good about a lot of the players this game and I think he might be the person I’ve let get out of my sight too quickly.
This might be one of my “I think I’ve suddenly made a big realization about someone I’ve previously not scrutinized much and it’s completely wrong” moments which happen more often than they should.
Either way I wanna see where this goes. VOTE: GuiltyLion
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:26 pm
by Meuh
What if it’s like Titus/GL/Coral or something like that
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:27 pm
by Meuh
@Pavowski Are you a townie?
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:29 pm
by Meuh
Also for anyone struggling with telling me and Ari apart, I’m a rectangle and she’s a square. As long as you can remember that, you’re good