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In post 1924, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1922, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 1911, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1910, pirate mollie wrote:cos if he had offsite experience he would be using it to say "hey I am not a newb!" and he isn't.

And why do you rule out the possibility that he WANTS to be called newbtown because he's actually scum and that's why he doesn't say that?

i am guessing you mean this one.

you question doesn't even make sense

are you saying you think he has offsite experience yes or no

No I do not mean this one, mollie.
I mean what AP unvoting or not unvoting had to do with what we were discussing (the reaction test) when you brought it up, and how the hell does Venmar performing a reaction test bring attention on himself. Two things that make absolutely no sense yet you have still not explained them to me.
As for this question, it makes perfect sense. Why are you calling him a newbie instead of assuming that he is scum trying to act like a newbie?

yes. I have explained the ap unvote. you don't even remember cos you don't care what the answer is.

1. I have seen scum self-vote in untimed games before. they almost always unvote when a a couple of votes are placed on them. on this site it seems to be more of a town tell (re: polygamy). I say "almost" cos I could see it being a possibility but I think it is unlikely.
2. when you perform a reaction test it puts you as the center of attention. <-----this is not a hard concept to grasp. he would accountable for his actions and the reads that he generated. he would have to have a very good plan to allow for the progressions of his reads for the rest of the game. <---- I already explained this.
3. cos being a newb is NOT alignment indicative? I am town reading him because he feels town to me. his responses and the progression of his thoughts are natural and his thoughts have definitely matched my own.

so where did I fake anything as scum. you have not proven it wis. I have asked for proof and you have said that you gave it but you didn't and all you are doing is trying to paint me as scummy and it is not going to work.

quit dodging and put up or stfu

In post 1925, ffullisade wrote:

In post 1924, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1922, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 1911, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1910, pirate mollie wrote:cos if he had offsite experience he would be using it to say "hey I am not a newb!" and he isn't.

And why do you rule out the possibility that he WANTS to be called newbtown because he's actually scum and that's why he doesn't say that?

i am guessing you mean this one.

you question doesn't even make sense

are you saying you think he has offsite experience yes or no

No I do not mean this one, mollie.
I mean what AP unvoting or not unvoting had to do with what we were discussing (the reaction test) when you brought it up, and how the hell does Venmar performing a reaction test bring attention on himself. Two things that make absolutely no sense yet you have still not explained them to me.
As for this question, it makes perfect sense. Why are you calling him a newbie instead of assuming that he is scum trying to act like a newbie?

yes. I have explained the ap unvote. you don't even remember cos you don't care what the answer is.

1. I have seen scum self-vote in untimed games before. they almost always unvote when a a couple of votes are placed on them. on this site it seems to be more of a town tell (re: polygamy). I say "almost" cos I could see it being a possibility but I think it is unlikely.
2. when you perform a reaction test it puts you as the center of attention. <-----this is not a hard concept to grasp. he would accountable for his actions and the reads that he generated. he would have to have a very good plan to allow for the progressions of his reads for the rest of the game. <---- I already explained this.
3. cos being a newb is NOT alignment indicative? I am town reading him because he feels town to me. his responses and the progression of his thoughts are natural and his thoughts have definitely matched my own.

so where did I fake anything as scum. you have not proven it wis. I have asked for proof and you have said that you gave it but you didn't and all you are doing is trying to paint me as scummy and it is not going to work.

quit dodging and put up or stfu

that was me

In post 1925, ffullisade wrote:2. when you perform a reaction test it puts you as the center of attention. <-----this is not a hard concept to grasp. he would accountable for his actions and the reads that he generated. he would have to have a very good plan to allow for the progressions of his reads for the rest of the game. <---- I already explained this.

I thought that fake-hammering someone puts that someone in the center of attention, not the one who fake-hammered.

Also I answered you, if you don't read my posts it's not my fault.

In post 1925, ffullisade wrote:1. I have seen scum self-vote in untimed games before. they almost always unvote when a a couple of votes are placed on them. on this site it seems to be more of a town tell (re: polygamy). I say "almost" cos I could see it being a possibility but I think it is unlikely.

You were talking about this while we were discussing about AP's reaction to the fake-hammer. This had nothing to do with that discussion and it's a generalization anyway.
My point is you didn't involve yourself in the discussion about the fake-hammer, you said that you townread AP for something irrelevant.

that is not true and you know it

I do read your posts obviously cos I am responding

and you are fucking dismissing my reasons

I already had a town read on ap

20 bucks says you try to say that I never answered you 15 pages later. AGAIN.

In post 1929, pirate mollie wrote:20 bucks says you try to say that I never answered you 15 pages later. AGAIN.

Lets not break site rules even if this is clearly a joke.

Wisdom, if you are town you gotta stop using 'people see things differently than me' as a scumtell. Cause thats what your push on Mollie and qwints feels like.

That's not why I'm scumreading mollie; however I gotta admit she's getting townier.

In post 1930, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 1929, pirate mollie wrote:20 bucks says you try to say that I never answered you 15 pages later. AGAIN.

Lets not break site rules even if this is clearly a joke.

jesus christ

Was I being patronizing? Not my intent...But like I know 2 townies got themselves modkilled in the only other Mountainous I can think of for doing something similar :/
And ya I realize you were being sarcastic but some mods are unforgiving.

In post 1815, Grimgroove wrote:

In post 1814, Wisdom wrote:Because I know for a fact mollie is able to fake anything,

In post 1850, Wisdom wrote:I ask you to explain to me how the fuck using a reaction test brings attention on the one who is doing it (because that's fucking ridiculous)

You mean like challenging a team against the agreed-upon plan of the majority to test reactions of competing wagons?

Venmar and Amrun have disappeared. Amrun disappeared because her AtE failed to get the lynch off her. She is scum. Venmar disappeared because ???

In post 1934, Majiffy wrote:Venmar disappeared because ???

He said he'd be away for a day I think

In post 1816, Grimgroove wrote:The saddest thing about this is that I'm not even a teenager.

Wait what was the context of this oO

In post 1818, enomis wrote:Alright i am not getting anything.

Main thing i got:
Grim X Amrun not scum team.

Can we PLEASE lynch this?

-Lurking like fuck but shows up when people ring the bell
-Fake wall posts formatted to look 'genuine' intentionally
-Incredibly shallow attempts to scumhunt
-Apologizing for own play offhandedly

In post 1936, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1934, Majiffy wrote:Venmar disappeared because ???

He said he'd be away for a day I think

Ok well

In post 1797, Grimgroove wrote:BTW, does anyone have ANY idea what that was all about?
None of the people actually responded to the question, but the question in itself, come on...

In post 1671, Amrun wrote:

In post 1669, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 1668, Amrun wrote:Once again... you cannot lynch wisdom today.

...

What if I try really really hard?

Even then.

What is your opinion on 2-scum teams?

In post 1672, Amrun wrote:Same question to mollie. What is your opinion on 2-scum teams?

I mean, even if you are seriously wondering about this question, it suffices to look at the moderator's opening posts.

Am I the only one who think Amrun is consciously trying to play stupid here? And this is already the second time in this topic when the game set-up is considered.

What the fuck are you talking about? The opening post doesn't say anything about how many scum are on each team, and it's something people have speculated on in the past. I want to know those people's opinions on it specifically, but they fucking ignored me as usual.

In post 1827, enomis wrote:ermmm. No.

@Amrun: Why did you exclude Elyse when speaking with me about who to lynch and who are we lynching and stuff. Feels like you taken her out of your mind of lynchpool completely until much later when you mention her.
Why is that?

Because I've had a townread on Elyse forever. She exists in the lynchpool because she does, but I've never once wanted to lynch her.

In post 1835, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1833, AngryPidgeon wrote:Wisdom, cut the bullshit. If you are seriously lynching Amrun on the off chance that the team is explicitly Me/Her/Elyse then WTF?

I'm lynching Amrun because she's very likely scum. Nothing to do with who her buddies could be. And as I said, even if she's town we can probably gain some information from the pushes on her etc.

Actually, you've spent a lot of time describing how I'm NOT very likely scum, because I don't make sense in any reasonable scumteam. Possible partners DO matter. It's not an end-all be-all, and don't let one little thing rule out a whole scumteam (I've been ruined by this, famously), but don't not take those things into account and let yourself tunnel on someone because you don't like their playstyle. This won't mean anything to you until I have flipped, of course, but remember it then.

In post 1844, pirate mollie wrote:the amount of fucking misrep in this game is seriously pissing me off.

show me in what way my activity has been low ap. put up or shut the fuck up you ass cos I am pretty sure I am one of the top posters and have definitely posted more than you.

amrun were you seriously trying to say last night that hedging your bets does not apply to mafia? you have misrepped the fuck out of me this entire game you have not said a truthful about me or my play at all. it is misrep after misrep and when I call you on it you fucking prevaricate. I said I was not comfortable as I want to be with majiffy cos we have not talked much and his activity is low. then you actually have the balls to aTe all over majiffy about how his head is not in the game and try to say that I scumread him which I fucking did not.

In post 1761, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1758, Grimgroove wrote:Mollie is town, her posts are of such a genuinity (guinineness?) that they cannot be faked. It is impossible to do.

yeah no. Go read some of her games before saying such crap.

yeah go read my games when I am scum plz do. pretty plz with sugar on top. cos you will see that this is in no way shape or form my scum game.

you are lying my meta wisdom and you are pretty stupid for doing it cos is right there in my wiki and all anyone has to do is do a meta check to know that you are lying. you are also using the same intimidation and douchey tactics that you used on mara in polygamy. you are scum.[/quote]

a) AP has twice as many posts as you and they are NOT spam. It's pretty shitty of you to say so, in fact, and in my opinion you owe him an apology. You are not the highest poster in this game, and trying to say you are is fairly silly and ridiculous. You're not a lurker, though; it isn't your fault this game moves so fast. You have ~20% of the posts in this game, ftr.

b) No, I said hedging your bets does not apply to mafia in the way you were attempting to apply it. Plus, I did not say you were "hedging your bets" with NS. That is something you started saying, not me. I said you AVOIDED GIVING A READ ON HIM ENTIRELY, which you DID. You mentioned him ONCE to call him a lurker, until after he flipped.

c) You're still avoiding about 10 questions I have asked you.

In post 1845, Grimgroove wrote:

In post 1842, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 1762, Grimgroove wrote:Amrun is far more important, if only for my self-preservation.

If Amrun is still there the next daystage, I will challenge her myself.

Oh god this just gives me all sorts of chills. An Amrun scumflip does not conf-town you by any stretch of the imagination and Im not sure why you would think it does.

Maybe I don't think it does, and maybe I'm trying to implant this idea into your subconscious, rendering you powerless in the face of my evil manipulative skills!

HAHAHAHAHA.

no

It is so, because it is Obvious.

Hey Amrun, will you challenge me if you're still around for the next daystage?

Calling you out, yo!

Of course I will, and gladly. Idk why you act like I wouldn't. Ridic.

Also, you being a newb doesn't make you town, and it never will. You are recycling the argument I made against Majiffy early on, but without any of the context that made it make sense.

In post 1877, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 1855, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 1844, pirate mollie wrote:definitely posted more than you.

AngryPidgeon Jun 28, 11:33pm Jul 12, 10:16am 0 days 0 hours

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pirate mollie Jun 28, 11:55pm Jul 12, 10:29am 0 days 0 hours

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While complaining about blatant misreps, how ironic.

90% of your posts are spam posts that is not the same thing and you know it

This is something you owe an apology to AP for, as I mentioned before. AP hasn't been spam posting -- but THIS post, yes, that's a rude spam post. Discrediting him for no reason does not make you look town, ps.

In post 1934, Majiffy wrote:

In post 1815, Grimgroove wrote:

In post 1814, Wisdom wrote:Because I know for a fact mollie is able to fake anything,

In post 1850, Wisdom wrote:I ask you to explain to me how the fuck using a reaction test brings attention on the one who is doing it (because that's fucking ridiculous)

You mean like challenging a team against the agreed-upon plan of the majority to test reactions of competing wagons?

Venmar and Amrun have disappeared. Amrun disappeared because her AtE failed to get the lynch off her. She is scum. Venmar disappeared because ???

LOL. I was gone for what, 12 hours? I posted NOWHERE ELSE on site, and am v/la today, as EVERY weekend. No posting on site for 12 hours!! It's because of this one game, obviously!

Check yourself.

I am fucking disappointed in you all that I'm not dead. Ugh.

Amrun it's a 4 scum team and there is the possibility of 2 scum being on the same color team or the possibility of them not, it is open-ended in that respect.

I know that. I was asking those specific people for their opinions on the likelihood of one team having 2 scum on it.

Lol I'm not going to read like 11 pages. I lost internet for like 2 days.

1) 11 pages isn't much.
2) They're kind of required reading.

In post 1942, Amrun wrote:I know that. I was asking those specific people for their opinions on the likelihood of one team having 2 scum on it.

What will that accomplish?

In post 1940, Amrun wrote:Actually, you've spent a lot of time describing how I'm NOT very likely scum, because I don't make sense in any reasonable scumteam. Possible partners DO matter. It's not an end-all be-all, and don't let one little thing rule out a whole scumteam (I've been ruined by this, famously), but don't not take those things into account and let yourself tunnel on someone because you don't like their playstyle. This won't mean anything to you until I have flipped, of course, but remember it then.

The fact you don't make sense with anyone does not mean you don't. It only means you have hided it well. That's why lynching people based on who makes sense with them is unwise.
And wtf are you talking about, I don't think I said anything about your playstyle.

My reads didn't change, Amrun lynch should go as planned, go go go

What are your reads on qwints and enomis?

In post 1947, Venmar wrote:My reads didn't change

- I actually used this way too loosely, I just meant to say that Amrun lynch should happen.

I'll need to think about my other reads and read some, it's currently 11:40pm here so i'm going to sleep. Reads tomorrow.