Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[ActionDan]

Wait how many people have claimed herder?

[vezokpiraka]

Wait how many people have claimed herder?

Read the ducking thread.

[AngryPidgeon]

Only vezok afaik?

Pidgey is very probtown.

Townblock:
Thor, pidgey, bulba, Aegor, zdenek), molla, me. That's 7/22.
Probtown: PV , vezokpiraka (claim), dan (claim).
Mehtown: sven, nero, toogeloo, alpacasaur, rubicon.

Scum heap: RC, Chessball, mastin, sekai, gif, dopog, majiffy,

[Bulbazak]

AP, vote Sekai already!

[Majiffy]

Why the fuck is the Mastin wagon being dissolved for an RC wagon? His flail a few pages ago lacked any kind of town emotion.

@Zdenek - That's great and all, but why would I lie, re: my playstyle/thor's playstyle?

[AngryPidgeon]

Cause ffery is either scum or being a complete derp this game.

Has 3 scumreads.

One of them is mastin. Dissolves mastin CW whilst QQing about mastin.

One of them is Thor. Wants to talk to Thor in order to resolve this one.

Dear god.

[Bulbazak]

Cause ffery is either scum or being a complete derp this game.

She's not being a derp. Just help us lynch her already.

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote sekai

This is a good wagon.

[pidgey]

helo?

[Thor665]

Thor- Im sorry but i AM lazy and i have other stuff to catch up with, so can you explain what makes Vezok's claim more town than not?

Because it makes a lot of sense to me in the way Vezok designs the game, so I think the PR is totally legit. At that stage I can believe that scum possibly got that PR power wise...but on the flip side, it's a ruddy zombie, so that would mean that town would have to get that zombie with that power, and then scum get a human who can duplicate the power? Meh...or maybe it's a human who has that power and a zombie fakeclaim...meh... I have to squint a lot less to see it as a town role than a scum role, ergo it is more likely to be a town role.
Make sense?

Well...the first 63 come to mind as an example.

Generic complaining does not become you. I've posted, so you can use those actual posts as support for your claim. Please do so.

I wasn't talking posts, I was talking pages. Like, your contribution to the game thread in page 64+ is dramatically increased compared to you in 1-63, and anyone who thinks otherwise is insane, lying, or bad at reading the game.

Also, before day closes, I hope to have a better grasp of Thor's posting. I'm offput by his focus on the town nks and the way he's trying to shape the three submissions, but there are other things he's posted that I feel are kinda towny. Some distance and review may change that read.

Yes, how "off putting" that I'm actively willing to discuss my thoughts about who should be vigged. So, y'know, in *addition* to talking about lynches I'm actually actively forcing people to engage me about even more flip related discussion. How very strange of me. How very difficult to consider that scumhunting. How shocking and hard it is to deal with a player talking about which players he wants to kill...I mean, there is *nothing* there that is remotely similar to lynching and certainly the total lack of presented opinions on him leaves it a black hole, because Thor is just not talking about...stuff...it's off putting!

Vote: Sekai

He says him being dead is good for the town.
I figure if he's telling the truth, let's kill him, and if he's scum playing reverse psychology, let's kill him.

Mollie feels confident there's a difference in my town and scum play. Maybe you can find that key and apply it to Thor.

Mollie also claims to be able to read me...despite evidence to the contrary.

I think Mastin is townish.
Pidgey is obv. town.
I'm actually sheeping a Vezo vote...oh dear gawd.

[Thor665]

Nom-nom List

Action Dan *or* Sekai whichever doesn't get lynched.
Rubicon
_____________? (I'm sorta leaning Guy in Freezer at this stage, honestly. Thoughts?)

[Bulbazak]

Nom-nom List

Action Dan *or* Sekai whichever doesn't get lynched.
Rubicon
_____________? (I'm sorta leaning Guy in Freezer at this stage, honestly. Thoughts?)

Action Dan is a claimed PR
Rubicon I'm okay with
Sven?

[vezokpiraka]

Nom-nom List

Action Dan *or* Sekai whichever doesn't get lynched.
Rubicon
_____________? (I'm sorta leaning Guy in Freezer at this stage, honestly. Thoughts?)

Rubicon I'm ok with.
I'd rather not try to kill AD.
BBmola and Zdenek ?

[Aegor]

SCB

[Thor665]

Action Dan is a claimed PR
Rubicon I'm okay with
Sven?

1. Nah, he's a softclaimed PR, so who cares?
2. Huzzah.
3. I'm mildly town on him, plus he feels pretty active to want to eat over night.

Rubicon I'm ok with.
I'd rather not try to kill AD.
BBmola and Zdenek ?[/quote]
1. Huzzah
2. Good lord, why? He's a scumread for many and is posting nothing but mild defense and snarky attacks...oh, and a softclaim, because that's how town plays. Plus, y'know, alternate leading wagon.
3. Zdenek I think is town, I could go for BBMolla pretty easy.

SCB

Not against that either, and the surge seems to be rising on them.

Nom-nom list

1. Action Dan *or* Sekai
2. Rubicon
3. Chessball

BBMolla is in possible contention for that 3rd spot, so probably people should weigh in on their BBMolla/Chessball reads.

[PeregrineV]

Vote: RedCoyote

Don't see a sekai case, and most of her posts read town to me.

As for brain chomping?
Rubicon
Chessball
Alpacazard

But may also chomp Toog replacement. Toog was an early-expectation townread, and his replace out leaves a greater burden on his replacement.

[PeregrineV]

I wasn't talking posts, I was talking pages. Like, your contribution to the game thread in page 64+ is dramatically increased compared to you in 1-63, and anyone who thinks otherwise is insane, lying, or bad at reading the game.

I had 34 posts in pages 1-63, and 9 posts in the last 14 pages. That's about one every 2 pages or so.

As for reads, they've evolved somewhat, but none of them are strong.

In summary, I disagree.

[Bulbazak]

1. Nah, he's a softclaimed PR, so who cares?

He claimed Hunter.

BBMolla is in possible contention for that 3rd spot, so probably people should weigh in on their BBMolla/Chessball reads.

Molla is town. No clue on Chessball. I would not object to them dying.

[Zdenek]

I was keeping my end of the deal.

but you made that deal with your scum read.

I kinda hinted that my read on them was flipping by giving them a second chance.

What made it flip?

His AtE. If he was scum, he would've gone "oh cool you're just gonna regret it" kinda tone.

I find this sort of opinion very strange. I mean, it relies on thinking that notscience can't improve, and really incorporating appeals to emotion into one's scum game is not far-fetched.

[Zdenek]

@Zdenek - That's great and all, but why would I lie, re: my playstyle/thor's playstyle?

The appropriate response would have been to explain why you think that Thor is town and how that relates to your view that town-Thor is like town-Majiffy.

See, I don't think that you are lying about your playstyle/Thor's playstyle. I'm sure that's something you actually believe. It's the conclusion you've drawn from it - that Thor is town - that I have an issue with. I shouldn't have to write you an essay about why scum-Majiffy might want to town-read Thor.

[Zdenek]

Zdenek ?

LOL Vezzy LOL

[AngryPidgeon]

Have people started stealth-town-reading Majiffy or is he just slipping through the cracks?

Rubicon
ChessBall

seem universally solid.
RC? Majiffy? I wouldn't mind GIF, but he seems less of a read for most people.

[Thor665]

I had 34 posts in pages 1-63, and 9 posts in the last 14 pages. That's about one every 2 pages or so.

As for reads, they've evolved somewhat, but none of them are strong.

In summary, I disagree.

Oh, of course, because *number* of posts equates to the quality of posts.
^^^
Sarcasm

Vote: RedCoyote

Don't see a sekai case, and most of her posts read town to me.

As for brain chomping?
Rubicon
Chessball
Alpacazard

But may also chomp Toog replacement. Toog was an early-expectation townread, and his replace out leaves a greater burden on his replacement.

I did meta research to clear Alpaca pretty hard. Please either disprove my research or pay better attention to the thread. I strongly oppose that choice.

Whether or not you see Sekai, as a counter wagon why do you oppose the chomping?
I suppose we should actually do a three way with those, because if say the counter wagon flips scum we shouldn't munch on the alternate wagon, but that's about the only logic I see to opposing it.

[Aegor]

VOTE: Sekai

1. Nah, he's a softclaimed PR, so who cares?

He is a claimed PR, silly.

Nom-nom list

1. Action Dan *or* Sekai
2. Rubicon
3. Chessball

BBMolla is in possible contention for that 3rd spot, so probably people should weigh in on their BBMolla/Chessball reads.

My list:

SCB
Mastin
Sekai
RC
Vezok
BBMolla
PV

SCB is def going in the list; all others are negotiable.

[BBmolla]

Stop trying to vig me Thor, just nightkill me if you want me dead that bad, jesus