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I suspected, voted, and questioned Brantz maybe five days earlier in this phase...
I'm perfectly fine with switching my vote back to him.
We just need a lynch today.
VOTE: BRantz
To summarize my suspicion, it has to do with me not liking his scum reads, (which I only gained answers for after asking him), and it also might have something to do with him scum-reading me even after I claimed...
If the votes stack in his direction to quickly, we should probably wait for a claim. However, we are nearing the final days of this phase, so it'd be wise if we don't use up our time in fruitless endeavors. In other words, we should wait, but not to the last moment to decide.

p-edit, sorry host

Oh crap, I tied the votes.

is wondering why you had to pedit the mod post when it was an hour and a half before your 1926

thinking hard huh

VOTE: Drixx

Awesome. We're back here!

boon i s2g

↑ Cuttlefish wrote:

Vote Count 1.13

Drixx (6)

- Three-Pronged Trouser God, Toon Fighter, ActionDan, LucianRoy, Narninian, Jackel98

Jackel98 (4)

- Magua, vonflare, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx

BRantz (4)

- VysePresident, Marquis, Om of the Nom, Oranje Crush

ActionDan (2)

- ChriVi, PeregrineV

VysePresident (2)

- copper223, deathfisaro

vonflare (1)

- BRantz

Toon Fighter (1)

- BBmolla

deathfisaro (1)

- Pirate Ika

Marquis (1)

- Boonskiies

Not Voting (3)

: Titus, Ozgin, Lihin, Cerberus v666

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

↑ Om of the Nom wrote:ChriVi bro i used to love u so much but ur posts in the game make me sad as heck and i literally do not care for much of what you are saying as of late bc it is mostly setup spec and useless complaining garbage pls comment on what u think of ur neighbour and also get ur hecking bad votepark off dan and gimme ur reads on jackel and drixx and im praying to god that u r town like cerberus is saying but this iso of urs is so lackluster

Idgaf about the main wagons right now they're obviously scumwagons that are total shit; I don't see anything about Drixx or Jackel that stands out to me at the moment.

We've already said what we think of our neighbor, we have a pretty strong hard-on town read for them.

My drixx vote was really just a counterwagon to JAckel.

My drixx vote was really just a counterwagon to JAckel.

Also this is bbmolla's sexy town play last I checked; Not that there's any votes on him so let's keep it that way.

I don't like Marquis at all. Both on a playstyle and alignment level.

ActionDan is meh. Whatevz UNVOTE:

I don't understand copper and death's vote for VysePresident (I'm scumreading copper and death pretty fuckin hard, but not as hard as...)

BRantz needs to burn kthx VOTE: BRantz

Tempted to policy lynch or have vig shoot Trouser because of how utterly stupid and useless two of the heads have been and how the other has been semi-helpful at best.

Boonskiies I have no fucking clue what are you doing m8o

Hard scum-read on Pirate Ickie (plus one of my least favorite players is on there soooo I could be semi-biased but I don't like how they're staying so under the radar... Their town play from when I played with them was much more active than this.)

I don't like Magua or Bulbasaur... or vonflare for that matter. Not liking the Jackel wagon at all.

P-Edit: Oh good this is going somewhere

Like jesus we just ISO'd our neighbor and his words are like music to our ears, fucking wonderfully town. No cerebrus lynches kthx.

Also OM since when were we not useless shits D1? D1 is so silly and boring. You should know that if I manage to survive 'til D2 (which is never) that I actually become useful.

VOTE: BRantz
Read ISO, more scum than Drixx.

I'm willing to vote Brantz, mainly because I don't see anything that makes me think they're especially town, but I also don't see anything especially scum. I'll look back in context possibly, but either way I'd rather not vote/lynch them while they're VLA.

thank you.

and viomi i'll humor you because you're much more likely than not town: why are you scumreading me? does it still involve how you raged at me for "rolefishing" without reading or knowing my claim? :/

No nothing in BRantz's ISO looks particularly scummy to me, and in fact:

↑ BRantz wrote:You are the first person to ask me questions about my reads.

There is a lack of scum reads because I feel like a little over half of the players aren't even playing the game yet. I had completely forgotten that Jackal was even in this game, you have people like Vyse and Rubeus who just keep promising content but never deliver. In general I am finding most of the interactions I am seeing people have as town so far, but I don't have nearly enough on a lot of the player base to read them one way or another.

I am adding Soren to my scum reads based solely on his posting over the past few pages.

So I have 3 scum reads at the moment (strongest-weakest) Vonflare-Soren-You (Lucian).

This rings pretty true, this was how I felt when I was pretty active in this game, then this week was a nightmare for me with activity so I just read up now and I feel like I'm in that half of the players who aren't really playing (and I feel bad for it). Even reading, it always seems like 5 or 6 players really show up and are volatile and active and such, but for those 5 or 6 who are over-the top active, there are 5 or 6 (such as myself) who completely fall out for 20 pages (minimum), and then everyone else is in the middle-most activity region.

Anyways, I don't like the wagon on BRantz. I still kinda like the wagon on vonflaire, especially when he said something like, "I'm going on VLA" and then someone else was like, "You should vote Jackal" and von was just like, "K, I'm a mindless sheep going on vacation so here have my vote woo." Sorry I don't have the quote, I just got lazy and didn't feel like tabbing over to von's ISO.

VOTE: vonflaire

EBWOP

↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:I'm willing to vote Brantz, mainly because I don't see anything that makes me think they're especially town, but I also don't see anything especially scum. I'll look back in context possibly, but either way I'd rather not vote/lynch them while they're VLA.

I also agree with this, but I'm kinda lean town on BRantz as opposed to null either way. It seems that some people just wanna vote BRantz just to get the lynch over with, and yet nobody thinks BRantz is particularly scummy nor particularly town.

What's the motivation behind not claiming voteless when it's pretty obvious who it is at this point?

If the Brantz wagon is going to be the thing, that's fine. BB has a thing, let's do the thing to him as well.

Presumably the reason to use that thing right now instead of later is the fear that BB will get killed if we let a night phase happen?

↑ Marquis wrote:is wondering why you had to pedit the mod post when it was an hour and a half before your 1926

thinking hard huh

I leave this tab open, and sometimes I forget to refresh it.
I still felt bad about it...

I'm vote for BB if I have to to try to get the night skip.

Brantz I'm fine with dying.

Is unintentional repetition a scumtell? Repetition of words and posts, that is.

Narinian seems somewhat neutral in this game. I feel like reading him third party.
His stances on various subjects, for instance: the use of Molla's night skip ability, makes me curious about his motives, but he's a tad passive about the presentation of his thoughts to the town. He's not exactly driving his ideas, but he's not exactly disagreeing with anyone else's at the same time. No one addressed him a lot today, which I think was a mistake, as I would've liked to see a bit more involvement from him. (Hypocritical, I know). He hung back from the spot-light, but also gave his views on various matters, even if they were concurrent to the majority of the views being spoken about in the current discussion. Different views aren't a bad thing, in fact everyone needs a devil's advocate for each game, but the way he went about his reads, and his stances seemed slightly indifferent, yet almost productive. I actually agreed with him about not using the night skip at one point in the game, but then I changed my mind about that after realizing the importance of the town using it tonight above all other nights. His votes today were solid, even if he sheeped at some points, but nothing seemed extraneous. I think at one point in the game, I literally asked him to vote for BRantz, and he did it. To say the least, I didn't exactly expect that from him, so that leaves me to question his actual involvement, as I stated before. In any case, I don't know why I'm bringing this up right now. It just happened to cross my mind.

To give an example of things that sound like you care, but you aren't taking a stance would be something like this:

↑ Narninian wrote:I was wondering why you wanted to use it day 1 when it works like that; but I think seeing who everyone wants to shoot is useful so didn't say anything.

I mean, I'd guess it'd pass as "passiveness," but since I've never played a game with most of the people here, I can't exactly tell if this is a normality, or a simple lack of involvement. I also understand that he signed up for 2 large games that had simultaneous day-phases, (which he stated in-thread), so I can see why his involvement could be lacking, but I can't see why his stances are so strange.

He also showed reluctance to the Jackel wagon... etc etc, you get the point.

So, in a haphazard conclusion, I have a semi-scumread on Narinian.

↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:Shush. They can treat me however they like, I take pleasure in bruising the ego's of people by being lynched and showing that they were wrong, and perhaps aren't as good at this as they think they are.

Isn't that taking the game to a personal level?