Please provide a couple examples of Titus doing this as scum in previous games.In post 1919, ɀefiend wrote:What?In post 1915, Gamma Emerald wrote:So just the use os PL as a reason?
I felt it was a strong case, and SS's rage kinda felt like scum caught for the wrong reason.
DEO's reason was that SS's reason was a PL. It was not. It was clarified as a joke, interpreted as a joke by multiple people; the self-meta was questioned -- and still DEO carried on for over 20 pages.
A TvT situation would have been like:
"PL lynch Titus! She's always scum!"
"Are you seriously suggesting that?"
"No, it was a joke!"
<game continues>
Instead DEO took control of the game.
Why is it only scummy if she's done it before?In post 1927, mhsmith0 wrote:Please provide a couple examples of Titus doing this as scum in previous games.
I've had at least 3 games with/containing Titus. The most notable one I can think of is College Mafia, she was in a hydra with Dwlee and I don't recall her ever being so persistent with a single minor point like in this game.In post 1920, Postie wrote:The way Titus kept ignoring legitimate concerns that were brought up about PLgate rubbed me the wrong way, but I'm not discounting the possibility that Titus was just confbiasing so hard that she didn't feel the need to consider those things.
How many games have you had with Titus? I've seen her pull some major moonlogic as both alignments.In post 1914, ɀefiend wrote:I don't see a competent player like Titus doing that as Town.
I'm not saying that building a case around someone wanting to PL you is invalid.In post 1921, Gamma Emerald wrote:Let's note this is Titus and MathBlade we're talking about here. I KNOW Math is a tunneler as town, and Titus likely believed the PL thing was valid. I've seen people use tells like "people who suggest PLs are scum" as town as major case builders.In post 1919, ɀefiend wrote:What?In post 1915, Gamma Emerald wrote:So just the use os PL as a reason?
I felt it was a strong case, and SS's rage kinda felt like scum caught for the wrong reason.
DEO's reason was that SS's reason was a PL. It was not. It was clarified as a joke, interpreted as a joke by multiple people; the self-meta was questioned -- and still DEO carried on for over 20 pages.
A TvT situation would have been like:
"PL lynch Titus! She's always scum!"
"Are you seriously suggesting that?"
"No, it was a joke!"
<game continues>
Instead DEO took control of the game.
btw both point I make here are based in the same game.
I'm not building a scum-meta case on Titus, I'm trying to show how things appear in the context of THIS game. Also see above posts; I have experience with Titus as both alignments.In post 1927, mhsmith0 wrote:Please provide a couple examples of Titus doing this as scum in previous games.In post 1919, ɀefiend wrote:What?In post 1915, Gamma Emerald wrote:So just the use os PL as a reason?
I felt it was a strong case, and SS's rage kinda felt like scum caught for the wrong reason.
DEO's reason was that SS's reason was a PL. It was not. It was clarified as a joke, interpreted as a joke by multiple people; the self-meta was questioned -- and still DEO carried on for over 20 pages.
A TvT situation would have been like:
"PL lynch Titus! She's always scum!"
"Are you seriously suggesting that?"
"No, it was a joke!"
<game continues>
Instead DEO took control of the game.
It's very ambiguous where Math comes into the picture. I don't know if DEO is a hydra, if Titus "grew" MathBlade into the slot through some weird mechanic, or wtf is going on. But (again, I was not present for all of Day 1, so my read perspective is different), I believe it was mostly Titus who was pushing SS Day 1. You don't really see Math signing as themselves until Day 2.In post 1926, Gamma Emerald wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=68707
Infinity is my reference for tells like the one Titus used, he said 40% of the time scum would vote GL based on his username
Math tunneled me in this game for ALL of day 1
Maybe they were maybe they weren't. They were definitely fun to read.In post 1934, Gamma Emerald wrote:iirc all the in-character posts that DEO posted were math
Titus and I are very literal. Best not to joke with us. It has a 50/50 shot of being read right at best.In post 1927, mhsmith0 wrote:Please provide a couple examples of Titus doing this as scum in previous games.In post 1919, ɀefiend wrote:What?In post 1915, Gamma Emerald wrote:So just the use os PL as a reason?
I felt it was a strong case, and SS's rage kinda felt like scum caught for the wrong reason.
DEO's reason was that SS's reason was a PL. It was not. It was clarified as a joke, interpreted as a joke by multiple people; the self-meta was questioned -- and still DEO carried on for over 20 pages.
A TvT situation would have been like:
"PL lynch Titus! She's always scum!"
"Are you seriously suggesting that?"
"No, it was a joke!"
<game continues>
Instead DEO took control of the game.
Like that exactly. <3In post 1811, KuroiXHF wrote:Now kiss.In post 1808, mhsmith0 wrote:you mean like this?In post 1806, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also I have been "shipped together", whatever that means.
In post 1935, The DEO wrote:If you aren't building a scum meta case on Titus what are you doing then? Building a town meta case? Spamming?
~~Math
And I have no fucking clue how Lycan knew my meta as Town and no I don't want to talk about it because I am still pissed. If the first post didn't say not bastard I would have assumed actor.
In post 1932, ɀefiend wrote:In post 1927, mhsmith0 wrote:Please provide a couple examples of Titus doing this as scum in previous games.In post 1919, ɀefiend wrote:What?In post 1915, Gamma Emerald wrote:So just the use os PL as a reason?
I felt it was a strong case, and SS's rage kinda felt like scum caught for the wrong reason.
DEO's reason was that SS's reason was a PL. It was not. It was clarified as a joke, interpreted as a joke by multiple people; the self-meta was questioned -- and still DEO carried on for over 20 pages.
A TvT situation would have been like:
"PL lynch Titus! She's always scum!"
"Are you seriously suggesting that?"
"No, it was a joke!"
<game continues>
Instead DEO took control of the game.I'm not building a scum-meta case on Titus, I'm trying to show how things appear in the context of THIS game.Also see above posts; I have experience with Titus as both alignments.
You have literally nothing to do with my case at the moment. If you are patient I will get to you and Lycan. Of course you don't want to hear about it, the whole thing was a ruse. Well too bad -- I am not going to let you sweep it under the rug so you and/or Titus can continue dictating the game in a terrible direction.In post 1936, The DEO wrote:Maybe they were maybe they weren't. They were definitely fun to read.In post 1934, Gamma Emerald wrote:iirc all the in-character posts that DEO posted were math
~~Math
The 2nd part is usually a scum problem.
What if I told you that I had extensive experience with Titus and that she tends to be aggressive, tunnelly, and unafraid to strongarm lynches (even bad ones) as town, while as scum she tends to be more subdued and reasonable-sounding?In post 1932, ɀefiend wrote:I'm not building a scum-meta case on Titus, I'm trying to show how things appear in the context of THIS game. Also see above posts; I have experience with Titus as both alignments.
What do you make of his 1417?In post 1911, Postie wrote:It was a joke.In post 296, Lycanfire wrote:Sorry that was my role in my last RC game. I think I'm stuck in the past
That meta doesn't always apply to Titus.In post 1947, mhsmith0 wrote:What if I told you that I had extensive experience with Titus and that she tends to be aggressive, tunnelly, and unafraid to strongarm lynches (even bad ones) as town, while as scum she tends to be more subdued and reasonable-sounding?In post 1932, ɀefiend wrote:I'm not building a scum-meta case on Titus, I'm trying to show how things appear in the context of THIS game. Also see above posts; I have experience with Titus as both alignments.
Vote him into being cooperative?