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In post 1923, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1920, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 1918, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1912, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 1903, Reasonably Rational wrote:@Snarky: Have you lie detected anything yet? If not, there's something I want to claim and have you lie detect, as soon as I get the other heads approval.

Actually, I can copy you tomorrow if I'm alive.
I think its more useful to actually Lie Detect Venmar's claim imo.

There are reasons why claim confirmation today is a good thing.

Drixx responded to a text, says he'll be able to talk in about 5 hours.

-Cerb

@Venmar nope Drixx hasn’t.

And I was really hoping this wouldn’t become a mechanics show.

Because

reasons

I disagree with claim confirmation.

OTM, every Varsoon game becomes a mechanics show, and only in the case of FFT was that the wrong thing to do(so far).

-Cerb

In post 1924, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 1923, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1920, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 1918, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1912, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 1903, Reasonably Rational wrote:@Snarky: Have you lie detected anything yet? If not, there's something I want to claim and have you lie detect, as soon as I get the other heads approval.

Actually, I can copy you tomorrow if I'm alive.
I think its more useful to actually Lie Detect Venmar's claim imo.

There are reasons why claim confirmation today is a good thing.

Drixx responded to a text, says he'll be able to talk in about 5 hours.

-Cerb

@Venmar nope Drixx hasn’t.

And I was really hoping this wouldn’t become a mechanics show.

Because

reasons

I disagree with claim confirmation.

OTM, every Varsoon game becomes a mechanics show, and only in the case of FFT was that the wrong thing to do(so far).

-Cerb

Protomen was a mechanics show?

In post 1926, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 1924, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 1923, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1920, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 1918, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1912, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 1903, Reasonably Rational wrote:@Snarky: Have you lie detected anything yet? If not, there's something I want to claim and have you lie detect, as soon as I get the other heads approval.

Actually, I can copy you tomorrow if I'm alive.
I think its more useful to actually Lie Detect Venmar's claim imo.

There are reasons why claim confirmation today is a good thing.

Drixx responded to a text, says he'll be able to talk in about 5 hours.

-Cerb

@Venmar nope Drixx hasn’t.

And I was really hoping this wouldn’t become a mechanics show.

Because

reasons

I disagree with claim confirmation.

OTM, every Varsoon game becomes a mechanics show, and only in the case of FFT was that the wrong thing to do(so far).

-Cerb

Protomen was a mechanics show?

He means FFT the anonymous PT game Varsoon ran.

In post 1925, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 1923, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1920, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 1918, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1912, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 1903, Reasonably Rational wrote:@Snarky: Have you lie detected anything yet? If not, there's something I want to claim and have you lie detect, as soon as I get the other heads approval.

Actually, I can copy you tomorrow if I'm alive.
I think its more useful to actually Lie Detect Venmar's claim imo.

There are reasons why claim confirmation today is a good thing.

Drixx responded to a text, says he'll be able to talk in about 5 hours.

-Cerb

@Venmar nope Drixx hasn’t.

And I was really hoping this wouldn’t become a mechanics show.

Because

reasons

I disagree with claim confirmation.

OTM, every Varsoon game becomes a mechanics show, and only in the case of FFT was that the wrong thing to do(so far).

-Cerb

Djajajwiejsiakskajwiqba

You realize I was scum in that game and won without a single post because I manipulated the mechanics before posting even begun yeah? I used artwork to get inside everyone’s heads.

Like legit this feels like FFT all over again except I am town and I am trying to find the puppet master.

In post 1929, Purple Heart wrote:I still do not know to this day who all of the alts were in that game.

In post 659, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 657, Shining Dreamers wrote:

In post 649, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 622, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 619, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 600, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 584, Chara wrote:

In post 579, OnTheMark wrote:That's not really how I expect someone who town reads another to disregard what they are saying. The Titus/Kiana question was more an after thought but I was mainly trying to get a feel for Cerb. (And yes I'm calling the slot Cerb until Drixx pops in. Deal.)

i would argue that scum RR pays

more

attention to how they answer questions, not less.

They did pay attention. The reaction was IDGAF. I wasn't saying they're not paying attention. It's that they are blatantly contradicting themselves. And I don't know where Cerb

actually

stands on mechanical issues or his reads. I want that to stop.

Also, you could actually ask me questions directly if you want to know where I stand on something. I think it's pretty clear where I stand on everything, and you're misreading a number of things I've said, either intentionally or due to some sort of bias, but I can certainly clarify stuff if you want to ask.

-Cerb

Do you value mechanics play or regular play?

Do you support the everyone vote for themselves plan?

Who are your top town and scumreads?

Let’s start there.

Define "regular" play. If you want to know how I play(which you should already know, and which should tell you what I value, but I'll gladly reiterate it to everyone): I enjoy mechanically breaking games and doing everything in my power to do the objectively optimal play in all situations, again, mechanically speaking. I attempt to create auto-win situations for myself, as either alignment. As far as reads go, I only value those parts of reads which can be documented, where you can lay out a logical set of reasons why x is why, based on actions taken.

In post 631, Shining Dreamers wrote:As for RR, the patented Phosphophyllite test is that unless they bring actual read to the main thread, you hang them and you look happy doing it. Not into any PTs alone. Into the main thread. You cannot fail in this way.

- Phosphophyllite

You're still my favorite Yume. <3 I don't actually think I've ever been secretive about a read in a PT and not expressed it in the main thread as well, eventually. There have been times where I've told one party I suspect someone while not acting like I suspect them in the main thread, in order to further a gambit(generally Drixx generated) of some sort, or vice versa, but the truth always comes out afterwards, regardless of alignment. I can appreciate your sentiment though.

In post 641, Venmar wrote:

In post 617, Reasonably Rational wrote:^^ Also, I wrote up my response to your post in our hydra PT, but since nobody seems to care about your case or agree with you(so far), I won't bother posting it! <3

i'll actually be the devils advocate here cause im curious in your response. right now you're just smugly dismissing and discrediting the case.

That's because it's easy to dismiss, and OTM didn't ask for my response, only for that of those who TR me.

Anyways, that's 1!

-Cerb

ILU too.

- Phosphophyllite

P.S: If you're scum, please tell your buddies not to kill us. I am still sad that I wasn't able to enjoy SU2 fully.

As am I. I think we win if we leave you alive, it took us down a dark, desperate path. :-/

And I solemnly swear that I will do everything in my power to make sure you live until I have cause to believe you're scum.

-Cerb

In post 1935, Alisae wrote:If anyone can GIVE mana I would like some mana.

In post 1935, Alisae wrote:If anyone can GIVE mana I would like some mana.

In post 1937, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1935, Alisae wrote:If anyone can GIVE mana I would like some mana.

Seconded.

In post 1479, Alisae wrote:

In post 1477, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 1475, Alisae wrote:mastina you can say goodbye to your mana btw.

Why???

I townread Mastina+Yume

This is scum mastina I'm sorry I never seen mastina just be so wrong before and approach a game from such a scummy PoV.

In post 1485, Shining Dreamers wrote:And since we're the same, you're scumreading me as well, and you never do that on d1 as town.

- Phosphophyllite

In post 1937, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1935, Alisae wrote:If anyone can GIVE mana I would like some mana.

Seconded.

In post 1939, Shining Dreamers wrote:

In post 1937, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1935, Alisae wrote:If anyone can GIVE mana I would like some mana.

Seconded.

You said we won't die. You broke your promise, promise-breaker.... >.>

- Phosphophyllite

In post 1946, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also, nobody should give purple heart mana cuz they already stole someone elses mana, if they needed mana so badly they shoulda planned better!

-Cerb

In post 1056, Iconeum wrote:Can anyone explain to me why there are so few scumreads on Chara?
A fake miller claim and a push to lynch town D1 'for the good of town' make this a scumread for me.

In post 1057, Iconeum wrote:Going through Chara ISO, it's all about steering conversation towards a fake claim and about how it's better to lynch town. For the latter, iteven mentions 2 different reasons:
-More likely for town to win the game
-powering up own slot

Even more, out of all players it choses OTM as the sacrificial townie to be lynched. One of the more widely accepted townreads.

Rereading, there is 0 motivation to make a towncohesion. There are no reads expressed, and a naked vote on Skybird in 803.
It mentions skybird a bunch of times, but never takes the effort to actually dig into the case. There is very little overal commitment to reads.

VOTE: Chara

In post 1058, Iconeum wrote:There was also the anti-claiming campaign, while (fake)claiming which doesn't make sense.