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In post 1924, Wisdom wrote:

Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1916, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1912, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1909, Wisdom wrote:eddie specifically wanted me to move kokichi out of g2 and lynch g2, which would actually have a worse result than what we got

No, I specifically wanted to lynch group 2 and said if you had to move someone move Kokichi. This was beause you were claiming a 100% confident townread and I wasn't aware of how many PRs we had at the time.

If I had done what you wanted we would have 5 townies dead (assuming I swapped kokichi with a townie). Which is one more than we have now. So how the fuck are you still criticizing what happened?

And my plan was to donate Kokichi or Fitz back to group 2 after because you were sussing me, but if they end up being town feel free to criticize me.

yeah right
you wanted me to use an action so you can cancel it
because thats how town uses their power

well its better than using your power to gamethrow :shrug:

In post 1921, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1918, Wisdom wrote:what "quicklynch" are you even talking about? day took way too long

the fact

from the time i went offline

yall did another swap and lynched them

and i was literally gone under a day

it was decided we're lynching group 3 since i decided im making the swap. It was in no way, shape or form a quicklynch. If anything, it took way too long. Stop trying to push ridiculous narratives.

In post 1926, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1921, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1918, Wisdom wrote:what "quicklynch" are you even talking about? day took way too long

the fact

from the time i went offline

yall did another swap and lynched them

and i was literally gone under a day

it was decided we're lynching group 3 since i decided im making the swap. It was in no way, shape or form a quicklynch. If anything, it took way too long. Stop trying to push ridiculous narratives.

why don't you show where that was decided then?

are you fucking kidding me now? are you in a different game? I did the swap because we would lynch group 3, there was no alternative. This was extensively discussed yesterday.

UNVOTE:
consider my vote on group 2

In post 1928, Wisdom wrote:are you fucking kidding me now? are you in a different game? I did the swap because we would lynch group 3, there was no alternative. This was extensively discussed yesterday.

YOU did the swap, correct. It being extensively discussed does not make it a foregone conclusion. I argued againsti ta cively as did others. Are you fucking kidding me right now? Are you so delusional you think everything you want to happen will happen?

In post 1070, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1057, Wisdom wrote:I believe everyone has spoken

Swap Riku and REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE

VOTE: group 3

I told you not to do this

VOTE: Group 2

In post 1074, Eddie Cane wrote:I think group 3 is still a better hit, but ROJ pinged me a lot on the last page and I am not interested in entertaining that garbage swap.

In post 1075, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1073, Wisdom wrote:eddie are you scum? ffs

hey buddy

i said about 5 times

we are lynching group 2 and you can swap kok out for a group 3 if you want and that was it

i am doing this on principal i don't really care

In post 1085, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1079, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1075, Eddie Cane wrote:hey buddy

i said about 5 times

we are lynching group 2 and you can swap kok out for a group 3 if you want and that was it

i am doing this on principal i don't really care

principal is a shit excuse
you're trying to lynch 4, potentially 5 town now

Lets see

ROJ has a shit asf reads list

You just used your role in probably the most pro scum way possible

I have no read on BuJaber

Kokichi is the only town in that group I'm confnident in

and more importantly, my last bunch of posts have ALL told oyu we are lynching group 2 and not group 3 and to swap kok and you ignored me

so i think there's a decent shot you're scum manipulating wtih your role

and if you're town

then you deserve to get called a gamethrower because that was a dogshit play and youre WAY smarter than that

In post 1094, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1052, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1046, Wisdom wrote:eddie who do you swap if you know me and kokichi are town

I told you

swap kok and someone in group 3 and we lynch group 2 or dont swap

that's about it

In post 1016, Eddie Cane wrote:we are lunching group 2. you can swap kok iur. that's the extent I'll allow

In post 943, Eddie Cane wrote:we are lynching group 2 today.

i approve of swapping kok with someone, probably cakez

that's about it

In post 639, Eddie Cane wrote:also yes with kok hard claiming wr fo unfortunately have to do group 2

guess u got me wisdom

In post 638, Eddie Cane wrote:if we swap 1 person it's fine. no more than that.

yea i'm scum wisdom nobody objected to your BRILLIANT plan

In post 1100, Eddie Cane wrote:what if you just saved ROJ and possibly Pine?

In post 1106, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1099, Pine wrote:Shut the fuck up with the backbiting, Eddie.

Now is not the time.

It's done.

Roll with the new reality.

Swap Pine and Muffin

Lynch Group 3 for GREAT JUSTICE.

oy you shut the fuck up

he doesn't get to say things like

eddie who do you swap if you know me and kokichi are town

and then say

In post 1073, Wisdom wrote:eddie are you scum? ffs

when I don't vote with him and his horse shit plan that i repeatedly said i wasn't going along with. especially when he directly asked me implying my opinion is valued or something.


now i'm not going to act like wisdom can't be town and right and save more town this way

BUT

ITS STILL OBJECTIVELY BAD PLAY


faking a guilty on scum doesn't make faking the guilty optimal play

im not talking to you anymore
VOTE: group 2

In post 1637, Pine wrote:Shit I didn't get to vote for myself

VOTE: 3

For glorrrryyyyyyy

Currently suspecting Muffin, maaaaaybe Wisdom.

REMEMBER: IF RIKU FLIPS TOWN, THERE IS 100% SCUM IN {WISDOM, BUJABER}

I'm not talking to you anymore

Pine:
sr'd Bu, tr'd fitz, no clue on ROJ

Cakez:
strong sr'd fitz, realmen, strong tr'd buj

Riku:
basically said nothing relevant for the last 1000 posts, goodplay.php

In post 1463, dramonic wrote:

In post 1460, Wisdom wrote:lynching g2 is fucking gamethrowing
I've moved the only one of two who can be scum out of g2
We have to pray pine is scum and even then we lose 4 town

swapping Riku out of G2 was gamethrowing.

yup,
but anyways Dramonic:
only relevant recent read is a lot of lynch Wisdom and also Buj offhanded, but

In post 1177, dramonic wrote:If Eddie can move people the only intelligent play would be to put Riku back in Group 2

EDIT: It also ignores the game state.

yup. lol. fuck you and you arrogance wisdom. <3 love you though buddy.

most relevant one due to being the NK, DV:
strong sr'd fitz, fos'd roj, strong tr'd bu


so wisdom, back to my point. roj and fitz are scumfucks. buj is townishly stupid. you are townishly stupid (selectively ignoring Pine and Dramonic here because I think you just annoyed them). kokichi going to group 1 is stupid because you and nsg are both more likely to flip town than fitz and roj. we are not ignoring the dead people of the game. and, fwiw, the reverse reads:

ROJ:
only not-town are myself, dramonic, fitz, and riku. 2 flipped town, 1 me, 1 person in his group. the only chance he has to be correct on a scumread is someone in his group. wisdom and nsg are two of his 3 strong TRs, so he should be supporting this move.

Fitz:
has basically posted nothing all game, but what he has,
looks like a fos on DV, looks like a fos on cakez, his 3 scumreads by a lot of dots are sircakez, riku, and dramonic, all of whom were town, and before that was NSG for a lack of content just ahead of ROJ (in his group). 1053

Don't really care about Buj and reading his posts annoys me more than Fitz so I'm not gonna bother, I don't really scumread Buj and he is not why I chose group 3.

Eddie
Discussions happened about what should be done before any swaps. Long discussions. Then wisdom jumped the gun a little bit. But regardless he ended the pre switch discussion. So now there was a long debate trying to convince muffin not to undo wisdom's PR and waste both of their PRs. Which he eventually agreed to do. Now the choice was obvious. Lynch the new group that the PRs created or lynch a 5 man group of (at the time) mostly townreads.

Just explaining why it was a 'quicklynch' after the switches.

VOTE: group 1

eddie/nsg/kokichi

Just prefer this because nsg is certain to be scum whether it's eddie or not

In post 1935, BuJaber wrote:Eddie
Discussions happened about what should be done before any swaps. Long discussions. Then wisdom jumped the gun a little bit. But regardless he ended the pre switch discussion. So now there was a long debate trying to convince muffin not to undo wisdom's PR and waste both of their PRs. Which he eventually agreed to do. Now the choice was obvious. Lynch the new group that the PRs created or lynch a 5 man group of (at the time) mostly townreads.

but where was I during all of this?

In post 1937, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: group 1

eddie/nsg/kokichi

Just prefer this because nsg is certain to be scum whether it's eddie or not

if NSG is certain to be scum

this needs to be cased

because we have 1 conf scum already

In post 1938, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 1935, BuJaber wrote:Eddie
Discussions happened about what should be done before any swaps. Long discussions. Then wisdom jumped the gun a little bit. But regardless he ended the pre switch discussion. So now there was a long debate trying to convince muffin not to undo wisdom's PR and waste both of their PRs. Which he eventually agreed to do. Now the choice was obvious. Lynch the new group that the PRs created or lynch a 5 man group of (at the time) mostly townreads.

but where was I during all of this?

You tell me

Man if only dramon and you are not irrationally afraid of lylo.

It's partition mafia. Partitions. It's very difficult for scum to force an early town loss without exposing themselves.
You really should have put koki in group 1. Gets rid of confscum so we know we can't lose and sorts nsg who's an enigma this game.

Even if I ignore my scumread on you eddie it is very difficult to lynch the 4 man group.

RMOJ care to tell us who your main is? We need all the help we can get now. Maybe there's some meta read we can rely on.

if you are scum youve put kokichi in g3 so you can win otherwise youd put him in g1
therefore youre scum with nsg

if you are town then its realmen/kokichi/nsg
scum dont put both of them in g3

there is the possibility muffin is scum but i think hes town

It's 2 scum or lose.

A 1 scum or lose decision is easier, because odds of any 3 man group to have 1 scum is much better than 2 being in 4.
Especially when 3 of those scum chose to put together and the last well they had to at least think about what would happen if you would move someone out of your group.

You have to be scum here man

[quote="In post 1942, BuJaber"][/quote]
this i can empathize with

because if you're town (and you're the best bet for town in that group by a long shot) then you know you have to hit 2 scum out of 3 to not autolose

plus people are (or should be) always inclined away from lynching themselves

so do you want to talk about something other than me being scum?

In post 1943, Wisdom wrote:if you are scum youve put kokichi in g3 so you can win otherwise youd put him in g1
therefore youre scum with nsg

if you are town then its realmen/kokichi/nsg
scum dont put both of them in g3

there is the possibility muffin is scum but i think hes town

i understand you saying if i'm scum nsg is my partner, i've also had some partnery content with them in my iso i guess (lack of stances, handwaving as town)

but i don't see what makes nsg scum if i'm town?

scum dont put both of them in the biggest group
therefore its one in g3 and nsg

why?

because they arent stupid