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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:32 am
by Morality
I’m more threatened by the strong town players on this site when I’m town than when I’m scum.
I’ll go Boats. If I’m wrong on RCE, which i wouldn’t be surprised if he’s just hard pocketed by Shoshin, Boats is still is setting up COA/Me without committing.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:36 am
by RadiantCowbells
I mean I think you're buddies and I'm gonna leave a strong mandate for you to follow but hey at least you get a chance to give reads with 1 flipped scum
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:37 am
by Morality
What’s your thought process on Boats if he flips town, though?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:37 am
by Morality
The game* if boat flips
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:38 am
by RadiantCowbells
My thought process is something like
??????? welp I'm dead anyway so gbai
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:38 am
by RadiantCowbells
How's that?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:39 am
by Morality
I mean, protectives are a thing. You make sense as a protective target.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:39 am
by Morality
If I were a protective, I’d target you.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:40 am
by RadiantCowbells
c that makes so much sense but like
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:40 am
by Morality
Actually this isnt entirely true. I’d let townRC die sometimes so I can catch scum in his town locks. But regardless, yeah, I’d go over that possibility.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:40 am
by RadiantCowbells
RadiantCowbells has been flipped he was a vanilla townie etc etc
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:41 am
by Morality
In post 1934, Morality wrote:
Actually this isnt entirely true. I’d let townRC die sometimes so I can catch scum in his town locks. But regardless, yeah, I’d go over that possibility.
This is also a very selfish me thing to do, though, but yeah, just being honest.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:41 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 1934, Morality wrote:
Actually this isnt entirely true. I’d let townRC die sometimes so I can catch scum in his town locks. But regardless, yeah, I’d go over that possibility.
Ftr I think it's playing against wincon not to vote you
I just don't want to have to muscle everyone back onto you
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:44 am
by Morality
In post 1937, RadiantCowbells wrote: In post 1934, Morality wrote:
Actually this isnt entirely true. I’d let townRC die sometimes so I can catch scum in his town locks. But regardless, yeah, I’d go over that possibility.
Ftr I think it's playing against wincon not to vote you
I just don't want to have to muscle everyone back onto you
I disagree. My late game town game is pretty heavy, and I typically am night killed in games before I get to that point.
I like to think my alignment generally sells itself most of the time by late game.
It’s why I have to play anti-bus. It’s way too hard for me to win as scum when I get to like 3p lylo, or 5p lylo.
My early-mid game scum game is where I shine.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:45 am
by Morality
Also, people like to keep us around when we’re TvT because they think that we’ll end up getting each other killed. I don’t believe we’ve lost a game where we were both Town.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:45 am
by RadiantCowbells
I find statements like that odd. I don't shine at any point I just find a path to endgame and I execute it
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:48 am
by RadiantCowbells
If anything I excel at pushing lynches but I earned that skill through town play and just apply it to scum games... So is that really a scum skill I wonder.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:49 am
by RadiantCowbells
Going to ask for an extension on day.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:49 am
by Morality
In post 1940, RadiantCowbells wrote:I find statements like that odd. I don't shine at any point I just find a path to endgame and I execute it
And that’s where you shine at. That is the way you see mafia. People see the same thing in different lights, and that’s what I look for when reading people.
I’m gonna do things in ways you don’t think are beneficial, and you’re gonna do things in ways I don’t think are beneficial, and I’m sure we could argue about that in circles.
You’re wrong about me. We’re literally playing out every single game we ever have together.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:54 am
by RadiantCowbells
In the end this all matters very little
CoA response to the last dozen pages determines if she's the Lynch or not
From there it's basically whichever of you and BnH that people townread less
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:56 am
by RadiantCowbells
I'm going to actually read Shoshins scum game for a little bit of context but I doubt it changes my read on her much
Maybe if scum is something like Tarkus Shoshin BnH
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:57 am
by RadiantCowbells
Like I do see this world
I just think it's... less likely than other worlds
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:58 am
by RadiantCowbells
You scumreading shoshin and not considering Tarkus the obvious obvious partner is weird to me
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:58 am
by RadiantCowbells
Like either flip fmpov you'd speedlynch the other
You haven't even brought it up
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:58 am
by Morality
I am ScumShoshin’s biggest threat this game. ScumShoshin doesn’t kill you here even if they try to frame me. It’s just not worth losing the RC support. If I were scum and killing you, Shoshin gets that as an argument.
I feel like I’m more likely to die than you are because I’m null on a lot of people, town read by some, only scum read really by like...you and Shoshin, and I don’t think you actually see me as scum as confidently as you let off. It’s just your paranoia and your wanting of me to be scum.