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[OSTENTATIOUS]

So my issue with the dead thread is that the FL/DEB dynamic always nightkills town. Dannflor can't outvote them. I don't have a vote.

FL has handled the dead thread really interestingly but is holding off on explaining his reasoning to me til after this night phase.

(I have a lot of meta with Boon and need some more potent content from him to determine his alignment).

Cheeky is strictly a better lynch than Binary Star from the perspective of hitting scum. BS are not posting to be townread, and they actually don't look all that scummy. Cheeky is coasting, taking easy pushes and only posting to be townread.

Thoughts?

[Binary Star]

Okay Mr Ostentatious Sir, we can do Cheeky first.

VOTE: Cheeky

[Chickadee]

I'm down for cheeky but Binary, we need a claim from you. Everyone else has claimed.

[Chickadee]

We've been asking for a claim for quite a while now, and the game has kind of halted (for various reasons), and you come back in when someone proposes a wagon that isn't you and you jump on it.

[OSTENTATIOUS]

VOTE: Binary Star the right dead people approve of this.

[jjh927]

Right I'm reappearing now

[jjh927]

I'm not that surprised things haven't been moving much here tbh considering there is a large amount of overlap in POE so there's not much to argue about

[jjh927]

Chickadee kinda weirded me out a bit though

[jjh927]

Could everyone work on a POE list?

Sure.
Arkham Asylum, jjh, Egix, and Turin Turambar are town.
Given that, there's ~2 scum in {CheekyTeeky, Pine, Binary Star, Chemist, Chickadee}.
Given that we have two mislynches that's a 66% chance at victory at worst by my probably-horrifically-wrong mental math.

This list is kind of awful.
Your only town reads are [the most widely town-read megahydra slot], [someone who claimed a reviver type role], [our connection to the dead thread] (all widely townread), and jjh. Not that I have any reason to scum read jjh, but why is jjh in that list?

And your scum list is.......everyone else.

None of these tiers are in any particular order:

Never lynch

Arkham Asylum
Egix96
OSTENTATIOUS

Would not lynch today

Pine
jjh927

Less lynchable

mastina

More lynchable

Binary Star
CheekyTeeky
Chemist1422

I did ask for POE lists from people, so I figured I'd make mine. I still want a claim from Binary before doing anything vote-wise. It's the only claim we're missing.

If anyone is available to help sort through this, I would appreciate it. I had kind of a hard time finding reasons to place some of these peeple. Particularly chemist. I want to go take another look at that slot. I'm having trouble remembering anything from them, which makes me think they're sinking into the background.

These are basically the same lists but with more tiers

[Chickadee]

That's where you're wrong. Mastina is willing to lynch anyone that isn't the 3 loctown slots or you. I have preferred lynches.








@Binary - if your next post is not a claim, I am voting you. My vote will not be pushing for a claim, but rather a lynch.

[Chickadee]

I'm not that surprised things haven't been moving much here tbh considering there is a large amount of overlap in POE so there's not much to argue about

Can you elaborate on this?

I was just thinking that it's pretty telling that POE lists are wrong if scum is rolling with them....but then it hit me that there haven't actually been many POE lists posted.

[jjh927]

Am I wrong though

[jjh927]

Your preferred lynches is basically the same except with slightly less preference for Mastina, while Mastina is giving reads for the sake of "If we lynch all of these people we will win the game"
You have basically got the same number of townreads because "Would not lynch today" is a bit vague and yet that's the first thing you criticised about Mastina's list

[jjh927]

In terms of poe, I don't think anyone's done a whole lot of changing reads since day 2 and I've been under the impression most people have been pretty much on the same page? I'm pretty sure BS is the only standout divergent opinion

[jjh927]

Although on the not standing out with reads front, I've been meaning to ask Cheeky why she's not hard scumreading me considering she did in Krazy's upick. Given that that was, in parts, a good approximation of my towngame, I think that ought to indicate a tendency to scumread my play in general.

[Chickadee]

Mastina's list is reckless. Lynch all those people and we win the game.....well not really. We probably lose on mislynches. I agree scum is in the same pool of people, but I'm attempting to narrow it down. If you really don't see that, then you're pushing an awful narrative.

[jjh927]

I mean, it's defo less reckless now than when she made it

[jjh927]

And even then it made pretty good sense

I still don't think I'd put you on it

[jjh927]

The dead thread has a fictional nightkill.

Er. Factional. The kill is very real.

What

Yeah, there are two things I don't get about that:
1. If the Graveyard have a factional kill, why have they (seemingly) not used it yet?
2. What's there to stop the scum from effectively using it as a second KP by just sniping @deadline?

1: they targeted AA who was saved by Dannflor.
2: nothing.

Actually, ought to ask:
That only covers one night
What happened the other night?

[Pine]

VOTE: Chemist

[Chickadee]

What's up Pine?
Wanna talk about that vote there?

[Pine]

Pass

[OSTENTATIOUS]

VOTE: chemist

[Chickadee]

I feel like I'm missing something.


regardless, I'm waiting for Binary to come back and claim.

[Pine]

I feel like I'm missing something.


regardless, I'm waiting for Binary to come back and claim.

I think you are, yes.