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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:22 pm
by Menalque
In post 1921, Gamma Emerald wrote:for Titus honestly the fact she's moon logicking this hard is probably a towntell
I don’t get this

Town!titus has a reputation for being extremely logical which she amps up herself half the time when she has a chance

So how is her moonlogic-ing indicative of town!her?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:22 pm
by Menalque
In post 1924, Ginngie wrote:Can someone explain to me why we're okay with Bingle swinging their pirate sword
Huh?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:23 pm
by Ginngie
sorry

I'm not townreading Bingle so I'm wondering if one has reason too

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:24 pm
by chennisden
In post 1918, Menalque wrote:
In post 1914, chennisden wrote:
In post 1913, Menalque wrote:
In post 1902, chennisden wrote:eh

VOTE: alyssa
Why the switch?
my feelings for your slot have been going up with your latest posts

and my feelings for alyssa's slot have been going down with time & reading the game
What about my latest posts is townie?

I think my latest posts are fairly NAI tbh
I'm thinking the probability of you being scum trying to apply continuous pressure to me when it's much more effective to just stop, especially when there's been a lot of opportunities to back out, is maybe less than the probability of Alyssa being scum

For clarity: I'm well aware what I described is probably comfortably in your scumrange and it's not like I'm pulling a complete 180 on my read

Also for clarity: I've been in this game for the span of a couple of hours and in all honesty, I haven't really read much during night phase because I had to grade some stuff/sleep/whatever so like I'm literally feeling my way around and my reads probably are going to look like this:
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:25 pm
by Menalque
If there wasn’t quite such a need for Alyssa to die today then bingle wouldn’t be a bad idea

Idk, everyone is pretty scum in (Chennis, chem, Alyssa, bingle)

I think the risk is that flipping the wrong one means that people refocus elsewhere and the remaining scum coast by

yes, I’m aware of how incredibly beneficial this line is to scum!me but if you think about it for 5 seconds you’ll see why town!me is concerned about it

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:25 pm
by chennisden
In post 1822, Menalque wrote:
In post 1664, Datisi wrote:hello i hate both of these wagons someone end me please
Point of order: dats didn’t die wanting my head, which is actually a worse look for me
And also something about this felt good

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:26 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1925, Menalque wrote:
In post 1921, Gamma Emerald wrote:for Titus honestly the fact she's moon logicking this hard is probably a towntell
I don’t get this

Town!titus has a reputation for being extremely logical which she amps up herself half the time when she has a chance

So how is her moonlogic-ing indicative of town!her?
She moonlogicks as both alignments

But when she does it as town it's totally off the wall and incomprehensible in the way an eldritch abomination is considered incomprehensible

Versus it feeling stilted as scum

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:28 pm
by Ginngie
In post 1931, Gamma Emerald wrote:But when she does it as town it's totally off the wall and incomprehensible in the way an eldritch abomination is considered incomprehensible
Tell me that with 99 insight

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:29 pm
by Gamma Emerald
What does THAT mean?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:34 pm
by Menalque
I think there is currently significant incentive for scum to bus, if scum is roughly where we think it is

In that case, my concern about flipping bingle first is that it lets alyssa push me tomorrow with sufficient cred to probably win that, which then gets her to final 5 where she can hardpush chenn!scum as the other half of her solve

That gets her to final 3 and from there it’s toss up, especially depending on who she brings with her

If it is alyssa scum, then I think there’s massive benefit to lynching her now because it avoids that situation. As she initiated things, if she flips red there’s no free cred for the other scum unless it’s me or turkey (one of which I know is impossible the other I think is v unlikely) which means that the next two lynches if they don’t hit scum are at least much more likely to be town directed

Like provided Alyssa!scum is correct then I do actually think bingle is the best lynch tomorrow anyway

Then re-evaluating the day after that in f5 if the game isn’t over

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:38 pm
by Menalque
In post 1928, chennisden wrote:
In post 1918, Menalque wrote:
In post 1914, chennisden wrote:
In post 1913, Menalque wrote:
In post 1902, chennisden wrote:eh

VOTE: alyssa
Why the switch?
my feelings for your slot have been going up with your latest posts

and my feelings for alyssa's slot have been going down with time & reading the game
What about my latest posts is townie?

I think my latest posts are fairly NAI tbh
I'm thinking the probability of you being scum trying to apply continuous pressure to me when it's much more effective to just stop, especially when there's been a lot of opportunities to back out, is maybe less than the probability of Alyssa being scum

For clarity: I'm well aware what I described is probably comfortably in your scumrange and it's not like I'm pulling a complete 180 on my read

Also for clarity: I've been in this game for the span of a couple of hours and in all honesty, I haven't really read much during night phase because I had to grade some stuff/sleep/whatever so like I'm literally feeling my way around and my reads probably are going to look like this:
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I’m willing to give you time to get back into the game but I know that your approach here is within your scumrange snd I don’t think your slot was townie before you joined by a long shot

I’ll think about whether your explanation for flipping on me makes sense tomorrow it’s super late here. Kinda intuitively think it doesn’t but I guess we’ll see. Like I don’t see why you think that scum!me would drop it if that makes sense? Like especially given that scum!me is aware that high pressure play generally looks town regardless and that you know me well enough to know that I know that

Yes, I’m aware this is getting WIFOMy which is why I think you should reread the game even if you don’t particularly want to do that you’re informed on what everyone has actually done. Even if you just reread all living players in ISO that would be a good start

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:39 pm
by Menalque
In post 1931, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1925, Menalque wrote:
In post 1921, Gamma Emerald wrote:for Titus honestly the fact she's moon logicking this hard is probably a towntell
I don’t get this

Town!titus has a reputation for being extremely logical which she amps up herself half the time when she has a chance

So how is her moonlogic-ing indicative of town!her?
She moonlogicks as both alignments

But when she does it as town it's totally off the wall and incomprehensible in the way an eldritch abomination is considered incomprehensible

Versus it feeling stilted as scum
I will give her benefit of the doubt for now if the turkey is also still hard town on her

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:16 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1842, Titus wrote:
In post 1841, Gamma Emerald wrote:Then why are you FoSing me for not doing a thing I CLEARLY did?
I'm not. You claimed today. I just never saw day 2. That's all I am saying.

I have you as town based on vc 1.12.
OKay I figured out the disconnect but I'm still upset. You DELIBERATELY asked about who bid on hitman, and I responded as soon as I could. Mena might have a point, this gives me the sense your scumhunting is superficial.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:20 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1897, Gamma Emerald wrote:Haven't really looked to hard at Chenn's catchup rn
Yeah so as I can tell this is non-existent? He's just been playing in the now as I see it.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:21 pm
by Alisae
VOTE COUNT 3 . 3
  • Alyssa the Lamb
    - 3 ( Menalque, Ginngie, chennisden )
    Bingle
    ---------- 2 ( Chemist1422, Alyssa the Lamb )
    Menalque
    -------- 1 ( Titus )
    chennisden
    ------ 1 ( Gobbledygook )
    Chemist1422
    ----- 0 ( No One )
    Gobbledygook
    ---- 0 ( No One )
    Titus
    ----------- 0 ( No One )
    Ginngie
    --------- 0 ( No One )
    Gamma Emerald
    --- 0 ( No One )


    Not Voting
    ------ 2 ( Bingle, Gamma Emerald )
Deadline is in (expired on 2020-04-10 19:00:00)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:22 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1905, Titus wrote:I want to lynch in Menalque
Why? Also ftfy

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:24 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1927, Ginngie wrote:sorry

I'm not townreading Bingle so I'm wondering if one has reason too
Nope, not really

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:39 pm
by Bingle
Who got roleblocker D1?

I have all my money, btw.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:49 pm
by Bingle
In post 1927, Ginngie wrote:sorry

I'm not townreading Bingle so I'm wondering if one has reason too
Just me and chem, afaict.

Chem being that scum me has no real incentive to derail his lynch if he's town. The narrative that I'm scum with all of the people independently pushing my lynch is fascinating, though.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:51 pm
by Bingle
Alyssa, talk about how me and Pine makes sense as S/S given :yesterday:.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:54 pm
by Bingle
gobbledygook
Chemist1422
Titus
Gamma Emerald
Ginngie/Alyssa the Lamb
Pine/Menalque

Roughly where I'm at. Roughly where I was at yesterday. Datisi kill is mildly indicative of Mena.

VOTE: Mena

Chennisden, come make AI noises.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:57 pm
by Bingle
SMan - Gamerald
Ninja - Titus
Watcher
BP
RB
Auction Detective (2 Shot) Obscured
Tracker
Neighborizor (2 Shot)

Of these, all of the useful for town options should already have been used, with the exception of BP. If you recieved a role, you should probably claim it.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:04 pm
by Bingle
In post 1822, Menalque wrote:Point of order: dats didn’t die wanting my head, which is actually a worse look for me
?

The wagons referenced there are Chem and Pine.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:14 pm
by Bingle
Mena, why are you SR-ing chem?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:14 pm
by Bingle
Aight.