with 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 4 ends june 16th at 22:50 central US time; in (expired on 2020-06-16 22:50:00)
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:10 am
by popopopopopopo
I will say my trust in norwe town has somewhat deteriorated from where I was day 2. There's no way he just keeps getting scum every game tho...
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:13 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1926, popopopopopopo wrote:I will say my trust in norwe town has somewhat deteriorated from where I was day 2.
Based on?
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:31 am
by popopopopopopo
Feel
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:34 am
by NorwegianboyEE
That hurt my feelings bro.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:34 pm
by word321
u certainly have something other than feel to have manifested like that, right?
whats ur current gamestate? Last time I saw u were heavily tr madonna, tl me and was doubting aloratom. Have recent events changed that?
Dnt u have anything else to say? About ur game as a whole?
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:40 pm
by word321
Oh, forget about the norwee part
Just saw the mini normal
now it makes sense
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:40 pm
by word321
its over, so i dnt think theres a problem talkin about that
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:41 pm
by Aloratom
In post 1923, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't really have much more to say until i've seen a Midway flip i realized. But keep talking. VOTE: Midway
In post 1907, midwaybear wrote:ok, I'm actually going to defend myself but give me some time
no hurry
When do we get this Midway?
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:32 am
by NDMath
I'm kind of understanding 1922.
Day 1 popo does look like tmi if nahdia+midway are both scum.
The nahdia/midway/popo interaction day 2 sticks out the most.
Spoiler: midway+popo interaction with scum early/mid day 2
In post 709, popopopopopopo wrote:the quickhammer was unfortunate but id probably have hammered myself if mans had claimed even night ascetic alien lmfao so its not THAT big a deal
In post 723, midwaybear wrote:checking in. Yes, I agree that I don't like the way the hammer was performed. Waiting for Nahdia
In post 733, midwaybear wrote:definitely found the hammer suspicious, and I agree that her early play was also shady. I view this bandwagon as sort of opportunistic because I'm not sure scum would put themselves under that much suspicion.
pedit: ???
In post 750, midwaybear wrote:it's suspicious that nahdia targetted a dead player because that is easily faked
In post 752, Nahdia wrote:i dont see why me targeting a dead player is any more easy to fake than any living player. hoctac was still a valid target last night.
cuz he flipped, so it is easier to make up something compared to if you targeted a living player
In post 752, Nahdia wrote:i dont see why me targeting a dead player is any more easy to fake than any living player. hoctac was still a valid target last night.
cuz he flipped, so it is easier to make up something compared to if you targeted a living player
In post 775, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Or are you saying scum!Nahdia intentionally chose to say they targeted Hoctac (One of the deaths) with a worthless night action as mafia?
nahdia was fairly scumread yesterday by me and a few others. if scum nahdia claimed visiting a different person they would be at risk of a tracker/watcher/other PR disproving their claim and getting immediately lynched. what do you think a better claim for scum nahdia would be in this situation, assuming they made the NK?
In post 783, popopopopopopo wrote:picture this situation
someone claims tracker - i tracked nahdia to hoctac
nahdia "oh yea im a voyeur hoctac was killed lol"
would be lynched
In post 784, midwaybear wrote:yeah, but nobody tracked them to hoctac. I don't like norwee because his questions aren't really helpful towards the discussion
In post 795, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We have bigger fish to fry. We need information, connections, competing bandwagons right now. I was in this exact same situation in Guns and Roses IV where we had to decide between eyestot/votato and even though we lynched correctly we lost the game. Sometimes, the optimal town play is to go after the stronger scum manipulating from the shadows rather than the lynchbaits.
In post 795, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We have bigger fish to fry. We need information, connections, competing bandwagons right now. I was in this exact same situation in Guns and Roses IV where we had to decide between eyestot/votato and even though we lynched correctly we lost the game. Sometimes, the optimal town play is to go after the stronger scum manipulating from the shadows rather than the lynchbaits.
do you think nahdia is scum y/n
He said he was town reading her day 1. I don't know why because he won't explain.
why did you take ur vote off. i cant believe im the only one who doesn't see the obv scum staring us in the face from that claim.
My point on him overjustifying his case on midway stands. it's an exquisitely scummy case. just a mess of "contradictions" and objective scum moves (the VI thing). in my experience, hunting for contradictions is how mafia pretends to scumhunt. fun fact, town contradicts themselves too. the only fair point popopopopopo raises is that midway wasn't actually outting reads.
also Big Fucking Yikes on 717. please tell me im not the only one that viscerally cringed at that post. like come on.
In post 816, popopopopopopo wrote:like i mean i'll vote midway, but at this point im as confident as i can be on a scumread without like, a confirmed guilty
My point on him overjustifying his case on midway stands. it's an exquisitely scummy case. just a mess of "contradictions" and objective scum moves (the VI thing). in my experience, hunting for contradictions is how mafia pretends to scumhunt. fun fact, town contradicts themselves too. the only fair point popopopopopo raises is that midway wasn't actually outting reads.
also Big Fucking Yikes on 717. please tell me im not the only one that viscerally cringed at that post. like come on.
In post 824, popopopopopopo wrote:whatever, ill gladly switch my vote to midway once everyone checks in if we cant get more people on the nahdia wagon, i was thinking there's a chance he's just noob town but the norwe stuff the last few pages was bad for him for sure
In post 795, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We have bigger fish to fry. We need information, connections, competing bandwagons right now. I was in this exact same situation in Guns and Roses IV where we had to decide between eyestot/votato and even though we lynched correctly we lost the game. Sometimes, the optimal town play is to go after the stronger scum manipulating from the shadows rather than the lynchbaits.
do you think nahdia is scum y/n
Yeah I thought she was scum. The claim could be fake, it could be real, all I know is that lynching nahdia today won't win us the game and while I'm alive I'd like to make some fucking progress on solving.
how does lynching scum not progress the town win con lol
In post 831, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Popo is town, I want to see a push on farside. gobble, stanley... there's too many question marks right now and we're all getting distracted.
In post 831, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Popo is town, I want to see a push on farside. gobble, stanley... there's too many question marks right now and we're all getting distracted.
im not distracted i have caught scum, they made a terrible fakeclaim, now i am pushing their lynch
In post 838, Albert B. Rampage wrote:1v1 between you and Nahdia is a premium animal crossing level distraction. Popo you have no fucking clue what's going on and neither do I because of the stupid bob wagon yesterday.
Ever had a poorly skilled scum win a game because of a lurkerhunt? I have.
Let me preface this article with How to Direct your Attention on Scum 101, in three simple steps:
1. Focus on the player that needs to be lynched. If a player catches your attention, concentrate on them. Probe, ask innocent questions, predict how the next stage of the game will unfold and ask them what they will do if such a situation arises. Surround them with their own convictions and corner them into their own self-imposed molds of accepted behavior. You want them to build a tree house for you to destroy later.
2. Don't lose sight. Ignore other players' inquiries if their questions don't move you closer to lynching your target player. Take things further. Get an emotional reaction out of your victim by heavily accusing them of scum backed by whatever evidence you have. It should be 50% evidence, 50% accusation. You should make it clear to your suspect that you will never change your mind about them, and you will do anything to get them lynched, every day, every page, every damn post. This will work to your advantage. Keep the ball on your court, rob the scum of their dominance and place them in a frame of survival. This way, you are exploiting the maximum bussing potential of a scumteam.
3. Do not justify your focus. Never justify your single-mindedness. If you present it as part of your personality, players will likely just go with it. Present your case and state your intentions, but never justify the jewel of your focal point. The reason for this is simple: you want to make the game about your victim, not about your obsessiveness with that person. The line between the two is slim but it makes a world of difference.
abr is hard. my read is more about what i think he'd doing as scum than what he is actually doing. which is probably a bad way to read a slot.
NorwegianboyEE wrote:I can easily compromise on Nahdia though. Unless anyone claims that they vigged Hoctac it's just too suspicious that they supposedly targeted there. VOTE: Nahdia
will you reconsider on popopo once you're wrong on me
most of your day 2 posts are low effort with no real substance and thats the same for your arguments as to why we shouldnt lynch nahdia so why would anyone want to listen to you
In post 931, popopopopopopo wrote:i wrote the book on midway scum this game, and i am telling you nahdia is the better lynch.
In post 932, midwaybear wrote:lmao
nahdia literally defended me from pox7's case, and now they are voting me.
comedy
kinda seems like it's you or me, my dude.
also like, i have been misrepped a Thousand Times this game, so let me state again, i was not defending you. i was calling popopopo's case a scumcase. that is not a defense of you.
In post 936, Nahdia wrote:p cool how you conveniently gloss over that though. whatever. no biggie.
In post 1907, midwaybear wrote:ok, I'm actually going to defend myself but give me some time
no hurry
When do we get this Midway?
I’m procrastinating
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:07 am
by midwaybear
It seems D2 I flip flopped about nahdia a lot. Initially I pushed, but then I defended. The wagon already was past the point of no return when I defended Nahdia, so there was no scum motivation for me to do that.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:35 am
by Madonna
In post 1920, Aloratom wrote:I appreciate you laying it out in that form. You are correct that your ISO does not do it justice. If I disregard the "yes and no" lead in to 1753 and pause at "so it is not true," I believe I understand where you are coming from. And I see that you were and are trying to be transparent in your thought process. I see now where I was incorrectly assigning you a view that you do not hold. I think I saw what I wanted to see in an effort to find a bad guy.
This is the kind of dialogue I've been asking the Town leaders to engage in with the VTs so that Plan A is executed with the best information.
Aloratom's 1920 shows he can work in good faith, so despite that also being one thing he needs to show in order to survive, it is also a pro-town move to see a situation from another's perspective and admit possible error.
What I got from word321's 1922 is that popopopopopopo might be scum for being too on the nose. He nails Nahdia, he was anti-Albert B. Rampage until a claim, and though he pushed midwaybear, we still have not killed midwaybear so it may have been bussing.
I see both Aloratom and word321 coming up with theories and trying to work with others. I do not see that in midwaybear and I note that lynching him is an easy way of exploring the idea midwaybear and popopopopopopo being partners.
ND likely won’t be alive unless votato aliens.
Votato, you should alien ND tonight. Norwee’s claim I don’t really trust. ND, you said that he was really confident in a scum flip. That could be because he is scum himself.
pox7 seems fine tbh. Look at word, alor, Madonna.
Yeah, I don’t really want him to die though. Actually, he probably should shoot.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:09 am
by word321
(expired on 2020-06-10 21:00:00)
There there is intent to lynch; we should wrap things up for now. I feel I am blatantly being ignored, so Id rather have the prs wrap it up and do whatever they want at this point. Dnt think Ill put any more effort in the game.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:54 am
by Aloratom
In post 1948, word321 wrote:(expired on 2020-06-10 21:00:00)
There there is intent to lynch; we should wrap things up for now. I feel I am blatantly being ignored, so Id rather have the prs wrap it up and do whatever they want at this point. Dnt think Ill put any more effort in the game.