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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:43 pm
by midwaybear
unwnd please put me in for pinkball
I'm desperate to be neighborized

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:44 pm
by unwnd
In post 1919, springlullaby wrote:
In post 1914, unwnd wrote:VOTE: Quiz Team Of: unwnd, TrueSoulEnergy, NDMath, Pink Ball

My reasoning is as follows: In conjunction with the plan that was described earlier, I want to use this quiz as a process of elimination. NDMath is a player who I've remained unsure of. TrueSoulEnergy has been jumping up and downa bout NDMath being basically confirmed town. That relationship to me is interesting in light of NDMath perpetually ignoring this. I want to see how they would act in an environment (or potentially) that they have to work together. I also wonder if locking NDMath into a room will get him to open up a bit more. I also think that this team is controversial. Good. If scum is just following town's directions all they have to do is nod their head and agree. I don't agree with The Plan because yesterday we followed a plan and it fell flat on our faces. I hope this plan frustrates or excites you, because I will be looking into each individual reaction.
Why did you not put beeboy in there?
Because beeboy is right that it doesn't matter if he's there or not. I think proxy'ing him would be a waste because I can pretty much proxy anyone I want to. I understand increasing our odds but for me we have numbers to still play with therefore I want to take risks.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:45 pm
by Raya36
why desperate to be neighborized?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:45 pm
by Starbuck
In post 1925, midwaybear wrote:unwnd please put me in for pinkball
I'm desperate to be neighborized
Umm why?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:46 pm
by midwaybear
also, I thought we were doing quiz team after passing the chain
anyways, why pink ball?
pedit: it'll be fun@raya, starbuck

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:49 pm
by springlullaby
In post 1926, unwnd wrote: Because beeboy is right that it doesn't matter if he's there or not. I think proxy'ing him would be a waste because I can pretty much proxy anyone I want to. I understand increasing our odds but for me we have numbers to still play with therefore I want to take risks.
I'm ok with that team actually.

But I don't understand why you wouldn't want to surefire you ability in this case:
- even if beeboy is scum, you increase town chance of passing the quiz by 1/4
- you can't be sure you won't get NK/DK'd once you are no longer bulletproof.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:50 pm
by midwaybear
In post 1909, unwnd wrote:I'm not sure when the numbers thin out for quizzes but it is inevitable.
unwnd what did you mean by this?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:50 pm
by beeboy
Deny


booo run back the quiz / keep some old members.
NDmath is asking for a failed attempt.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:51 pm
by unwnd
In post 1924, Raya36 wrote:
In post 1914, unwnd wrote:VOTE: Quiz Team Of: unwnd, TrueSoulEnergy, NDMath, Pink Ball

My reasoning is as follows: In conjunction with the plan that was described earlier, I want to use this quiz as a process of elimination. NDMath is a player who I've remained unsure of. TrueSoulEnergy has been jumping up and downa bout NDMath being basically confirmed town. That relationship to me is interesting in light of NDMath perpetually ignoring this. I want to see how they would act in an environment (or potentially) that they have to work together. I also wonder if locking NDMath into a room will get him to open up a bit more. I also think that this team is controversial. Good. If scum is just following town's directions all they have to do is nod their head and agree. I don't agree with The Plan because yesterday we followed a plan and it fell flat on our faces. I hope this plan frustrates or excites you, because I will be looking into each individual reaction.
The only one I'm not happy with is NDMath but I can get behind trying to get him to speak more with this method.
Explain how this team will help with PoE
I think that trying to stack the deck in our favor right now is the wrong choice. We have plenty of mislynches and plenty of chains to get through. From what I understand, TSE/ND are both talked about players but always seem to be missing the brunt of discussion. I also want to see each retrospective reaction to being a team with one another.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:51 pm
by unwnd
In post 1932, beeboy wrote:
Deny


booo run back the quiz / keep some old members.
NDmath is asking for a failed attempt.
I don't like him either, but I want to figure out if it's because I'm right or if he's just weird.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:52 pm
by midwaybear
In post 1932, beeboy wrote:NDmath is asking for a failed attempt.
Stop scumreading him due to inactivity.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:52 pm
by Raya36
The night isn't long. What if NDMath fails to even PM the mod

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:52 pm
by unwnd
In post 1931, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1909, unwnd wrote:I'm not sure when the numbers thin out for quizzes but it is inevitable.
unwnd what did you mean by this?
I'm pretty sure the number for amount of people on the quiz goes down as the game goes on.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:53 pm
by unwnd
In post 1936, Raya36 wrote:The night isn't long. What if NDMath fails to even PM the mod
Spoiler:
I want to proxy him

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:53 pm
by Raya36
Alright

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:55 pm
by springlullaby
For everyone's information: I asked the mod whether chainleader could lie about quiz team size, the answer was NO COMMENT. Please verify.

I'm thinking that from a setup perspective, the quiz team size is proportional to town natural scum/town odds which is 3/13.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:56 pm
by Starbuck
All we have to do is wait for the mod to do a vote count. If it isn't the correct size, I'm sure the mod would let us know there.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:57 pm
by midwaybear
so you propose this team to see ND and TSE interact? OK
and how does it help with POE as raya said?
why pink ball?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:57 pm
by unwnd
So I just asked the mod something and I think this is important to state

Being on the quiz does
NOT
make you immune to being lynched by chain.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:58 pm
by beeboy
In post 1943, unwnd wrote:So I just asked the mod something and I think this is important to state

Being on the quiz does
NOT
make you immune to being lynched by chain.
You're asking the wrong questions.
Being lynched by not being on the quiz still fails the quiz.

So you're still giving NDMath lynch immunity if we play smart.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:00 pm
by unwnd
In post 1944, beeboy wrote:
In post 1943, unwnd wrote:So I just asked the mod something and I think this is important to state

Being on the quiz does
NOT
make you immune to being lynched by chain.
You're asking the wrong questions.
Being lynched by not being on the quiz still fails the quiz.

So you're still giving NDMath lynch immunity if we play smart.
Yeah she just gave that to me. My brain was working(?) and I was wondering if I could game the system a bit I guess. :(

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:01 pm
by unwnd
Mod wrote:he Chainleader will also nominate a group of players to go on a quiz. Players can vote to approve or deny this pairing. If the group is denied the chain leader must make a new team.
This team can always be denied by the way, and I can always fall back on me+beeboy. It's not just trying to get the others to interact with each other, it's also the room's response to the quiz, along with the people selected.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:04 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 1914, unwnd wrote:VOTE: Quiz Team Of: unwnd, TrueSoulEnergy, NDMath, Pink Ball

My reasoning is as follows: In conjunction with the plan that was described earlier, I want to use this quiz as a process of elimination. NDMath is a player who I've remained unsure of. TrueSoulEnergy has been jumping up and downa bout NDMath being basically confirmed town. That relationship to me is interesting in light of NDMath perpetually ignoring this. I want to see how they would act in an environment (or potentially) that they have to work together. I also wonder if locking NDMath into a room will get him to open up a bit more. I also think that this team is controversial. Good. If scum is just following town's directions all they have to do is nod their head and agree. I don't agree with The Plan because yesterday we followed a plan and it fell flat on our faces. I hope this plan frustrates or excites you, because I will be looking into each individual reaction.
/Accept


I like this team.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:05 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
While Unwnd can be scum making a big brain play.
If they Sheep me and bus Farside and Starbuck Assuming that’s the scum team then I’m down to lose to that.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:05 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
But I’m pretty sure at that time I’d figure out their mafia depending on whom they Night Kill.