Micro 952 - The Coalition: ItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Deimos27]

I'll just wait for players to materialize for now, rather than speculating on strategy too much beforehand and opening doors to WIFOM.

[Wug]

that flavor in 1841 is lovely

in retrospect clover was right that he should be off coalition

That’s kind of a weird NK

yes

I think deimos is pretty definitely town

also yes

D&D opener reads town for not really having any game context. Scum!D&D at least reads the scum PT and gets stuff from that.

it's not hard to play dumb

(i think dd is town because i thought sleeper was town tho)

I mean, if Pooky is town then you are scum and I'll be trying to execute you tomorrow, yes.
But I don't think you're scum. You should go look at how hard I tried to stop Clover from getting executed and come to the conclusion that I'm town here.

true if pooky is scum
if pooky is town then it doesn't matter as much

In his 'oh well I'm dead' post, Pooky set up to argue that I'm scum even if Clover was town

where's this

ald case

good case

[Wug]

scum on coalition: pooky > dd > klick
scum off coalition: ald > don > deimos

might change my mind about dd-klick order

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I didn't think I'd be alive now, I went to bed with 4 votes on me and thought I would've woken up dead and instead woke up to Clover flipping town - which honestly sucked even harder for me than getting executed there.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't think I can really explain the wild rollercoaster of emotion when I opened up the pm from Datisi - like I was half awake and literally ecstatic seeing that Clover somehow miraculously got lynched instead of me - that lasted about half a second before I clicked on reveal his role and found out he was a townie and felt so totally fucked at that piint

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I did a ton of thinking about whether it makes sense for Klick to play this way as scum and now I'm not so sure he's scum as I did yesterday when I was writing out my last will - especially now with Koba getting nightkilled - I feel like we are almost getting set up for a TvT deathmatch here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

anyway I totally fk'd up on Clover so I understand you guys all want me dead - I'll be here to answer any questions or whatever but I'm gonna rethink who the scum is on the coalition because the NK on Koba is really weird given that I'm probably the execute today.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if sleepersoul is scum here I won't even get to tell him he did a good job snowing me that kinda sucks

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

klick real talk are you a baddie?

[Klick]

no

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well that means I really bungled day 1 huh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this game is wild

[Dumb and Dumber]

VOTE: Pooky
Quicklynch pls

This is what made me a little warier.

Klick, can you give us a quick Pooky case? My understanding is that from my PoV, it's a 1v1 between you two.

He pushed through the obvtown Clover vote yesterday who no one really thought was scum, while ALSO setting up for suspecting me after it went through. When he was at L-1 he posted an 'I give up, go town' post to try and get people to jump off his wagon.

This feels like weak reasoning by itself. I read through the last few posts overnight and thought they actually looked towny.

[Dumb and Dumber]

Intrigued that scum chose to kill Chemist over a stealth hydra.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

DnD are you mafia?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the chemist kill just makes no sense with how the game is set up

[Dumb and Dumber]

DnD are you mafia?

that's for you to figure out

ill go read up what happened around coalition time, see what led to pooky's inclusion then

[DonCorleone]

Pooky just say your reads so we can end the day

[DonCorleone]

the chemist kill just makes no sense with how the game is set up

I mean, it does if you’re scum?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why would I kill chemist if I'm scum?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky just say your reads so we can end the day

I really quite baffled by the NK I don't see why scum would do it - even if they wanted to force Klick v Me 1v1 we were already heading to that by end of day yesterday

[DonCorleone]

Because you knew you were very likely to die today so if:

(1) your partner is out of the coalition, it leaves that pool as large as possible on D3/D4

(2) if your partner is in coalition, it WIFOMs whether you’d both kill in the coalition and make it 2/3 to hit scum today

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean, it does if you’re scum?

like think about it,

if I'm scum - and I expect to get lynched today - doesn't it make sense to keep Koba/Chemist alive as a mis-exec?

I'm the only person who defended him when he went to L-1 -> me flipping scum makes him look bad

He didn't vote on either me or Clover Day 1 - could very well fit the profile of someone who doesn't want to help his scumbuddy vote off a townie or be responsible for a D1 scum lynch.

The only thing going against it is the D1 Koba/Pooky slap fight and make up - which you could argue is scum-theater given Pooky flipping town.

Like why would I even bother defending Koba if I'm just going to shoot him at night?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Because you knew you were very likely to die today so if:

(1) your partner is out of the coalition, it leaves that pool as large as possible on D3/D4

(2) if your partner is in coalition, it WIFOMs whether you’d both kill in the coalition and make it 2/3 to hit scum today

(1) if I flip scum - you don't know where my partner is - scum flip inside coalition does not clear rest of the coalition.

(2) I mean your point 2 kind of disproves your point 1

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait so re-reading your thing again

It's basically saying in both situations regardless of where the scum lie - there is a reasonable choice for killing - its either a positive or a negative trick -

If there's 2 scum on Coalition - shooting on coalition is to WIFOM the town into not looking at the Coalition
If there's 1 scum on Coalition - its to keep the Off-Coalition Pool as big as possible.

So basically it's just circular logic - depending on what reality is - it has a different meaning.