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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:46 pm
by Titus
In post 1922, jks wrote:I don't think catboi makes much sense as scum with MariaR. Have you looked at their interactions?
Nothing from the VCs excludes them as partners. I am not wedded to catboi is scum. I could go back to Creature if I am not alone. I just feel like it has to be one of those two.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:00 pm
by Creature
Titus, as much I want you to be right on catboi here, I have to be direct: I don't trust your reads are good.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:00 pm
by Creature
Like, that selfwagon still feels like an easy bullshit theater scum can pull.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:01 pm
by Creature
I'll give cred to your catboi read and say I'm between jks and catboi.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:03 pm
by Creature
We have two days and 16 hours. I'm hesitant to vote for anyone other than jks but maybe we can negotiate.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:09 pm
by jks
Where does your town read on Donkey Kong come from?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:10 pm
by Creature
Role makes more sense as town
Donkey getting into a fight with catboi
TSE looking too demotivated to be scum
General carelessness from Donkey Kong
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:12 pm
by jks
I'm not really talking about VCs, just their general interactions. Have you read through any scum ISOs or looked at how they interacted with others?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:13 pm
by jks
In post 1931, Creature wrote:Role makes more sense as town
Donkey getting into a fight with catboi
TSE looking too demotivated to be scum
General carelessness from Donkey Kong
Which of those did you think was "wtftowny"?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:13 pm
by Creature
Half tempted to just "fuck it" on catboi
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:14 pm
by Creature
Like, this game is pretty much an SK game based on how disorganized scum was.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:15 pm
by Creature
Jks, if LyLo is inevitable, who you absolutely don't want to have to sort in LyLo?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:22 pm
by jks
Eh, TrueSoulEnergy looks pretty null. A couple reads but no real explanation or followup.
As far as being demotivated goes, virtually the entire game replaced out. Most of the game was demotivated D1. Why do you think TrueSoulEnergy's lack of motivation is town?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:24 pm
by jks
What's this referring to?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:59 pm
by Creature
In post 1937, jks wrote:Eh, TrueSoulEnergy looks pretty null. A couple reads but no real explanation or followup.
As far as being demotivated goes, virtually the entire game replaced out. Most of the game was demotivated D1. Why do you think TrueSoulEnergy's lack of motivation is town?
Idk I think TSE would've been happier playing as scum than seeming unsettled this game
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:06 pm
by catboi
I don't think he did enough for it to be alignment telling either way although some of his content was awkward
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:13 pm
by catboi
see i'm not sure the carelessness is necessarily telling either! buuuuuut both scum actually did try to deflect onto him at different moments, and while the second time was very wifom-y (when maria was caught), he might've just been a convenient nothingposter they were saving for later. shrug
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:45 pm
by Creature
In post 1430, mastina wrote: In post 1400, MariaR wrote: In post 1399, catboi wrote:like in a hypothetical scenario where we eliminate aristophanes and he flips town are people going to re-evaluate me or just keep clinging to the same lazy reads
Until you give better reasons for who scum is then I'll stick to my lazy reads <3
MariaR you know Ari. You've literally played dozens of games with him.
Does this look like a typical Ari-scumgame or a typical Ari-towngame? By far it's the latter.
Beyond that, Tipsy, contrary to the case beeboy made against them, was far from lurking. Tipsy was by far one of the most active players in the game. As a replacement on midway through D1, Tipsy managed to get one of the longest isos in the game, was engaging on multiple fronts, engaging with multiple people, and was actively trying to solve.
The Tipsy/Aristophanes slot here just isn't scum.
I've maintained that you're town the entire game, and that Chemist is town the entire game.
That leaves Creature/JacksonVirgo/Mikul, catboi, Donkey Kong, jks, Titus, Panzer, and beeboy.
This is pretty damn obviously Creature's towngame, JacksonVirgo was townsolving while he was here, and Mikul was also town. So it's not him.
Which leaves six slots for three scum:
catboi, jks, Titus, Panzer, beeboy, and Donkey Kong.
You yourself admit beeboy/Panzer almost assuredly has at least one scum in it and Titus raises a good point that it could be (and probably is) two.
Which means there'd be 1-2 scum in {catboi, jks, Titus, Donkey Kong}.
We're not lynching Titus today for the same reason we're not lynching beeboy today; role related reasons to put off their death for at least half of a phase.
Since we're not lynching beeboy or Titus today, that leaves us with the following lynch options:
{catboi, jks, Panzer, Donkey Kong}.
It's my belief that catboi is town; it's my belief that jks is town.
Not very helpful
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:45 pm
by Creature
Do I trust mastina one more time?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:48 pm
by Creature
Fuck this game tbh
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:49 pm
by Creature
Can we at least lock Titus and I town?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:58 pm
by Titus
In post 1932, jks wrote:
I'm not really talking about VCs, just their general interactions. Have you read through any scum ISOs or looked at how they interacted with others?
That's not usually how I scumhunt.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:00 pm
by catboi
I'll locktown you for this
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:13 pm
by catboi
NGL while I'd like to be free of this I'd be pissed if I got MLed for crap reasons after fighting it off for almost two months when anyone with a seensible look at the evidence should know i'm town by now
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:17 pm
by Titus
In post 1948, catboi wrote:NGL while I'd like to be free of this I'd be pissed if I got MLed for crap reasons after fighting it off for almost two months when anyone with a seensible look at the evidence should know i'm town by now
This is how I feel.
I feel that scum set me up and then fucked up in the execution. Ever since I made the calls that had to be made, there's been a gun to my head. No one else is making the calls.
I don't see any evidence you or Creature is town though. I empathize but empathy isn't evidence.