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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:45 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1921, Menalque wrote:wasn't sure because I had that series of posts with lilith talking about how my interactions with JV are absolutely nothing like what they'd look like if we were scum together, but are exactly what they'd look like if I were scum trying to set up an innocent JV to go down after me
Yeah, I know. If you are scum I won't really be attempting to read into anything you did today, for exactly that reason.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:45 am
by Menalque
is it not possible or even plausible that scum targeted me for the NK as a generally fairly strong player who's annoying to try and kill via dayplay, and who they thought was unlikely to have the doctor on them (in the case that scum are aware there's a doctor in play)?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:46 am
by Menalque
In post 1925, Something_Smart wrote: In post 1921, Menalque wrote:wasn't sure because I had that series of posts with lilith talking about how my interactions with JV are absolutely nothing like what they'd look like if we were scum together, but are exactly what they'd look like if I were scum trying to set up an innocent JV to go down after me
Yeah, I know. If you are scum I won't really be attempting to read into anything you did today, for exactly that reason.
it's already in your head tho
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:46 am
by Menalque
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 am
by skitter30
In post 1926, Menalque wrote:is it not possible or even plausible that scum targeted me for the NK as a generally fairly strong player who's annoying to try and kill via dayplay, and who they thought was unlikely to have the doctor on them (in the case that scum are aware there's a doctor in play)?
Eh i guess fair enough. Not sure how much the rest of the pl would think that way tho ^
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 am
by skitter30
I really want to resolve my lilith read
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:49 am
by skitter30
Maybe i'm like horrifically tunneled but i'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around town!lilith
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:50 am
by Menalque
I'll check lil tonight if I don't get killed during the day and if she doesn't jail me again
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:54 am
by skitter30
Mena at this point it's incredibly obvious that's a fakeclam: you literaly never protested losing a result by being rb'd, ans didnt start the day wondering what happened to your result
Also i forgot that was a thing
Also lilith did u take his fakeclaim into account when you were deciding to target him?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:55 am
by davesaz
In post 1908, Menalque wrote:so scum... intentionally nuke their chances of having good PRs... allowing them to be caught or eliminated by town having a BOUNTY of PRs... for some WIFOM... that evaporates in usefulness the second one of them gets caught/tracked/whatever, or they just get PoE'd? that's what you're saying you think scum did in the draft phase?
If they're a good talker and someone who gets townread for saying nothing, absolutely possible they'd double numbers and expect to not get caught. Someone whose legend makes them invulnerable to a PoE and unlikely to be targeted for an investigation because they yammer on about how scum must have gone for PRs. What better way to make TPRs waste their time than by yelling that all scum are singletons?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:56 am
by Menalque
that's what I want them to think
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:57 am
by Menalque
hypothetically skitt, if it IS a fakeclaim, what's the benefit to pointing that out as opposed to acting like you think it's serious to try to bait scum into NKing me (which also resolves the problem of needing to sort my slot on play)
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:58 am
by davesaz
In post 1919, Something_Smart wrote:
Why not?
I'm definitely considering it. Menalque is a strong player, and not many people expressed a scumread of him before today.
Because I expect kills to aim for PRs. <If you doubt this just remember that I'm totally a mechanics based player>
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:00 am
by skitter30
Your play already belied it's fake, there's no point pretending, i dont you suddenly acting the part again amd me believing it is what's going to tip the scale on you being likely to be nk'd or not
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:01 am
by skitter30
In post 1931, skitter30 wrote:Maybe i'm like horrifically tunneled but i'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around town!lilith
Does anybody townread lilith on play ???
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:02 am
by Menalque
In post 1938, skitter30 wrote:Your play already belied it's fake, there's no point pretending, i dont you suddenly acting the part again amd me believing it is what's going to tip the scale on you being likely to be nk'd or not
eh, that's probably fair, yeh I am VT
no
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:03 am
by Menalque
^that said, I do think her claiming a JK on me as scum is at the very least quite an ~out there~ thing to do if she's scum
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:04 am
by Menalque
S_S, what is your read on me at this point anyway?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:04 am
by lilith2013
In post 1877, lilith2013 wrote:again (? actually not sure if I've said this explicitly) I just assumed that anyone low in the draft pick didn't get a PR, which is why I thought it was safe to JK you in the first place.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:28 am
by petapan
yeah it doesn't seem a likely play at all
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:29 am
by davesaz
If you're asking about reading her on her posting, no I'm not reading her at all. Very null on posting.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:15 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1931, skitter30 wrote:Maybe i'm like horrifically tunneled but i'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around town!lilith
I feel like the only thing I can offer here is that it's probably true that lilith's townrange is bigger than you think it is? Especially when she's a PR in an unusual setup and she was playing intentionally under the radar and she had RL issues.
I think the way she's played her role has been fairly towny, and besides, she's got a strong enough role that it doesn't make sense to kill her early anyway-- if she's scum and we manage to kill both of her partners, then she basically autoloses, and she can't really use her role in a scummy way (i.e. blocking town PR's) since she's claimed it.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:17 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1937, davesaz wrote:Because I expect kills to aim for PRs. <If you doubt this just remember that I'm totally a mechanics based player>
I'm a mechanics based player too, but that doesn't prevent me from acknowledging that not everyone thinks as mechanically as I do. Just because you wouldn't kill Menalque doesn't mean nobody would.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:22 am
by Something_Smart
On play probably slightly leaning town?
Factoring in mechanics probably slightly leaning scum because I do think that, if lilith did stop the kill, it's more likely that you tried to kill and were blocked than that you were the kill target, especially now that you claimed VT.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:34 am
by Menalque