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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:54 am

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In post 1923, Blade Dancer wrote:Because it's hard enough to convince you to actually get off your high horse, sneaking in a hammer on scum might be the only way to do it.

As for distancing away from the names you mentioned, I won't because that's most likely the town team. I have minor Alch reservations, but I'd put Alch town over non elim atm.
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:03 am

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Simple solution

No elim when he comes on it will vote someone.

If no elim votes outer we elim outer.
If outer flips scum then we know it’s 4 scum in you FL Outer and one of Alch/no elim.
If outer flips town then we know it’s NPOM+BM+no elim/Alch.

If no elim votes NPOM and you hammer
If that’s scum then we mechanically prove a scum on NPOM and therefore prolly win.
If that’s town gg you and the other three win.
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:05 am

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And if it doesn’t vote then NPOM +BM + No elim confirmed
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:16 am

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And what happens when he lurks it out?

Can you just actually do the simple thing and listen? We don't need to blow our last miselimination if you just compromise.
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:19 am

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As I said that’s a scum claim if it does that.

I am listening. I am just also doing CYB. If it is NPOM+BM we reveal both today. What’s the issue with forcing two scum to out?
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:26 am

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In post 1926, MathBlade wrote:Simple solution

No elim when he comes on it will vote someone.

If no elim votes outer we elim outer.
If outer flips scum then we know it’s 4 scum in you FL Outer and one of Alch/no elim.
If outer flips town then we know it’s NPOM+BM+no elim/Alch.

If no elim votes NPOM and you hammer
If that’s scum then we mechanically prove a scum on NPOM and therefore prolly win.
If that’s town gg you and the other three win.
@no elim You need to vote. Vote between NPOM and Outer.
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:36 am

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In post 1929, MathBlade wrote:As I said that’s a scum claim if it does that.

I am listening. I am just also doing CYB. If it is NPOM+BM we reveal both today. What’s the issue with forcing two scum to out?
The issue is burning our miselimination. I still have extreme paranoia over the third.

As much as I hate to say it, no elim may not actually be around. It would be so easy to go black and white. Yet we've seen that people not doing what we want doesn't make them scum.

We need that miselimination.
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:38 am

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In post 1931, Titus wrote:
In post 1929, MathBlade wrote:As I said that’s a scum claim if it does that.

I am listening. I am just also doing CYB. If it is NPOM+BM we reveal both today. What’s the issue with forcing two scum to out?
The issue is burning our miselimination. I still have extreme paranoia over the third.

As much as I hate to say it, no elim may not actually be around. It would be so easy to go black and white. Yet we've seen that people not doing what we want doesn't make them scum.

We need that miselimination.
Then we wait. Wait out the prod dodge timer then wait for a replacement. Hyperposting isn’t required in a mafia game. By not posting we can force it to vote.
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:41 am

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Sure, we can wait for the hopes that one of the scumteam bussed. That's possible but unlikely.

We likely need a mason to get a scum execution off. FYPOV, passing the choice onto non elim isn't good enough. It says you'll lend your mason support behind an outer execution but not a NPOM one.
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:45 am

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In post 1933, Titus wrote:Sure, we can wait for the hopes that one of the scumteam bussed. That's possible but unlikely.

We likely need a mason to get a scum execution off. FYPOV, passing the choice onto non elim isn't good enough. It says you'll lend your mason support behind an outer execution but not a NPOM one.
Maybe I will maybe I won’t.

That’s for no elim to sort if it’s scum.
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:15 am

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Blade Dancer = Titus?
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:20 am

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In post 1935, Rannygazoo wrote:Blade Dancer = Titus?
Correct. Sometimes when people have hydra / alt accounts and forget to switch they quote the post as a way to say “Oops that was me”
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:32 am

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No Elims scum, why are we waiting on their pick?
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:33 am

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No elim already chose when they shaded me earlier.
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:33 am

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Zero chance No elim votes NPOM.
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:34 am

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They could be town, I’m aware, but like i said, yeah, no chance they pick NPOM.
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:38 am

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Because this forces them to engage in the game. The slot has been dead for a while. I want them to do something.
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:01 am

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In post 1887, Titus wrote:
In post 1886, MathBlade wrote:@Titus why are you not voting NPOM? I think I missed that.
Because I was a) holding out for BM and b) was going to quick hammer if you voted him.

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weren't you voting me for hammering yesterday? (although it wasn't exactly quick, and was very much facilitated by superbowl) :lol:
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:05 am

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In post 1908, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.
Hey BM why do you think this would be obvious to scum or to anyone? I didn’t see where you crumbed it.
lol! maybe ask Flavor Leaf or Titus since they both picked up on it. i was hinting at it for numerous posts today, after I figured there was a risk we wouldn't elim OWER unless I gave a bit more help.
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:06 am

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also, i don't even have the paranoia of OWER-town in a weird setup with 2 town protectives and a roleblocker, given if that was the case scum would just have taken up my offer to elim him, then me.
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:09 am

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it's too bad that the game hinges on inactive players
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:10 am

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In post 1921, MathBlade wrote:Titus let me be blunt here. You’re acting an awful lot like a fourth scum and this is ELO.

I get both NPOM’s and BM’s claims are suspect as fuck. But the fact you’re literally waiting out in the wings for a quick hammer (your words) instead of voting NPOM when in your world there is no way I could be scum is sus as fuck.

You’re not even considering traitor which is normal, and I don’t know if the above is a slip.

Give me a reason by play you’re town here. Not mechanics. Play.
:facepalm: how on earth is Titus acting like it's ELO? and how is my claim remotely "suspect"?

I really hope, if my solve is right, you're just screwing around, and not actually going to throw the game for town.
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:12 am

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I feel like there is probably not one town player left alive who has played well, and virtually every town player who is dead, had a better showing.
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:14 am

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In post 1944, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1908, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.
Hey BM why do you think this would be obvious to scum or to anyone? I didn’t see where you crumbed it.
lol! maybe ask Flavor Leaf or Titus since they both picked up on it. i was hinting at it for numerous posts today, after I figured there was a risk we wouldn't elim OWER unless I gave a bit more help.
So you started crumbing it day 3?
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