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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:04 am
by petapan
ftr there's a very good chance T3 and titus are scum together and he was shitbussing her

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:05 am
by Titus
In post 1920, petapan wrote:
In post 495, petapan wrote:so, with regard to setup stuff, i would recommend looking at the roles in gypyx's previous two normal games:

mini 2169: random facts
mini 2180: fake peoples

gypyx is probably the most distinctive mod working in the normal queue right now, in that he really likes to play around with modifiers and combined roles and have atypical power distributions in his setups. expect claims to be wacky bullshit. here's a list of the town PRs in those games (avert your eyes here if you're DGB):

Town Combined Mailman Vanilla Cop
Role Watcher Neighbor
Town Ascetic Indecisive Doctor Neighbour

Town 1-shot Bulletproof Vengeful
Town Novice 3-shot Vigilante

Town Roaming Detective
Town Backup Roleblocker
Town Lazy Odd-night Tracker Even-night Motion Detector
Town Combined Roleblocker Friendly Neighbor
Town Disloyal Hider

in mini 2180, my scumteam was very easily able to exploit people making bad assumptions about the setup balance in order to get easy eliminations ("surely there aren't two investigative roles in the setup, right? that's too much town power"). i want to make sure that doesn't happen this game, so i'm informing people now so they don't go off making bad assumptions and getting weirded out by claims this game. you can bet your ass as scum i never out this because i'm the only one in this playerlist who's played in a game he's hosted, and keeping this sort of info hidden has significantly more benefit for scum as it allows people to make dumb assumptions about claims
this doesn't make the neighbor claim inherently town but giving scum an announcing PR would be pretty dumb
I played an announcing role as scum. Ironically, I faked babysitter that game.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:05 am
by Gypyx
In post 1922, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1794, T3 wrote:VOTE: anya
This is T3’s last vote.
thanks

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:07 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1905, Dwlee99 wrote:DotW claimed cop inno on dgb though.
Can you point me to this please?

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:07 am
by petapan
In post 1924, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1920, petapan wrote:this doesn't make the neighbor claim inherently town but giving scum an announcing PR would be pretty dumb
Has DGB not taught you anything? Hahaha don’t make mechanical assumptions you can’t possibly be sure of.
shrug don't care, i feel the roles are reasonably predictable here and it likely gets sorted out in mass claim

the case on anya was shit to begin with and never had substance beyond "she isn't posting and was trolling about the hood" which is convincing to the knuckleheads in this game but doesn't have a lot to do with actually being scum

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:08 am
by petapan
In post 1926, Titus wrote:I played an announcing role as scum. Ironically, I faked babysitter that game.
does announcing state the role type or just the visit?

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:08 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1929, petapan wrote:the case on anya was shit to begin with and never had substance beyond "she isn't posting and was trolling about the hood" which is convincing to the knuckleheads in this game but doesn't have a lot to do with actually being scum
I 100% agree with you there, which is why I’m fighting it. It’s a horrible “case” and a total stretch, and only makes sense from players that have literally never seen Anya play ever.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:09 am
by Titus
In post 1930, petapan wrote:
In post 1926, Titus wrote:I played an announcing role as scum. Ironically, I faked babysitter that game.
does announcing state the role type or just the visit?
Just the visit.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:09 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1929, petapan wrote:shrug don't care, i feel the roles are reasonably predictable here and it likely gets sorted out in mass claim
Oh and there was some sarcasm embedded in there. Sorry it wasn’t completely obvious haha

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:10 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1773, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 1755, Dwlee99 wrote:DGB + DotW + Titus all just insisting they are a town block gives me the heeby jeebies.
In case people ever need to come back to this to solve the game, I can only confirm DGB and myself as town. Titus is just a read right now
I interpreted this an inno result @andre

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:11 am
by Titus
In post 1931, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1929, petapan wrote:the case on anya was shit to begin with and never had substance beyond "she isn't posting and was trolling about the hood" which is convincing to the knuckleheads in this game but doesn't have a lot to do with actually being scum
I 100% agree with you there, which is why I’m fighting it. It’s a horrible “case” and a total stretch, and only makes sense from players that have literally never seen Anya play ever.
Disagree wholeheartedly but cannot explain why.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:12 am
by petapan
right, it would say voyeur

titus played a Loud role, not an Announcing one, different categories

anya is for sure a voyeur

the thing is we will likely know if anya was blocked by a town or mafia action

and considering she unsubtly softed a gunsmith type action scum would have ample reason to block her

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:12 am
by Titus
In post 1936, petapan wrote:and considering she unsubtly softed a gunsmith type action scum would have ample reason to block her
I totally missed this. Where were these?

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:14 am
by petapan
In post 1931, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1929, petapan wrote:the case on anya was shit to begin with and never had substance beyond "she isn't posting and was trolling about the hood" which is convincing to the knuckleheads in this game but doesn't have a lot to do with actually being scum
I 100% agree with you there, which is why I’m fighting it. It’s a horrible “case” and a total stretch, and only makes sense from players that have literally never seen Anya play ever.
all right cool rock on

who do you think is trying to latch on to the wagon as scum? i think dgb is likely just doing dgb-esque things where she just tunnels lurkers for lurking. i get why you didn't like the overconfidence but that's probably entirely stylistic
In post 1933, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1929, petapan wrote:shrug don't care, i feel the roles are reasonably predictable here and it likely gets sorted out in mass claim
Oh and there was some sarcasm embedded in there. Sorry it wasn’t completely obvious haha
oh no worries then lol

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:15 am
by Anya
oh yeah i forgot i did that

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:17 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1934, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1773, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 1755, Dwlee99 wrote:DGB + DotW + Titus all just insisting they are a town block gives me the heeby jeebies.
In case people ever need to come back to this to solve the game, I can only confirm DGB and myself as town. Titus is just a read right now
I interpreted this an inno result @andre
Well if you spotted this the Scum probably did too since it’s quite blatant.

I don’t think that comes from Scum, for what it’s worth.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:19 am
by VFP
UNVOTE: Anya

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:21 am
by petapan
In post 1937, Titus wrote:
In post 1936, petapan wrote:and considering she unsubtly softed a gunsmith type action scum would have ample reason to block her
I totally missed this. Where were these?
In post 397, Anya wrote:oops i just dropped my
491 revolver
that i use for cooking betting go into my workshop
gun room
so i can get a replacement before
petapan
does
i mean like maybe that could be interpreted as a vig but regardless probably an easy block target

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:21 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1938, petapan wrote:who do you think is trying to latch on to the wagon as scum? i think dgb is likely just doing dgb-esque things where she just tunnels lurkers for lurking. i get why you didn't like the overconfidence but that's probably entirely stylistic
I think Titus is Scum. If they caught the Cop crumb from DotW there with an Inno on DGB (seems likely), then attaching yourself to that group makes a lot of sense. DotW just seems way off to me so I understand it I suppose. Ugh I probably need to read this game again.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:22 am
by petapan
yeah i have isues with titus and her blaming lurkers for her own lack of content rings terribly hollow

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:25 am
by Titus
In post 1942, petapan wrote:
In post 1937, Titus wrote:
In post 1936, petapan wrote:and considering she unsubtly softed a gunsmith type action scum would have ample reason to block her
I totally missed this. Where were these?
In post 397, Anya wrote:oops i just dropped my
491 revolver
that i use for cooking betting go into my workshop
gun room
so i can get a replacement before
petapan
does
i mean like maybe that could be interpreted as a vig but regardless probably an easy block target
That only makes sense though if you're scum if you buy that as a crumb though. If it's a vig crumb, then they would let town!anya shoot town!peta. If it's a vig crumb, then town!anya would be blocked if scum peta. If it's a gs crumb, then town anya might be permitted to target town peta but never scum peta.

If it's scum anya, it's crumbs for a fake that DotW took off the table.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:25 am
by Save The Dragons
UNVOTE:

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:30 am
by Dwlee99
My most recent completed game had a town rolestopper so I could see that being a reason for no Anya result @titus.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:32 am
by petapan
also the thing where people go "claim weird, hmm might be fake, want to vote it anyway" is exactly what i did as scum in mini 2180 because it's very easy to abuse

voyeur isn't some particularly amazing role that would be a shame to lose (in fact it sucks ass) but given the announcing modifier it's at least verifiable, and scum will likely have to choose between blocking anya and targeting someone with an actually good pr night 2 so there's no point voting her

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:32 am
by petapan
In post 1945, Titus wrote:If it's scum anya, it's crumbs for a fake that DotW took off the table.
so she claims an announcing role instead? shut up titus