And I dont believe I've been acquainted with Mollie so if I came off as insulting them i am very sorry, i didnt intend for that. I dont know their style of play or which reads were theirs or anything like that
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:24 am
by Skybird
I think ND probably used Ari's to base his claim from.
Enchant, the way I am reading ND's win con is there are two groups in the game and he would have won if one person from each group was executed. I believe the two groups are kingdom and scum faction. The fact that we only had one kill last night means we had a serial killer and a scum faction. We executed the serial killer, hence only one night kill.
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:25 am
by Morning Tweet
i do actually think there was some significance to the weird wording of ND's wincon, although whether or not we can find it, maybe not. It just seems odd to frame an eliminatior that way.
I was mostly thinking about Tarou (wrong) and worst/ari (doesnt seem popular) over the night phase. I didnt really reread much so much as think because i couldnt bring myself to and also ive been quite the busy bat recently
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:30 am
by Morning Tweet
I know I'm a broken record by this point but can i please have it spoonfed to me why Ari cant just be following his apparent scum pattern. The claim doesnt mean anything to me now
Other than that, I need to see posts from roughly half the game to get anywhere. otherwise i am just going to stick to trusting what little confidence I have in the townreads i have and just try and pick right
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:31 am
by Enchant
In post 1926, Skybird wrote:I think ND probably used Ari's to base his claim from.
Enchant, the way I am reading ND's win con is there are two groups in the game and he would have won if one person from each group was executed. I believe the two groups are kingdom and scum faction. The fact that we only had one kill last night means we had a serial killer and a scum faction. We executed the serial killer, hence only one night kill.
What serial killer
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:35 am
by Enchant
OH I JUST REALISED I READED WRONG.
He seems had 2 names of one group and 2 names of other group, and he needed to eluminate one of these persons from both groups. Not 4 factions, ok.
One of these groups are Kingdom i am sure, others is probably scum. I can only wonder, why he didn't just claim real role and tell us two persons of scumteam for us to easy win for him and us.
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:38 am
by Dwlee99
Nothing in NDMath's win con says the alignments of those people
Also I want to know if anyone went to RR's party
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:06 am
by Skybird
No, I didn't go to his party. Did you?
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:08 am
by Dwlee99
If I did wouldn't I know what his party did
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:15 am
by Almost50
In post 1926, Skybird wrote:I think ND probably used Ari's to base his claim from.
Enchant, the way I am reading ND's win con is there are two groups in the game and he would have won if one person from each group was executed. I believe the two groups are kingdom and scum faction. The fact that we only had one kill last night means we had a serial killer and a scum faction. We executed the serial killer, hence only one night kill.
It's surprising how eaveryone reaches a different conclusion from the same Role PM! Like, where does it say ND had any killing abilities? He was a Condemner... a double-condemner if you will, and to make up for him needing not one but two eliminations to win he was given an alternative to each, so rather than the simple "eliminate A and walk out a winner" or the more complicated "Eliminate A & B to walk out a winner" he was given the choice to eliminate EITHER A or B And EITHER C OR D. And to help him out he could hand out a BP vest to someone who helps him out once.
What interests me more is WHO his "pool of targets" were. I reread his ISO and thought RR, Enchant, Yuki, MT & Pooky would probably contain all 4 "redacted names".
I also don't believe the pairs had to be from the same faction. They could have been, or it could have been 1 Town & 1 Scum for each pair. Even more, if we are in multi-ball it could have been Town+Faction A for one pair and Town+Faction B for the other. Like, who can tell?
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:21 am
by Titus
In post 1931, Dwlee99 wrote:Nothing in NDMath's win con says the alignments of those people
Also I want to know if anyone went to RR's party
My post office delayed my invitation along with my iguanas. The trip made them rather sensitive. I think they're scarred.
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:30 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I don't have a night action
and if I did I sure as hell wouldn't visit some party lol
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:22 am
by Radical Rat
In post 1926, Skybird wrote:The fact that we only had one kill last night means we had a serial killer and a scum faction. We executed the serial killer, hence only one night kill.
Except NDMath wasn't a serial killer?
I think what probably happened was both scumteams targeted Tarou because of its claim
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:25 am
by Radical Rat
I don't think NDMath's targets really matter much, but based on the whole dark magic thing, Ari/the worst was probably on the list.
In post 1926, Skybird wrote:The fact that we only had one kill last night means we had a serial killer and a scum faction. We executed the serial killer, hence only one night kill.
Except NDMath wasn't a serial killer?
I think what probably happened was both scumteams targeted Tarou because of its claim
Yeah, after re-reading it I realized I jumped to conclusions.
I'm inherently skeptical of gth lists from homesite experiences but probably will be interesting.
This list alone tells me Ari wasn't one of the 4 names on ND's execution list. Add the fact that ND never voted Ari (even when Ari came so close to being eliminated on D1) and never really pushed him either (the closest he got to that was "I don't really TR Ari BUT..." and I think it's evident (at least to me) that Ari wasn't one of ND's targets.
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:15 am
by Radical Rat
Yeah, you're probably right actually. I was just thinking about how he crafted a claim that seemed specifically designed to make people question the slot, didn't actually go look at his actual play in a broader context.
Still, it probably doesn't matter, since we don't have any indication being a target had anything to do with alignment
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:22 am
by Radical Rat
Honestly, I don't really know where to go today. I was naively expecting either a Town or a Scum flip, the condemner flip was both surprising and unhelpful.
