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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:51 am
by Three
In post 1923, HawaiianPizza wrote:but i was not around for EoD1?
and D2 quickhammer happened, i expected i would have enough time to deal with my zen/a50 reads after sleeping.
this is straight up false

lemme check my votes, maybe ill explain every vote i made
I did say you weren't around. Your EoD votes still give no info or stances though.

I agree that you should explain your votes, because I'm honestly not sure where you stood Days 1 and 2. I do think you could be town but I'm not getting much info from looking at your votes as is.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:02 am
by Three
Actually should we save that for tomorrow? If it makes you look townie then saving your vote explanations makes more sense so you don't get NK'd for your efforts.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:05 am
by HawaiianPizza
i was about to submit

um

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:07 am
by Dwlee99
Okay ascetic doesn't make sense then I guess. T3!town implies roleblocker I think

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:08 am
by HawaiianPizza
well, i guess i'll say my final vote being on you isn't that weird? i've offered some explanations.
and the a50 vote wasn't really made with the intent to eliminate.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:18 am
by Three
Just save your big post in a draft or a memo for tomorrow.

I'll just say that I don't necessarily scum read you Pizza, you're null PoE for me.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:23 am
by HawaiianPizza
okay ig

can some people talk about whether t3/dwlee is a possibility or not
i'm more certain on dwlee being scum than t3 tbh, the latter is mostly by association. idk how to deal with the claim.
i'm pretty confident on house/three being town. std and jacket are a bit WIP, assuming we do have more time on this day and no elim won't get hammered...
cough

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:53 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1931, HawaiianPizza wrote:whether t3/dwlee is a possibility or not
No

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:54 am
by Three
I feel good about StD. I don't want to hard town read Dwlee, but they've seemed solvey today and I've liked their mech talk. I could be wrong about T3, if no invests speak up tomorrow then I guess he's just town. I'm back and forth on Jacket, but I don't like that he's saying he'll snap vote tomorrow since if him and his target are both town then it's an instant loss for town. Which could just be a scum slip since this isn't the newbie queue and he should know better. And House is probably town just based off of Day 1 vibes. He did volunteer to get meta'd by T3 and I still think T3 should follow through on that.

Zen is just the Traitor in my eyes. And if it gets confirmed it would change my read on House since he's been hard defending him.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:23 am
by HawaiianPizza
In post 1932, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1931, HawaiianPizza wrote:whether t3/dwlee is a possibility or not
No
silence

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:26 am
by Save The Dragons
im not sure what to say i don't know if i have a good bead on this game

willing to no lim and see what happens tomorrow

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:36 am
by Jacket
In post 1933, Three wrote:I'm back and forth on Jacket, but I don't like that he's saying he'll snap vote tomorrow since if him and his target are both town then it's an instant loss for town. Which could just be a scum slip since this isn't the newbie queue and he should know better.
No shit? Of course I know that.

The way I see it, I can sit on my hands and wait for someone else to mess up while scum do their best to influence people to vote wrong, or I can take destiny into my own hands and force a 1v1. I think I know one mafia, that's all I need.

Way I see it, there's a few people who are openly broadcasting that they want to vote me. I don't think they're all mafia. That means scum know what the best kill is and will be angling to vote me, so I don't really expect to die. If I do not make the vote I want, scum will try to maneuver to get the vote they want. So the best thing I can do is to not let that happen.

You're not making sense. The game always ends if someone votes wrong tomorrow, doesn't matter if it's 1 minute into the day or an hour before deadline. Do you think anyone who makes the first vote in ELO is mafia, since the vote could lose the game? I don't understand your thinking.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:54 am
by Three
In post 1936, Jacket wrote:
In post 1933, Three wrote:I'm back and forth on Jacket, but I don't like that he's saying he'll snap vote tomorrow since if him and his target are both town then it's an instant loss for town. Which could just be a scum slip since this isn't the newbie queue and he should know better.
No shit? Of course I know that.

The way I see it, I can sit on my hands and wait for someone else to mess up while scum do their best to influence people to vote wrong, or I can take destiny into my own hands and force a 1v1. I think I know one mafia, that's all I need.

Way I see it, there's a few people who are openly broadcasting that they want to vote me. I don't think they're all mafia. That means scum know what the best kill is and will be angling to vote me, so I don't really expect to die. If I do not make the vote I want, scum will try to maneuver to get the vote they want. So the best thing I can do is to not let that happen.

You're not making sense. The game always ends if someone votes wrong tomorrow, doesn't matter if it's 1 minute into the day or an hour before deadline. Do you think anyone who makes the first vote in ELO is mafia, since the vote could lose the game? I don't understand your thinking.
I don't understand the point of voting no elimination today if you're just going to immediately fire from the hip tomorrow anyway. I assume you don't expect your scum read to die tonight, so what's stopping you from voting?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:10 am
by Jacket
Because I could be wrong and my scumread dies anyway, and because even if that doesn't happen, someone dying in the night narrows things down. Because unless there's a clear, you always vote no elim on ELO+1. This isn't the newbie queue, so you should know that.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:12 am
by Jacket
The amount of scumreads being thrown around based on the idea of "This person does not confirm to my ideal procedures for playing Mafia, therefore they are scum" is absurd.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:15 am
by House
In post 1938, Jacket wrote:Because I could be wrong and my scumread dies anyway, and because even if that doesn't happen, someone dying in the night narrows things down. Because unless there's a clear, you always vote no elim on ELO+1. This isn't the newbie queue, so you should know that.
Are you an alt?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:17 am
by Jacket
What do you think?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:24 am
by Jacket
I clearly know how to play the game, even if my reads are mostly bad. I know how normal setups work. Don't see why you need to know anything else.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:29 am
by Three
In post 1938, Jacket wrote:Because I could be wrong and my scumread dies anyway, and because even if that doesn't happen, someone dying in the night narrows things down. Because unless there's a clear, you always vote no elim on ELO+1. This isn't the newbie queue, so you should know that.
If you're town and you know you could be wrong and still want to instantly vote in ELo, then I'm sorry, but that's poor town play and you're just contradicting yourself.
In post 1939, Jacket wrote:The amount of scumreads being thrown around based on the idea of "This person does not confirm to my ideal procedures for playing Mafia, therefore they are scum" is absurd.
No one's saying you have to play in a certain ideal way. But do you really think the things you're saying don't read as scummy? Even a little bit?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:44 am
by House
In post 1941, Jacket wrote:What do you think?
I think you should answer my question.

It's not like I'm going to ask your main if you say yes.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:54 am
by T3
In post 1899, HawaiianPizza wrote:
In post 1897, House wrote:
In post 1896, HawaiianPizza wrote:well, i assume T3 hasnt claimed being roleblocked.
No result means either roleblock or *side eyes dwlee* ascetic.
what are T3's actions
got no result n1, got dwlee is not a neighbor n2

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:55 am
by T3
In post 1912, Jacket wrote:
In post 1844, T3 wrote:jacket is like 90% scum
Okay.
In post 1914, Jacket wrote:I know who I'm snapvoting tomorrow.
yikes

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:55 am
by Dwlee99
Was there a reason you checked me btw?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:57 am
by Dwlee99
After you answer that I'm gonna vote no lim and not discuss further. Have to rethink my tinfoil with jacket getting cookie's mail.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:00 am
by T3
In post 1947, Dwlee99 wrote:Was there a reason you checked me btw?
you were a lean scumread