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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:20 am
by furtiveglance
Prof is town guys

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:20 am
by T-Bone
I think I would have fought for you Prof, I tend to give townleans leeway when they do bad things. But you are basically the person who dismantled the Mastina wagon so I don't know what you expected to happen?

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:21 am
by MathBlade
In post 1925, furtiveglance wrote:Prof is town guys
I want to see where this goes

If he is town he’s sure not thinking logically.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:21 am
by T-Bone
After fighting with you and against you for weeks in Lost to see you give up here makes me think my townread is wrong tbh

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:23 am
by furtiveglance
In post 1927, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1925, furtiveglance wrote:Prof is town guys
I want to see where this goes

If he is town he’s sure not thinking logically.
I think the idea of rationality being +town might be slightly outdated.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:24 am
by Past Present Future
In post 1928, T-Bone wrote:After fighting with you and against you for weeks in Lost to see you give up here makes me think my townread is wrong tbh
Is this about Math or Prof?

~Titus

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:25 am
by MMR
Assuming prof.
-Rubella

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:26 am
by MathBlade
In post 1929, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1927, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1925, furtiveglance wrote:Prof is town guys
I want to see where this goes

If he is town he’s sure not thinking logically.
I think the idea of rationality being +town might be slightly outdated.
Drap is strategic scum

When he gave himself up in the cult game I was with him in it was to save Meg who I FoS’d.

Drap whatever his alignment has a reason for anything he does.

So to have him not it’s weird. It’s not alignment indicative just weird.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:26 am
by T-Bone
Being bad at mafia isn't a scumtell, and I think people voting for him for essentially that is sus. He shouldn't have moved his vote off his top scumread to start another vanity vote but a bad move is a bad move.

But on the flip side Prof is acting like he got caught for the wrong reasons. So like...?

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:26 am
by MathBlade
In post 1930, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1928, T-Bone wrote:After fighting with you and against you for weeks in Lost to see you give up here makes me think my townread is wrong tbh
Is this about Math or Prof?

~Titus
I didn’t survive weeks in lost.

I repped out of that game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:26 am
by T-Bone
In post 1930, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1928, T-Bone wrote:After fighting with you and against you for weeks in Lost to see you give up here makes me think my townread is wrong tbh
Is this about Math or Prof?

~Titus
About Prof. I was with Math most of Lost.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:27 am
by T-Bone
In post 1934, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1930, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1928, T-Bone wrote:After fighting with you and against you for weeks in Lost to see you give up here makes me think my townread is wrong tbh
Is this about Math or Prof?

~Titus
I didn’t survive weeks in lost.

I repped out of that game
No you got limmed day 2 before that happened

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:27 am
by MathBlade
I repped out before the elim actually

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:28 am
by furtiveglance
In post 1933, T-Bone wrote:Being bad at mafia isn't a scumtell, and I think people voting for him for essentially that is sus. He shouldn't have moved his vote off his top scumread to start another vanity vote but a bad move is a bad move.

But on the flip side Prof is acting like he got caught for the wrong reasons. So like...?
What points to 'caught for wrong reasons' to you?

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:28 am
by T-Bone
Yet you were still enshrined in that final VC oh well

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:28 am
by Past Present Future
In post 1931, MMR wrote:Assuming prof.
-Rubella
Me too but Math made similar comments after Calculus mafia. I don't want to hold such comments against Math re self meta but I'd lie if I said no flashback.

~Titus

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:31 am
by Radical Rat
Would I be horribly out of line in thinking this looks kinda like Drapion going "Well, throwing a fit worked for mastina, maybe it'll save me too!"?

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:31 am
by T-Bone
In post 1908, professotic wrote:Holy fuck why am I being voted when I solved the entire game.
In post 1912, professotic wrote:I claim Confirmability and people still vote me cause they want a town to be miss executed.

I’m done, I’m not gonna bother continuing with you all I have you all a solve and y’all being bad.

TicTac can save this 1-shot confirmable town role if they want but I’m not gonna bother when there is absolutely no reason town should be purposely wolf siding here like they are.
In post 1914, professotic wrote:HAVE FUN LOSING.

And if wolves are smart they avoid attacking the other wolves in my solve and just kill all the town cause clearly is like lol.
In post 1918, professotic wrote:Actually this is my last post here.
anyone who 180’s on me can easily be a wolf and it’ll probably be one of my wolves in my solves.
In post 1919, professotic wrote:Actually it will be.
And this is my last post.


I’m smart and I know how things work.
It's all of this Furtive. First its 'why am I being voted?' as if the rest of us should be surprised. Then it's "but I confirmed myself you can't do this", then finally the insistence that they are giving up. I feel like town!prof would fight harder, and I've seen it done in the past. Here he crumbles in the span of like 8 posts.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:34 am
by MathBlade
In post 1941, Radical Rat wrote:Would I be horribly out of line in thinking this looks kinda like Drapion going "Well, throwing a fit worked for mastina, maybe it'll save me too!"?
Not sure.

I wanna try to get in drap’s head

That type of posting would almost secure his elim/miselim.

Leaving a role claim and not expanding

Dropping reads and a last post.

It’s intentional but the question is why?

Was Mastina supposed to die and Drap credit?

I am trying to figure out why and spitting things out brainstorming.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:37 am
by MathBlade
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13525750

This is. Scum Drap intentionally dying for context

If he’s giving up the ghost so to speak it’s intentional so why

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:38 am
by T-Bone
In post 1941, Radical Rat wrote:Would I be horribly out of line in thinking this looks kinda like Drapion going "Well, throwing a fit worked for mastina, maybe it'll save me too!"?
Mastina is throwing a fit but in a different way. Mastina chose the "you will all be sorry" route. But yes, clearly it worked. I think she successfully wore people down into doing something else, but I figured she would. That's why I'd love to be scum playing against her tbh, she'll wear down people so I wouldn't have to.

I think anyone who wants to eliminate Prof in light of this is well within their rights to do so. It's anti-town play regardless of his alignment. I felt like he was town up until this moment. I quoted MMR before about thinking how weird it is for Prof to try and change the wagons at the last minute. But I have seen no hint that this is scum!Prof trying to keep Mastina in the game because its good for the game state. So I cannot explain the change to his Bunny vote except that maybe he was also feeling worn down by Mastina.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:39 am
by Past Present Future
In post 1944, MathBlade wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13525750

This is. Scum Drap intentionally dying for context

If he’s giving up the ghost so to speak it’s intentional so why
Can you give the pists where he dies deliberately for comparison?

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:40 am
by T-Bone
To add for that, just because I know as scum I would prefer Mastina to live doesn't mean I think all scum players would hold the same view. There's pros and cons and it depends I think your confidence as scum, and your confidence at managing a player who posts like Mastina. So I don't mean to suggest that is Prof's motivation, it's just one example I'm looking for.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:41 am
by Bunnyonce
Prof - I don’t think anyone’s votes here are immovable: I think you have a chance at convincing the thread your reads are right or genuine, if that’s something you want. I don’t know if this matters to you and it’s ok if it doesn’t, but if you come back and want to talk to us, I will read.

-Aisa

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:42 am
by MathBlade
In post 1946, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1944, MathBlade wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13525750

This is. Scum Drap intentionally dying for context

If he’s giving up the ghost so to speak it’s intentional so why
Can you give the pists where he dies deliberately for comparison?
There’s no one particular post. It’s based on the definition of the setup.
Meg was cult leader. I sussed her.
Drap made himself super suspect to die instead.

I was sussing on Meg cult D1.

Drapion said post game and scum PT he died instead.

He also is “honest” scum like me

So I want to figure out why.