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varsoon where the hell did you go?

He should be here for an hour more normally.

In post 1949, Nachomamma8 wrote:What do you think of his interactions with you? I'd certainly call you a strong voice even though we've been hammering at you all game.

buldermar''s been a strong voice. If anything Aj has pounded on me a couple of times as the weaker link and maybe safer target.

OK. I'm happy with our AJ talk. If there's anything else you want from me, let me know, but now let's talk Metal Sonic.

So the discussion was useful? What did you get from it. I still feel like it's inconclusive. It's the sort of case I would vote on as the clock ticked down if I didn't have a stronger case on someone else in hand.

In post 294, Sajin wrote:I would always criticize miller day 1 claims. I also wanted to know whether he investigated as a specific anti town faction name (the win condition leave open scum multiball possibility). I have also encountered a faction specific miller in a theme game before (Kingdom hearts mafia: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=12809&start=4275 check role pm 13) Coincidentally that miller was a town miller tracker. Go figure. The miller player was a strong asset to the town in that game (not by night actions, but by day play) and I would like to give Sven the same chance.

This post was awesome as fuck; I loved it. I think that way that he handled the miller claim was better than what any of us did, honestly, and I like him treating me like a petulant child while he did his own this. His questions, while not horribly significant or ridiculous, were also a good followup to him urging to look elsewhere; that attempt to get people talking about other things felt valid.

In post 317, Sajin wrote:He even implied you would have to take one you probably would not like (miller) with the one you would like (tracker). I don't think it was a tell at all and is weak reasoning. Additionally it actually makes a lot of sense as it shows me his frustration at the heat a miller claim brings but also acknowledges it as a "cool role" at the same time. That post is one of the main reasons I suspect he is town.

This makes a lot of sense, actually.

In post 1006, Sajin wrote:@Nacho You are being to obvious with what your doing here. Thus no effect.

I liked this post too.

In post 1006, Sajin wrote:232: I probably understand more roles than anyone in this thread. Trust me on that one.

And this one. I danced around like I was the king of setup spec in Poetic Justice when people weren't listening to me, and him standing behind it the way he did is nice.

In post 1370, Sajin wrote:Really Nacho? Are you town this game?

This is the type of "confronting town leaders" I really like. Not discrediting, but picked up on me playing up the Miller Tracker biz for reaction's sake and immediately attacked me on it. Consistent with him being a little behind, picking up on me overplaying the whole situation and attacking me for it despite "Nacho is town" on pretty much every other post. I liked it a lot.

In post 1463, Sajin wrote:You do it to yourself. Fine you can be town. Do me a favor and get varsoon to answer my case while I am gone for memorial day weekend.

Liked this too. Seriously doubt it's coming from scum.

A little too tired to give him the proper rundown, but pretty much the only thing holding me back from putting him in townblock is being caught up. Get caught up; your posts this game are good and I need your perspective a little more.

In post 1787, Aj The Epic wrote:And TMTOLBTWNTOF is still lurking around. I feel that this strategy is effective for him since no one pays any attention to him. Complete garbage posting and lurking off any attention.

What? Pretty sure everyone thinks letters is scum.

In post 1789, ² wrote:Stupid filler question. Is there a specific reason you think asking this question will give you information about anyones alignment? Looks like asking a question for the sake of asking a question.

Was wondering if there was a statistical/meta reason for choosing the number her chose. Still am curious.

Feeling good about cabdtown again.

Also, @AJ:

In post 774, Aj The Epic wrote:Town: 2, B&B, Nacho, BRO, Andrius, GIF

Scum: TD, prob-sven, lean varsoon, lesser lean orc.

In post 1148, Aj The Epic wrote:We've got town here:

Bro, Andy, Sajin, GIF, Cabd, B&B, Nacho, Rach (In order of strength

Scum here:

TMT, Ghost, Mac (motive bad, reasoning good... light scum read), Metal sonic, dntfkingcare, possibly 2.

You don't seem to ever explain your initial 2 read, and you don't explain why you switch. Can you talk about this?

In post 1954, ² wrote:So the discussion was useful? What did you get from it. I still feel like it's inconclusive. It's the sort of case I would vote on as the clock ticked down if I didn't have a stronger case on someone else in hand.

We see different things, of course. I was afraid there was something that made him town that I just wasn't seeing, but calling him town for attacking town leaders early isn't necessarily the best thing to do when their reasons are shit. It reminded me of our limited interactions in Fire, and I'm noticing a bit of a smoking gun that I can't really discuss, unfortunately.

Orc, I would maybe like to move Rev into townblock, but I want to discuss him with you.

In post 1957, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 1954, ² wrote:So the discussion was useful? What did you get from it. I still feel like it's inconclusive. It's the sort of case I would vote on as the clock ticked down if I didn't have a stronger case on someone else in hand.

We see different things, of course. I was afraid there was something that made him town that I just wasn't seeing, but calling him town for attacking town leaders early isn't necessarily the best thing to do when their reasons are shit. It reminded me of our limited interactions in Fire, and I'm noticing a bit of a smoking gun that I can't really discuss, unfortunately.

ok.

I thought I posted something about Sajin earlier this weekend but I can't find it.

good/bad?
I've really clicked with his posts lately.

In post 1671, Nachomamma8 wrote:1. ² (buldermar + fferyllt)
2. Aj The Epic
7. dntfkingcare
10. jon_h61
19. TMTOLBTWNTOF

i'm taking out dntfkingcare and leaving him in the "to be sorted pile"

In post 1960, Nachomamma8 wrote:good/bad?
I've really clicked with his posts lately.

It was good mostly. Only thing was the lack of comment on recent stuff. but, holiday weekend.

In post 1962, fferyllt wrote:

In post 1960, Nachomamma8 wrote:good/bad?
I've really clicked with his posts lately.

It was good mostly. Only thing was the lack of comment on recent stuff. but, holiday weekend.

grr.

I would not be surprised if DFK gets replaced Nacho. Same with Jon

I kinsane see some scum influence on a few players here

In post 1930, TiphaineDeath wrote:Third paragraph of 1785 is a scum claim.

He's making himself sound unthreatnening, pandering to town interest, after forgetting that his counterpart claimed tracker/miller he is now making sure that all take notice. There is just so much subtle deflection in this post it does the opposite for me.

The paragraphs above are saying wifom is ok and not a big deal while at the same time inspiring a whole load of it is also bad. These kind of tactics are the same i often use as scum to great effect, thus I can spot them.

"happy to try" "Prove my alignment" "curious" these words are still in the, "look at me I am a happy team playing townie" vein of speech. While maintaining the stance that he's not angry at anyone who thinks he is scum.

1793 is more of the same.

"Simply hoping you'd save me the bother"
"form my own read"

Every word out of this mans mouth is trying so damned hard to be town he cannot possibly be.

I am completely certain that MS is scum, however given that no on else is I'll lift my vote on him to vote reverend, I maintain that anytime anyone wants to vote ms I'll be right there with them.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: reverend

no one is voting for rev either so why not 2

what do you find town about 2

In post 1932, Nachomamma8 wrote:And let's talk about TD some more because his recent posts are really really town even though I don't necessarily agree with them.

idgi

In post 1953, Nachomamma8 wrote:let's talk Metal Sonic.

Please do. I also want to see some talk about me

nacho's case on me is very interesting

In post 1965, Keybladewielder wrote:I kinsane see some scum influence on a few players here

killkillkillkill

In post 1967, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:

In post 1932, Nachomamma8 wrote:And let's talk about TD some more because his recent posts are really really town even though I don't necessarily agree with them.

idgi

i've sold many people on this, but i don't think i'll sell you

beast i find 2 town too

I really hate auto correct. In my last post, I meant can see, by kinsane

once the posting slows down

i will be happy

Right now nacho and Mac hit me as town.

Null on AJ.

In post 1956, BROseidon wrote:
You don't seem to ever explain your initial 2 read, and you don't explain why you switch. Can you talk about this?

Was later explained.

Rach, you want to explain your vote a bit?

Nacho, yeah I attacked Orc for being an AtE player. But that's a true part of his process. There's nothing denying that. Other than that, I'm sorry I'm having a shit game. Not going to go into preservation mode.

I would like to point out (Actually, it wasn't really planned) that while I was gone, you may have talked about me a lot, but you generally stuck away from voting for me simply because I hadn't posted at all (exception: rach). This is, unfortunately, happening with the only confirmed scum player in this game, TmT.

² wrote:

In post 1949, Nachomamma8 wrote:What do you think of his interactions with you? I'd certainly call you a strong voice even though we've been hammering at you all game.

buldermar''s been a strong voice. If anything Aj has pounded on me a couple of times as the weaker link and maybe safer target.

Can you explain that last sentence? I didn't understand it at all.

(I was out on a work shift that was hellishly long and so I needed a lot of sleep to catch back up. I'll start getting back into the game).