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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:41 am

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It's a shame you're scum wreck, I like you.
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:42 am

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Perpetual Nonsense wrote:VOTE: Wreck


Huzzah!
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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:42 am

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DOMO wrote:It's a shame you're scum wreck, I like you.


You know what they say, keep your friends close and lynch them first.
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:44 am

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Perpetual Nonsense wrote:VOTE: Wreck



On a random note: you should pay more attention to your sig.
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:46 am

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If we're going to PL then do it pre-Lylo, Pasch and Bulba are both better lynches for today
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:47 am

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Not_Mafia wrote:If we're going to PL then do it pre-Lylo, Pasch and Bulba are both better lynches for today


Nah man, you are totally my scum buddy.
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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:53 am

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Not_Mafia wrote:If we're going to PL then do it pre-Lylo, Pasch and Bulba are both better lynches for today


Not pasch. wreck is scum and was trying to deflect the pine wagon onto pasch. I'm not touching pasch, he's as likely to be town as wreck is to be scum.
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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:50 pm

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Doubleslap wrote:VOTE: wreck
Swear to god, I am going to go back, tally all the Wreck votes, and I'm gonna find both scum on this horrible-ass wagon.
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:53 pm

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Total Wreck wrote:
Doubleslap wrote:it was a null read i was ok with lynching
i'm fine as long we don't lynch a townread
and i didn't say all of that
They are fine as long as we don't lynch a town read, but refused to vote scum!Pine, who they admitted was not a town read? This should die.
Though I'm not convinced, their whole play suddenly looks a whole lot worse, given what you found, what they're doing now, and overall situation. (Doesn't hurt that Shiny had ns suspect them.) So the townread on DS is gone, though how far gone I'm not sure yet.
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:57 pm

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Maybe not gone very far after all. Weaker, sure, but not gone. Buuuuut,
Total Wreck wrote:UNVOTE:
Wreck is town.

DOMO, you yourself pointed this trend out.

Remember how you were setting farside up as a scumread...and then suddenly, without cause, changed your mind as you rethought it and realized she was town?

This is the same thing. Total Wreck was thinking Doubleslap was scum...and then went on to
immediately
find evidence proving that wrong, unvoting. What does that tell you?

Simple. Wreck is town, who legitimately is scumhunting, is searching, actively, for the scum, and whose opinion changed after searching and finding something not matching. Whose read changed after new evidence, which they found. As scum, Wreck had no need to back down, not like that, not after immediately starting something that could have gained momentum. As town, Wreck has every reason to back down if no longer thinking the push is good.

Thus, Wreck is town.
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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:01 pm

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mastin2 wrote:This is the same thing. Total Wreck was thinking Doubleslap was scum...and then went on to
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find evidence proving that wrong, unvoting. What does that tell you?


I'm sorry, did you really just argue that not completely researching before casting a vote is a towntell? Carelessnes is one of the most common things I've seen pointed out as evidence of scumminess. And tactical voting, in that the vote is not based on evidence, but on strategy.

This is sheer utter nonsense from you, Mastin.
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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:02 pm

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mastin2 wrote:Because scum with fucking daychat NEVER, NEVER, EVER IN THEIR ENTIRE LIVES, EVER, would say this in-thread. Why not?
Town doesn't say it ever, either. WHY DOES TOWN WANT SOMEONE WHO IS SCUMMY TO TOWN IT UP?
Because they like that player and want to play with them and wish they were town. Player bias, off of the person rather than the role. Know how I know this? Because I do it all the time. No, seriously, all the time. Heck! You're focusing on that single line from Wreck as evidence he's scum...when
I posted nearly-identical lines myself
.

And as mentioned, Doubleslap also posted a similar line.

We can't all be scum.

Ergo...you're wrong.
Town say it all the time.
They let their biases to the player get in way of their play. Because...yep. They're human. They have emotions. They see something remarkable from a player in another game, and they want to see it desperately again in the current game. Thus the line at its absence.
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:03 pm

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mastin it's exactly the same kind of play as i experienced with scum!house in ny 177

bold scumplay, pushing/voting me the same way then being easily convinced he's wrong/incorrect assumption and unvoting soon after. like his voting/scumreads pattern here is just as on and off as it was there

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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:04 pm

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the one thing that might give me pause is that house has stated before that he molds his towngame to his scumgame, so his scumplay can be great metawise at the cost of his towngame

but then again that's the one thing that house said that might actually make me want to pl him

bringing up that post next

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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:07 pm

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DOMO wrote:He blatantly tells pine he's gonna bus him. Why did he say it itt instead of in the scum QT? idk, ask him after the game, but he did it, and then immediately realised how stupid it was, and tried to bullshit his way out of it. It's clear as daylight. That is not town, it's just not.
DOMO, you're not only violating occam's razor, but morphing the evidence to fit the read, rather than the other way around.

If you don't have an answer for why he wouldn't simply use the scum QT, the best and foremost resource for the scum to communicate in D1, then your whole argument falls apart. It's simple. Scum might communicate in-thread if they lack daychat in order to convey messages. This is true, and the trend you point out is something that could be this. But with daychat, there is no need. So instead of scum doing so, it is much simpler, safer, unambiguous, and direct to use their QT. So tell me again. Why, given the simple route of talking in the QT, would he violate that and talk in-thread when it's more risky, ambiguous, and likely to be missed? "For the lulz?" is the best answer you've got, and that simply doesn't work.

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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:10 pm

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DOMO wrote:mastin could be scum with wreck. I consider it unlikely, seeing as the likes of bulb and pasch, amongst others, also have compelling reasons to be scum. But mastin is committed to a claim involving being blocked n1, so if she's scum the she's also committed to doing everything possible to keep her buddy alive, becuse mastin is vulnerable to a cc. It would explain why she's giving him townpoints for literally the scummiest thing in this thread.
Domo, BULBAZAK AND PASCH AND ALL THOSE OTHERS ARE PUSHING WRECK AS SCUM!

What does that tell you?

That the entire town is pushing Wreck as being scum and I'm his buddy, that the entire town (save me) is pushing Wreck as being scum and his scumbuddy is bussing in spite of being a member down already,

OR...

You know, the far simpler explanation.

WRECK. IS. TOWN.
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:11 pm

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Total Wreck wrote:
Doubleslap wrote:VOTE: doubleslap

mastin, it's house
he likes to see how far he can push it and be reckless like that as scum
that doesn't apply very strongly to his scumgame


That is a flat out lie.

I play a conservative scum game, and I'm confrontational as town.

Talk about blatant misrep.


your voting pattern and behavior regarding partners were reckless as scum that game. that's what i'm talking about

Total Wreck wrote:Also, I don't hesitate to bus as scum. There would have been no warning.

Hell, I named both of my scum buddies in my first reads list in NY 177!


^supports above point - the point is you're not afraid to publicly make bold posts about your scumpartners- the post mastin's taking as you being conftown is part of why i'm still scumreading you

Total Wreck wrote:Anyone taking Doubleslap's read at face value should remember Marquis flat out admitted wanting me lynched here due to another game.

That other game was NY 177.

I'm just a PL to him.

Total Wreck wrote:
Doubleslap wrote:reading
marquis is watching agents of shield
also he is rly sure that tw is scum "cus of other games" but no other explanation


i'm pretty sure you're scum because of your play that game, not just i want you to die because of that game
like you even quoted it. that's the wording
rly sure that tw is scum "cus of other games"

not rly want to lynch tw for other games

reducing my scumread on you to "oh he just wants to pl me plz stop" isn't going to save your ass. so stop misrepresenting what i explicitly said [through seo]

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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:13 pm

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KittyCupCake wrote:FTR, Domo is my strongest non-mastin town read right now.
Coincidentally, DOMO's
also
my second-strongest townread...

...Right behind Total Wreck as my strongest!
(Farside's up there and so is Not_Mafia and somewhere around there is Perpetual Nonsense.)
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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:15 pm

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How do you know scum has day chat?
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:18 pm

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Are you trolling scum or trolling town?
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:19 pm

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Total Wreck wrote:And Bulbous Zack is scum, lynch him tomorrow.
Why do tomorrow what you can do today?

You are all being idiots by lynching Wreck.
He will flip town.
Guaranteed.

This push on him is EXTREMELY scumdriven.
The hammer was not horrible.
The hammer was incredibly town.
Everything about his play is just town.
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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:24 pm

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Paschendale wrote:I'm sorry, did you really just argue that not completely researching before casting a vote is a towntell?
Yep!
Carelessnes is one of the most common things I've seen pointed out as evidence of scumminess.
It's definitely scummy! As in, whenever it's done, it always raises eyebrows. It's never from scum! As in, whenever it's done, it always comes from a town player.
And tactical voting, in that the vote is not based on evidence, but on strategy.
Okay. Hit me.

What does Wreck gain from the scummy vote-unvote? What would Wreck gain from the original vote for that matter?

My point. Nothing.


Also, Pasch is basically supporting the wagon while not being on it as far as I can tell, sooooooooooooooo, probscum.
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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:27 pm

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mastin2 wrote:Domo, BULBAZAK AND PASCH AND ALL THOSE OTHERS ARE PUSHING WRECK AS SCUM!


I'm pushing Kitty as scum, and making a point of it that I'm agreeing with you, despite how you keep trying to jam your foot in your mouth.

That the entire town is pushing Wreck as being scum and I'm his buddy, that the entire town (save me) is pushing Wreck as being scum and his scumbuddy is bussing in spite of being a member down already


This doesn't even make sense. The entire town is definitely not saying you're Wreck's buddy. You're pretty universally townread for your incredibly vague PR claim earlier. And if you're defending Wreck... how exactly are you bussing them? Or how are they bussing you? They seem to be mainly after Bulba and Domo. You're not making any sense at all.

Total Wreck wrote:How do you know scum has day chat?


http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Encryptor

mastin2 wrote:Also, Pasch is basically supporting the wagon while not being on it as far as I can tell, sooooooooooooooo, probscum.


I'm scummy now for having multiple scumreads and commenting on one more than the other? There's a lot more to say about TW. Nobody but you and I seem to think that Kitty is scum. Huh, you're not arguing in favor of that wagon much either. Are you probscum too?
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:29 pm

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Total Wreck wrote:How do you know scum has day chat?
Okay. I'd be the first to admit this special kind of stupid is easily-faked as scum.

But c'mon.

It's a
really special kind of stupid
to say this after an
encryptor
has flipped.

And, dammit, I'm a sucker for it. Total Wreck is town.
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:31 pm

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Total Wreck wrote:How do you know scum has day chat?


On second thought, this looks kind of like an attempt to appear innocent. We all saw Pine's flip, and have more carelessness from TW. But now it's conftown Mastin approved carelessness. This looks like a ploy.

And yes, Mastin, I might even change my vote to TW. Re-evaluating based on new information is scummy too, right?

PeEdit: Now I just think you're screwing with us, playing dumb on purpose, Mastin. What's the deal?
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