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Assuming all of the roles we've seen hinted at are in the setup and town aligned, I pity scum this game. They are kinda getting shat-on.

Friendly neighbor isn't a particularly powerful role?

In post 1948, BROseidon wrote:VOTE: spiffeh

FB am I doing it right???

Yes, you are.

Also assuming the setup is like 14/4, town should have a pretty high amount of power given that the EV for scum in a mountainous with those numbers is like over 70% iirc.

In post 1952, Firebringer wrote:

In post 1948, BROseidon wrote:VOTE: spiffeh

FB am I doing it right???

Yes, you are.

Cool I'll just take a timeout then b/c apparently I'm off this game.

In post 1951, BROseidon wrote:Friendly neighbor isn't a particularly powerful role?

No, it isn't.

Waco wagon being pushed by Imperium and creeping up when camntsuki was in the lead probably makes Spiffeh the better vote.

Eh.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Spiffeh

hiplop will have a harder time attacking people for wagoning him if we leave him alone, and that'll give him plenty of room to scumhunt as he is wont to do.

Ok guys but I'm town so

In post 1917, Grib wrote:Medical Junkies also has some explaining to do.

Now that the Friendly Neighbor claim is onthe table I want to know:

Does MJ have more shots?
Why BROseidon?
And mostly, how in the FUCK did they think they would not get roleblocked?
Because I'm currently entertaining the idea of MJ and BRO being scum together.

In post 1919, kraska77 wrote:Who locked heads with imperium on day 1?(sorry didn't read the game overnight) MoI, transcend and who else?
Anyway those are solid town now...I doubt scum would distance like that that early into the game

They would.

In post 1920, hiplop wrote:

In post 1912, Grib wrote:Magna is basically my ride-or-die toptown this game, in case that wasn't clear.

Ugh

Agreed -- please don't say things like this especially when it is only Day 2 (you may well be correct about MOI's alignment -- that doesn't make this a good idea ever)

In post 1924, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 1903, Cephrir wrote:I don't think they're self-explanatory. Care to hold my hand?

But to elaborate instead of being completely snarky -

I've already been over my Camnt's scum read. The fact that main person debating me on that was Imperium scum doesn't dissuade me from thinking it has merit.

Spiffeh's entrance into the game was not very good.

He gets demerits for trying to direct power-roles multiple times (trying to get protective roles to protect Imperium and trying to dissuade anyone from shooting Imperium if a Vig).

In fact his "Snarky MUST be shot" post is one of the reasons I'm not trying to power-lynch Snarky today. If Spiffeh just had terrible reads and played bad yesterday as Town I'll revisit at a later date.

The Waco push I quoted was god awful. Waco wasn't scummy to begin with and had claimed a provable role that, despite the possibility of a scum Fruit Vendor, warranted testing at least Night 1 at the very least. Spiffeh cobbled together some crap that happened to coincide on the dominant wagon and helped finish the mislynch that scum Imperium started.

If you don't think this is worth serious consideration then I don't know what to tell you.

Actually, most of it is beter/more nuanced than I was expecting. I expected the bold to be the thrust of your argument and was prepared to be very underwhelmed by that, but the rest I can see

In post 1940, BROseidon wrote:

In post 1837, Fox McCloud wrote:This is where I currently stand:
Anti's list may differ, but this how I (Luna) currently feel about the game.

Luna's Foxy reads list v 1.0

Strong town:

BROseidon
Spiffeh
Cephrir
hiplop

Towny:

Transcend
Firebringer
kraska77

Imperium (Nachomamma8/Tammy hydra)

keyenpeydee

Medical Junkies (KuroiXHF/Malakittens hydra) (!) <- Pending supposed conf town d2 claim before moving further up.

Grib
kdowns

Leftovers:

DiamondSentinel
farside22
MagnaofIllusion
SnarkySnowman

Waco Kid

Here's Luna's last read list.

I'm trying to work through why Fox would get shot by scum over a number of other high-profile players in this game. N1 shot is best used to remove a townie who has a scumread on one or more of the more townread members of the scumteam. Obviously that wasnt TammyCho.

This makes me think that there's very like 1-2 scum in {DS, farside, MoI}. Snarky being scum probably wouldn't have gotten Fox shot, since Snarky's not a scum member that the team would try to protect until endgame. DS is probably the most likely to be town out of those 3 based on him also getting pretty seriously wagoned day 1 as well.

VOTE: Farside

(hooray using NKA to further things that I already believe!)

I would ordinarily think Fox was the default nightkill for scum here as, in my opinion, the best town player meta-wise in the game (sans perhaps Imperium for obvious reasons). However, the Imperium scum flip changes this a little, as I think they have little to gain from shooting inside our small block of sane players. And I very much suspect farside as well. So... perhaps you're on to something after all?

In post 1945, Firebringer wrote:I had an interesting night....

VOTE: Spiffeh

Aroo?

pedit: omg stop

Cephrir: I'm allowed to change my mind. It's just an expression.

In post 1957, Spiffeh wrote:Ok guys but I'm town so

What did you do last night?

In post 1945, Firebringer wrote:I had an interesting night....

VOTE: Spiffeh

Well you are basically claiming a Night action and Spiffeh is already my second most wanted lynch today ...

VOTE: Spiffeh

RB could have assumed they were an IC and didn't want to bother when there could be Vigs/Cops/what-have-yous running around.

But eh, Bro + MJ scum is possible.

I can't really blame anyone for being suspicious of me based on my stances yesterday and what we know today so w/e

Umm...well shit then... :/ shitty reads
VOTE: spiffeh

That should be 5 votes out of 8.

Roleblocker could have also been afraid of getting caught by a watch?

In post 1960, Firebringer wrote:

In post 1957, Spiffeh wrote:Ok guys but I'm town so

What did you do last night?

Nothing

In post 1950, DiamondSentinel wrote:Assuming all of the roles we've seen hinted at are in the setup and town aligned, I pity scum this game. They are kinda getting shat-on.

You are jumping to conclusions

In post 1951, BROseidon wrote:Friendly neighbor isn't a particularly powerful role?

Indeed

In post 1952, Firebringer wrote:

In post 1948, BROseidon wrote:VOTE: spiffeh

FB am I doing it right???

Yes, you are.

VOTE: Spiffeh

In post 1959, Grib wrote:Cephrir: I'm allowed to change my mind. It's just an expression.

I'm aware

I just had the post quoted and then things changed so I used it as a place to talk about what I wanted to say on the topic

Firebringer do you have something you'd like to share?

Because if you're implying that I performed an action last night that is fucking bullshit

And I'm getting quicklynched for whatever you're implying

So spit it out

L-2

might as well claim before asking Fireball to do so

In post 1969, Spiffeh wrote:Firebringer do you have something you'd like to share?

Because if you're implying that I performed an action last night that is fucking bullshit

And I'm getting quicklynched for whatever you're implying

So spit it out

Rolefishing.

Also, I do have a guilty on you, but I am not going to explain it till tomorrow, if I live.
UNVOTE:

We don't need to quicklynch you though.

oops

Firebringer

whatever

If I am lynched before Firebringer claims he's trolling or has results or whatever he should be quicklynched tomorrow

Unless he has an extremely convincing fucking reason for doing what he's doing now

Oh ok