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In post 1867, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yee, he was alignment informed you say, makes sense imo

Can you stop being dense for ONCE? I don't care if I'm being voted by Scum!Marshy or totally mislead Shaz, but you fucking tunnel me in every single game you play with me, and you never learn.

Okay based on a mixture of day 1 reads and the ISO of dunk and Varsoon scum probably in: {koki, nero, marshy, A50, pidgey, titus}

I'll do more thorough rereads of some interactions when I get some more free time.



-pedit nero I want to see your flip to decide on a few things including whether you v gamma is TvS or TvT. Don't think it's SvS given how many S flipped already.
As for koki his posts ping me. It might be a playstyle thing for sure but when you add the dunk flip and interaction and how many people are strongly defending him it makes sense to me.
Actually this is a good point. No way everyone defending koki is town. Even if koki is town it makes sense one of them at least would be trying to gain credit for it. Never have I seen such strong defence and townreads on one townie before in day 1. I'll find the scum among them.


Joey or chara for host/runner up


Okay guys lynch me .. A50 being wrong with such a bs case is worth more to me than living.

In post 1934, Chara wrote:

In post 1930, Gamma Emerald wrote:In addition might I point out that

I just pointed out a flaw in everyone's assumptions about the game

. As scum why do I not just let everyone sit with their thumbs up their asses?

which flaw was this? i'm trying to keep up but i may have missed posts just now.

pedit: i mentioned Shazi! :>

I noted that we had a new host election

In post 1937, brassherald wrote:Look, lets figure out one thing at a time, Who do we want in the WC?

We figure this out first and then move on to a lynch discussion.

I would propose Shaziro, but Shaziro being away for totally understandable issues might be an issue.

P-Edit: Nero stop being a douche.

I don't see any problem continuing to have you as the host

In post 1857, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1856, Shaziro wrote:My best bet is that there is a Town religion spreader, a Mafia religion spreader who has no win condition involved, and then a Mafia religion spreader who -does- have a win condition for their team involved, or possibly a team of like 2. That would mean that they could spread equally fast to the other two, in fact, and since the other two couldn't coordinate it would be in favor of the two who could. Makes their objective to find and kill the other religion spreaders while still spreading their religion, makes for an interesting mechanic, and is exactly the kind of thing I would expect to see in a Civilization Mafia theme game.

ALSO: Fuck everyone who said I was reaching when I made comparisons to the Prostitute role and the banning silk, not only did the fucking flavor for that ban being enacted mention sex workers, but CREATURE WAS A MAFIA ROLEBLOCKER WHICH IS ALSO CALLED A PROSTITUTE. 10/10 predictions, let's go!

Idk the religion victory condition you described sounds like it would work for a 3p as well.

Shaizro is likely red scum. His anti-ban silk and assumption about Mafia RB and vote pattern reek.

In post 1874, Nero Cain wrote:

vote:A50

This is another person I will not be playing with in the future. We don't lose anything if I get lynched here, but it's a matter of principle. I wouldn't mind vigging you if I didn't think you are the vig. (Yes, that's me being anti-town as fuck. This is becoming really frustrating and beyond ridiculous from the "lynch A50 in every game" fan club)

In post 1937, brassherald wrote:P-Edit: Nero stop being a douche.

I am not. He's prob just scum thats discrediting. Like, I just got out of a game where I accused scum of lurking and his hydra partner basically did the same thing here as Shaz. Of course, the argument will become "just 'cause one scum reacted like that in another game doesn't mean Shaz is scum in this game." Like, if I was accusing Shaz of faking his grandads death for ATE then yeah, I'd be a huge asshole but I'm not. His IRL doesn't mean he wasn't able to get a scum pm here.

In post 1952, Gamma Emerald wrote:I noted that we had a new host election

i feel like everybody already knew this was a game mechanic. i certainly did. the mod also posted it.

Almost: no need to apologize! if you were townreading me fully after being the only person i managed to fool in Danganronpa, that's when i would be concerned.

In post 1889, ActionDan wrote:HEAL: x2 Brassherald

Anyone who said "Give creature a couple more days" is probably NOT scum with him.

Chara that post you quoted is clearly Elbirn crumbing targetting Gamma.

Elbirn was probably a NK regardless.

Almost50 speccing multiball early is NAI.

I'd imagine at least one same color scum bussed Creature because you have to when his meta is to sabotage his scum games for the sake of his town games.

Portugal generally goes for diplomatic victories. Even so, the victory themes here might be important down the road. We'll see!

Why? I know I was in the crowd of not lynching Creature but I'd at least harrass me.

Is there a guilty on A50?

Or maybe I'll just play and tunnel you guys in every game regardless of my alignment and/or my read on your slots.

UNVOTE: Almost50
I think his d2 entry makes a lot of sense. A50 would you mind telling us if Taoism does anything?

In post 1955, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1874, Nero Cain wrote:

vote:A50

This is another person I will not be playing with in the future. We don't lose anything if I get lynched here, but it's a matter of principle. I wouldn't mind vigging you if I didn't think you are the vig. (Yes, that's me being anti-town as fuck. This is becoming really frustrating and beyond ridiculous from the "lynch A50 in every game" fan club)

Really don't care. Like if you are gonna lurk or w/e don't get mad when ppl call you scum.

So remember when I said that if there is a culture team they probably have to spread religion? A50 could literally just be that. Having a long elaborate way of saying “I’m China and spread Taoism” means nothing wrt alignment, and if he is China...why didn’t he say anything about the way banning silk affected him? I would assume China would be the one to be affected by that luxury ban the most, and the ban confirmation post suggested the same. Does making a big “riddle” crumb really mean he -is- China? All in all, I don’t think having that crumb changes a thing.

Pedit: fuck off Nero. Honestly and truly.

Titus, I changed my mind on banning silk later on and gave my reasoning, re-read my iso.

In post 1937, brassherald wrote:Look, lets figure out one thing at a time, Who do we want in the WC?

We figure this out first and then move on to a lynch discussion.

I would propose Shaziro, but Shaziro being away for totally understandable issues might be an issue.

P-Edit: Nero stop being a douche.

I think that's a non starter. I'd take literally anyone else. Even the power hungry Koichi.

My birthday is tomorrow.

In post 1842, Venmar wrote:

And so, Day 2 begins!

Dunkerdoodles was found dead during Night 1. He was

Boudica

of the

Celts

,

aligned with the

Domination Mafia.

Dunkerdoodle's role was

Mafia Pagan Spreader.

Spoiler: Mafia Pagan Spreader

• Spreads the "Pagan" religion to a player every night. That player henceforth will be converted to and a member of "Paganism", and told as such. No discernible or tangible night effect.

Religion is not specific to a cultural mafia. Read Dunker's flip.

In post 1951, BuJaber wrote:nero I want to see your flip to decide on a few things including whether you v gamma is TvS or TvT.

thats a pretty piss poor reason to "scumread" me.

In post 1880, Nero Cain wrote:Joey, is Bujaber scum for trying to force a town read on Dunk by claiming he was the same role as koki?

He is 100% Scum with Creature, yes. And he will now stop posting and replace out (a tactic he uses when he's scum and under pressure, and I'm wondering what happened to the "tactical scum replace out are prohibited and will get you banned" rule)

In post 1966, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 1951, BuJaber wrote:nero I want to see your flip to decide on a few things including whether you v gamma is TvS or TvT.

thats a pretty piss poor reason to "scumread" me.

Yes. People generally do have piss poor reasonings. Merely dismissing them generally has the inverse effect.

In post 1856, Shaziro wrote:My best bet is that there is a Town religion spreader, a Mafia religion spreader who has no win condition involved, and then a Mafia religion spreader who -does- have a win condition for their team involved, or possibly a team of like 2. That would mean that they could spread equally fast to the other two, in fact, and since the other two couldn't coordinate it would be in favor of the two who could. Makes their objective to find and kill the other religion spreaders while still spreading their religion, makes for an interesting mechanic, and is exactly the kind of thing I would expect to see in a Civilization Mafia theme game.

ALSO: Fuck everyone who said I was reaching when I made comparisons to the Prostitute role and the banning silk, not only did the fucking flavor for that ban being enacted mention sex workers, but CREATURE WAS A MAFIA ROLEBLOCKER WHICH IS ALSO CALLED A PROSTITUTE. 10/10 predictions, let's go!

Note the first bit of this, brass. I definitely think one scum team spreads religion but -doesn’t- win based on it, because it makes it harder for the other scum team who does to win by it.

In post 1962, Shaziro wrote:So remember when I said that if there is a culture team they probably have to spread religion? A50 could literally just be that. Having a long elaborate way of saying “I’m China and spread Taoism” means nothing wrt alignment, and if he is China...why didn’t he say anything about the way banning silk affected him? I would assume China would be the one to be affected by that luxury ban the most, and the ban confirmation post suggested the same. Does making a big “riddle” crumb really mean he -is- China? All in all, I don’t think having that crumb changes a thing.

Pedit: fuck off Nero. Honestly and truly.

Titus, I changed my mind on banning silk later on and gave my reasoning, re-read my iso.

How much can we rely on flavor spec though to be fair?

A50 could be scum because he got some early votes from flipped scumsters which could be a sign of bussing. That's all I have on him that might be AI.


Pedit sorry nero that's not why I scumread you that's why I want to lynch you. I actually don't know how to read you this game. Been flip flopping

In post 1881, Nero Cain wrote:Also, Gamma is orange scum. hehehehue

If you truly believe so, how come you're voting me with him when my play on D1 at least suggests I'm not Scum with Creature?! Do you have a brain or do you just fire in all directions like your avatar does?

In post 1969, Shaziro wrote:

In post 1856, Shaziro wrote:My best bet is that there is a Town religion spreader, a Mafia religion spreader who has no win condition involved, and then a Mafia religion spreader who -does- have a win condition for their team involved, or possibly a team of like 2. That would mean that they could spread equally fast to the other two, in fact, and since the other two couldn't coordinate it would be in favor of the two who could. Makes their objective to find and kill the other religion spreaders while still spreading their religion, makes for an interesting mechanic, and is exactly the kind of thing I would expect to see in a Civilization Mafia theme game.

ALSO: Fuck everyone who said I was reaching when I made comparisons to the Prostitute role and the banning silk, not only did the fucking flavor for that ban being enacted mention sex workers, but CREATURE WAS A MAFIA ROLEBLOCKER WHICH IS ALSO CALLED A PROSTITUTE. 10/10 predictions, let's go!

Note the first bit of this, brass. I definitely think one scum team spreads religion but -doesn’t- win based on it, because it makes it harder for the other scum team who does to win by it.

This would be pretty bold coming from scum. Soft townread on shaz.

So I should be willing to get lynched just to not dismiss him? Like if Bu has a case I can show him where he's wrong but if his sole reasoning is "I don't know how to read you so I want to flip you" then I'm just gonna dismiss him

I think flavor spec is fairly useful in a game that has this much flavor involvement in the mechanics. It’s why I love themes and am not a fan of normals, I can get into the weird flavor and mechanics.