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In post 1949, Varsoon wrote:RR, can you talk shop with me sometime this game
I feel directionless and I want my Bujab lynch but it's not winning.

Yeah man, what's up? Honestly, I'm just reading along, waiting to hear my othe rheads thoughts, because I'm also pretty directionless. I haven't seen any reason to feel differently about profii or hebichan, and I don't particularly agree with the original chickadee push stuff, but I also lack the motivation at the moment to really push hebi or profii given the lack of interest in those lynches. It's like starting from nothing, and there's not enough reason to actually suspect them over others to justify a hard push.

-Cerb

Yeah that's basically what I feel like but it actually feels like if I could get into things then I could give the Bujaber wagon the push it needs cus it feels like it's at tipping point right now.
You lit a fire under my ass in the past, I dunno.
I tend to get overwhelmed in these really really large games like this and there's just too much info/content/interactions to focus on them all and I tend to just shut it out.

Do you think Profii's intentionally kinda sitting at where they're at in order to not compromise being a low-pushed wagon? Like how has profii's play from your read formation until now influenced your read?
'cus on my end Bujaber's play has just kinda adhered to the problems I've had with it all along. :/

It also bugs me that Clemency came in to decry their wagon and then kinda ghosted but I guess it hasn't been that long?
Or are they posting a bunch and I just didn't realize?

They had a spam post segment but didn't say much.
I'm happy with my Bujaber vote but is the Clem wagon inherently that bad in your eyes?

In post 1951, Varsoon wrote:Yeah that's basically what I feel like but it actually feels like if I could get into things then I could give the Bujaber wagon the push it needs cus it feels like it's at tipping point right now.
You lit a fire under my ass in the past, I dunno.
I tend to get overwhelmed in these really really large games like this and there's just too much info/content/interactions to focus on them all and I tend to just shut it out.

Do you think Profii's intentionally kinda sitting at where they're at in order to not compromise being a low-pushed wagon? Like how has profii's play from your read formation until now influenced your read?
'cus on my end Bujaber's play has just kinda adhered to the problems I've had with it all along. :/

Honestly, until this moment I completely forgot about the fact that profii was the target of your fake vig reaction test, but his entire reaction *wasn't* towntelling to me at all. Like, idk, maybe it's too low EV a play to actually make sense, but that post declaring that you must be scum for shooting him for in spite of his bad cop crumbs(they were bad, btw, because they were too obvious to actually take seriously) just rubbed me really wrong. I have no idea what scum!profii would have been trying to accomplish with that though, but idk, just doesn't feel right. As far as evolution of the read is concerned...more attention needs to be paid by me? His slot hasn't said anything that I actually remember since then, so there hasn't been a change.

In post 1952, Varsoon wrote:It also bugs me that Clemency came in to decry their wagon and then kinda ghosted but I guess it hasn't been that long?
Or are they posting a bunch and I just didn't realize?

I don't think it's been that long at all, the game is just moving fast generally speaking I think? They're not posting all that much though...like more than Chickadee, but nothing super notable. Their content has been basically empty though. Pretty bad scum defense attempt if they are scum, and my standard BoP for strangers makes me feel that's more likely to come from town just not feeling like dealing with the shit their predecessor left for them.

-Cerb

I'm not wild about it and not confident that it'll flip scum.
If it happens to be the lynch, I'm alright with it as I don't think Clem's a slot I'd argue is town or even worth keeping alive and plenty of people have had interactions there so it's not the worst green flip ever, it just doesn't excite me and I tend to avoid wagons/flips that don't excite me.

P-EDIT:
@RR: I thought profii looked REALLY BAD then, too, but then profii's responses after made me pretty sure profii was town.
Would you believe me if I told you that I forgot that I even faked the vig there?

In post 1955, Varsoon wrote:I'm not wild about it and not confident that it'll flip scum.
If it happens to be the lynch, I'm alright with it as I don't think Clem's a slot I'd argue is town or even worth keeping alive and plenty of people have had interactions there so it's not the worst green flip ever,

it just doesn't excite me and I tend to avoid wagons/flips that don't excite me.

P-EDIT:
@RR: I thought profii looked REALLY BAD then, too, but then profii's responses after made me pretty sure profii was town.
Would you believe me if I told you that I forgot that I even faked the vig there?

Dude yeah that's it. It's more the fact that regardless of how the slot flips, I'll shrug. If it's town I'll be annoyed, but I'm not invested in it one way or the other enough that I'll have to reevaluate the game or be angry at everyone. If it's scum, yay, but i don't even really see the flip giving loads of associatives to solve the game with or anything. So yeah, not exciting; even less so when they're just...not fighting back, and not playing the game.

Fair. I just don't really see the towntelling there that's so evident to a few others. Anything more concrete than feelings about how those reactions made them town?

@everyone: Yes, my voice is super different in these posts with Varsoon, take that to mean what you will. I know what it means! ^^

-Cerb

In post 1950, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 1949, Varsoon wrote:RR, can you talk shop with me sometime this game
I feel directionless and I want my Bujab lynch but it's not winning.

Yeah man, what's up? Honestly, I'm just reading along, waiting to hear my othe rheads thoughts, because I'm also pretty directionless. I haven't seen any reason to feel differently about profii or hebichan, and I don't particularly agree with the original chickadee push stuff, but I also lack the motivation at the moment to really push hebi or profii given the lack of interest in those lynches. It's like starting from nothing, and there's not enough reason to actually suspect them over others to justify a hard push.

-Cerb

I thought profii's reaction was good, but seems like since everyone left his wagon, he could go back to his igloo. I'm still interested in that wagon, but as you said, no one's voting him. We have to be pragmatic with our votes too, and your vote is accomplishing nothing (no offense).

If you had to vote for one of the leading wagons (not saying you should if you're not convinced by none), which would it be? If you could start a wagon on any other player... you get the idea.

In post 1915, BrightEyedFish wrote:

In post 1913, Tails wrote:VOTE: Clemency

I like your vote but can I ask why you decided to vote clem?

Because I felt like it.

In post 1928, Flavor Leaf wrote:Tails, for some reason, I like you. I can’t explain why, but maybe gut just says your town to me. I have a hardcore paranoia you gonna sweep the game.

So...you're saying I need to work harder to get myself killed?

In post 1939, DrewVa wrote:

In post 1910, Tails wrote:

In post 1855, DrewVa wrote:You really need to read the entire game.

Have I not?

I don’t think so, otherwise you wouldn’t have said, you wanted my slot to die.

I've wanted your slot to die for awhile.

@Cerb: What do you make of Nancy pretending my scum read on her is new and meritless?

About to be prodded. Will try to be here tmrw

It's adorable if you imagine that was said in mews.

In post 1923, Toogeloo wrote:Sorry, will go back about my own musings. Didn't mean to interrupt.

What the fuck?

In post 1956, Reasonably Rational wrote:@everyone: Yes, my voice is super different in these posts with Varsoon, take that to mean what you will. I know what it means! ^^

-Cerb

Lol I was getting sketched out till you pointed it out.

I don't see that as a partner back and forth and Varsoon is pretty solidly town. I think Bujaber was towny early too though. So pitch me Bujaber scum, RR or Varsoon.

I'll pick some Bujaber related questions out of his iso when I get a chance to focus on the game a bit better.

But truth be told I haven't been paying attention to his slot since the beginning of the day. Or anyone that hasn't really pushed on me.

sorry i'm not posting much because i kind of overwhelmed myself and i'm not really used to super serious games
my playstyle is to just shitpost my way to innocence and that wont fly here

In post 1904, Nero Cain wrote:Is Alonzo scum that's blatantly not doing anything or one of those new age players that are all like "I'm going to be scummy and useless for reasons"

In post 1946, Toogeloo wrote:Sure, why not. If he doesn't think I'm a threat, and doesn't want to Lynch me, great!

not really what I was getting at but ok...

No, no it won't. But the good news is you probably get shot in the night, so you've got that going for you.

Was that @ me or Clem? Why are you so certain either of us get shot?

Clem. I doubt he dodges a TK.

So while I think he's still scum I'm fine with consolidating a better Lynch.

if anything i blame a50 for inviting me here
(kidding, no hard feels)

In post 1971, RCEnigma wrote:So while I think he's still scum I'm fine with consolidating a better Lynch.

If you think he's scum then from your POV there be a better lynch.

Who else are you scum reading though?

There are more than one scum so yes I would argue there can be better lynches and even in the event of a mislynch if it gives town with bad reads better information to make more informed decisions going forward then I'm potentially ok with that. I say potentially because I have no idea how many possible myslynches we have.

I've got the scumread on DGB for the reasons I've stated on the Chickadee connection. I'm not wild on FL or Hebi I have a feeling they aren't the same alignment but it mostly hinges on not being able to read FL this game. So I can't tell if it's scum FL that pocketed Hebi or scum Hebi that took the pocket and ran.

Everyone loves Pint and I've liked some of his reads but that doesn't make him town. Mala has a daypass from me but I don't think she's really too towny. Out of the low activity slots she just hasn't produced anything to read either way, but I feel even when she's inactive as town she's capable of bleeding green so there's that.