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Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:02 pm**

i feel pretty good re BEF scum (I had a post about this), and with his claim I feel even better about him being scum that its obnoxious he's still alive.

but I don't think the situation is nearly as comparable, and following creature's suggestion should be the objectively better play.

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:07 pm**

Why aren't they comparable?

One of the big reasons, internally, I backed away from lynching you was the idea that I could confirm you based on jailing. Would you say leaving you alive that last game was optimal?

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:09 pm**

Like I had so much evidence against you where we did a short 1v1, and I was confident af you were scum because your AtE and chewbacca defense thing.

But then I dropped it all at the claim. All I'm saying is that we were lucky to have a competent town to pick up where I came short. I think it's a similar situation here. Except now I have the power to enlighten y'all.

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:13 pm**

Because I'm not looking confirm BEF. He is getting rope REGARDLESS of his result.

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:20 pm**

Who's the partner ?

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:28 pm**

In post 1945, OkaPoka wrote:we are letting a free lynch slip through our fingers when we don't have to.

I'm stunned Oka of all people is the one to point out the obvious in this bass ackwards thread.

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:36 pm**

thanks?

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:00 pm**

Yea, I don't see the benefit we get from delaying a BEF lynch. Just seems to give scum an extra night to strategize?

In post 1787, Kmd4390 wrote:I'm also coming around on the idea that Bright could be scum. Creature makes a good point that Bright's reads are all consensus reads and regardless of how Bright presents those reads, it's still true that they ARE his reads. Dann also showed that some of Bright's posts focus on whether the lynch can go through or not rather than whether the player he is voting is scum. That may show the mentality of scum trying to get through the game rather than town trying to find scum.
I think I'd vote Bright if the choices are him, mbaki, and Vorkuta.

@KMD, This is the ISO you were referring to, yea? Why did you say this and then not vote Bright yesterday?

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:05 pm**

In post 1942, Varsoon wrote:Not really much, I guess.
I just get worse vibes from Oka and DDL.
The way they are present and how they interact with the game
It bothers me
I can't really articulate it

What about them gives you bad vibes? What do you think of DDL's reaction to Vork and BEF at the end of the last day? Do you think scum pulls off the wagon like that?

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:37 pm**

I think scum'd pull off if they knew it'd flip town, if only to avoid catching flak for being on it.

I didn't like their early play and their constant interaction in the thread doesn't feel, to me, like they're trying to figure out the game nearly as much as it's just them setting up whatever lynch works.

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:12 pm**

hey gonna read a bit now

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:32 pm**

^ I got you bro

In post 1405, northsidegal wrote:Dannfl

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:33 pm**

Fixed up the quote

In post 1405, northsidegal wrote:
Dannflor replaces Leodanny.

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:34 pm**

In post 1944, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 1930, Dannflor wrote:What if he's scum and just decides to confirm DDL as town in an attempt to prove his own innocence?
I thought you thought I was scum?

hey dann can you answer this pls

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:38 pm**

In post 1959, Varsoon wrote:I think scum'd pull off if they knew it'd flip town, if only to avoid catching flak for being on it.

I didn't like their early play and their constant interaction in the thread doesn't feel, to me, like they're trying to figure out the game nearly as much as it's just them setting up whatever lynch works.

also are you fucking kidding about this? How does pulling off vork not generate flak? Plus we rarely wagon analyze, and vork asso i could be sitting pretty rather than drawing attention to myself as scum.

there's no reason for scum-me to pull of vork + I was first vote anyways.

Of course, scum could know this and yadda yadda, so that is at most not alignment indicative.

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:45 pm**

In post 1954, OkaPoka wrote:Who's the partner ?

hmm I'm not too sure. Dannflor maybe? Kmd is possible too.

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:47 pm**

I was uneasy about creature but now I'm feeling better

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:55 pm**

Seems like you're upset that I called ya out on what you did.

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:49 pm**

In post 1963, DrDolittle wrote:I thought you thought I was scum?

I changed my mind over the night. I don't think your super town, but I think now that your actions at the end of the last day don't come from scum. I mention this here:

In post 1832, Dannflor wrote:I don't particularly like Suka/Kmd/DDL, but each slot has given me town vibes at one point or another

Right now though, I'm leaning Kmd for second scum, more on that later.

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:02 pm**

In post 1960, Leodanny wrote:hey gonna read a bit now

awk

Posted: **Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:19 pm**

In post 1967, Varsoon wrote:Seems like you're upset that I called ya out on what you did.

im really not. im more upset at how terrible of a player you are.

Posted: **Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:38 am**

Bright wrote: Maybe it's the tone but I never implied that you are scum. I think your vote on me was lazy and it was by telling us to ISO your D2 posts. I'd bet no one ISOd you after that post. I didn't and honestly I don't remeber your reads from D2.

Meh that's fair. All of my day 3 posts including this one have been either right before work or right before bed so they've been rushed.

_________

Dann, I'll give updated reads later today after I've had a chance to read and not just skim. My work schedule has finally relaxed. To answer your question about why I never got a chance to change my vote, vorkuta was lynched before I could catch up. I rarely if ever change my vote when im behind except to remove it entirely.

Posted: **Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:37 am**

Posted: **Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:37 am**

In post 1928, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 1926, Creature wrote:
In post 1919, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1886, Creature wrote:UNVOTE:

It's suboptimal to lynch a claim that's likely dying tonight anyway
I'm not sure I buy this logic. If BEF didn't die during the night, that wouldn't automatically incriminate him because of the existence of healer roles and roleblockers and scum playing mindgames. We'd be left in exactly the same situation tomorrow as we are today concerning BEF. Why should we not lynch him today?
Either he comes with a result tomorrow or he gets lynched.
or?

If it's the former, we decide whether to lynch him or not.

Posted: **Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:38 am**

Meh, I don't want another stupid lynch like Vorkuta or YyottaCat.

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