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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:48 am
by Firebringer
In post 1949, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1948, Churros wrote:
In post 1947, Nero Cain wrote:same
I'm treating this as a VT claim

Alch? You next?
Odd-Night Jailkeeper


I jailkept you N1.

I almost hard counterclaimed Fire when he claimed to have roleblocked you, and did soft counterclaim by asking why anyone should believe him. In the end I decided that if he was scum it's a ballsy play and he was more likely Town trying to draw the NK. I think he realized I was softing the CC when he gave me infinite Townpoints.

It's also why I think Zan's claim is true because he could be the even-Night counterpart to my role.
;(

I was trying to protect whoever was jailkeep.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:49 am
by Firebringer
i mean...

I am the real jailkeep ignore alchie.

He is lying, he is town though. Ignore him.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:49 am
by Alchemist21
In post 740, Alchemist21 wrote:Are you a fruit vendor? I didn’t get your fruit, sorry.
In post 802, Alchemist21 wrote:I really hope someone claims a vig shot on Elements because it would clear things up.
It's also why I trusted the Fruit Vendor claim because I knew I was the reason I didn't get your fruit. I also wanted a vig claim on Elements because I could clear your slot as the NK attempt.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:51 am
by Firebringer
I am the real jailkeep

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:55 am
by NorwegianboyEE
VT here.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:15 pm
by Nero Cain
ok switch fire and Alch

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:16 pm
by Zantetsu
In post 1943, Nero Cain wrote:what do u think of me now that I didn't hammer? What do you think of alch not calling me out on it?
Well I don't think you're terrible because you didn't actually do something terrible. You're back to the person you were before that, which is a person who looks reasonably towny. Also Luna was town and she town read you very solidly so that's something.

In terms of Alch, I have caught up now and his claim is much more interesting than what I thought about his response to your fake hammer. But I can still give my thoughts if you really want them.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:19 pm
by Zantetsu
I 1000% trust Alch over Fire at this point.

VOTE: FireBringer

I have a feeling Firebringer is a scum roleblocker which is doubly awesome because Alch is gonna get to protect Churros tonight.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:28 pm
by Zantetsu
Profii still needs to claim but I am not sure if he's playing any more.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:37 pm
by Zantetsu
Alchemist can you explain why you jailkept Churros N1? What was your read on Churros at that time?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:43 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 1959, Zantetsu wrote:Alchemist can you explain why you jailkept Churros N1? What was your read on Churros at that time?
Town. I thought I’d have a better chance of stopping a NK by trying to guess the target rather than guess who would do the kill and I thought since Churros was the most vocal slot scum would see them as the biggest threat and try to kill them.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:45 pm
by Zantetsu
Did you crumb your role or target anywhere?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:50 pm
by Alchemist21
I don’t really crumb. What posts I’ve already quoted were me hinting about having Jailkeeper, especially my doubt on Fire claiming to have blocked Churros N1 because I knew it was me who did it.

I also called out someone for thinking we had a soft guilty and suggested a Doc could have stopped the kill back on D2 because that’s how I was was using my role, as a Doc.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:50 pm
by Churros
Maybe massclaiming wasn't such a good idea I guess, but alch as confirmed town does help me a lot

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:51 pm
by Churros
I do wonder if I should scrutinize his claim more but I feel that there's not enough power elsewhere for him to be scum

so far Alch/Zantetsu are town to me

let's see if scum chickens will claim anything spicy to counterattack here.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:52 pm
by Firebringer
i am the real jailkeeper u other jailkeepers can't deny

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:52 pm
by Churros
This game got a lot simpler maybe.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:54 pm
by Churros
I feel 2/3 of

Nero/Popop/Profi

needs to be scum at the very least.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:55 pm
by Churros
I probably should consider norwe as well now that alch is crossed out but hmmm...

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:56 pm
by Firebringer
Norwee and Nero are townie tho

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:56 pm
by Zantetsu
The 2% paranoia I carried for Churros through N2 has now shifted to Alchemist, who has a 2% chance of being partner with FireBringer. But he's 98% town confirmed. Churros is 100% town confirmed.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:57 pm
by Firebringer
wait this game can't be so simple as saudade/popop/proffii.

maybe i should consider nero or norwee but norwee is feeling very townie.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 1:00 pm
by Churros
ok this game doesn't make sense if it's not popop/nero

at least one of those I feel are almost guaranteed to be wolf?

The reason I wasn't NK'd in N1 was because I was defending popop

The reason Luna wasn't NK'd in N1 was because she was hard siding with Nero

Alch was trying to lynch Peter which was town

If popop is scum, there's no reason to not have killed Nero right there or in N2

if Nero is scum who exactly are his most likely partners outside of [profi, popop] anyway?

I guess we were on the right side since the start and it's a shame we claimed when we didn't need to, but it happens.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 1:01 pm
by Firebringer
profii has to be scum regardless, right?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 1:01 pm
by Churros
Norwe may or may not be scum

let's talk about him after some flips.

p-edit: no