Mini Normal 2147 | Door Mafia | Game Over!

[Firebringer]

Looker was town too wtf r u talking about it being a better option

[Albert B. Rampage]

Albert I was the first to call FL a wolf.

You called him a villager. Stop rewriting what happened this game.

And yet it is I who has the power to lynch him after my clever bait.

You have no power, no credibility, and no instinct for mafia. Sit down and let the scumhunters win the game.

[Flair]

@ABR

Thoughts on FL? Anything. Villager or wolf?

Town.

If next you’re going to say you lied about this and thought he was a wolf all along.

1) Why not just help me eliminate him on the spot yesterday? If you’re a villager you and I would have had our way with him.
2) If everything you say may be the truth or a lie, I have no barometer of when you’re actually telling the truth so it’s in my best interest to ignore you or eliminate you. If you’re as smart as you seem to think even you should understand this.

[Flair]

Looker was town too wtf r u talking about it being a better option

Read my post again.

If we were always going to eliminate a villager yesterday between Stan and Looker, I’d rather we eliminate the player everyone has formed an opinion on and we’ve generated countless interactions with.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My job is to pressure every slot to determine their alignment. I do that with votes and dangerous bandwagons that go all the way to L-1.

If scum wish to expose themselves and hammer before a claim, blowing their own cover, I am happy to make that trade, every single time.

Bow yourself low before me Flair and Clair. I will forgive you with a slap behind the head so you may find redemption and rise again, on the righteous FL winwagon.

[Flair]

Albert I was the first to call FL a wolf.

You called him a villager. Stop rewriting what happened this game.

And yet it is I who has the power to lynch him after my clever bait.

You have no power, no credibility, and no instinct for mafia. Sit down and let the scumhunters win the game.

Are you OK? Like, seriously. You seem hurt. As if you have some kind of victim-complex or small man syndrome.

I understand you’re the big dog here and none of you other than Clair or Blair know who I am, but you seem so sensitive and insecure it’s actually concerning. If you’re a troll I actually feel bad for you.

[Flavor Leaf]

I hammer every time someone gets to L-1, this is known meta.

I’m town here.

Albert, did you receive anything last night?

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, I’m scum if Stanley’s scum, and I’m scum if Stanley’s scum. Some serious surface level shit right there.

[Flair]

I’m going to take a break.

I’ll let Albert continue to do whatever the fuck it is he’s doing and wait until FL enters. He still probably has read nothing so he can die, too, but at least I won’t have to sit her and argue with Albert.

[Flair]

Nice, FL is here.

You two have fun, I’ll check back in later.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're the gift that keeps on giving to scum, Flair. Very well, attention-seeker. Do as you please, brat, we will lynch the scum in FL and then clean up the rest.

[Flavor Leaf]

I hammer every time someone gets to L-1, this is known meta.

I’m town here.

Albert, did you receive anything last night?

[Blair]

Remember, Albert has a powerful plan that will completely destroy the scumteam. The only thing that could prevent town from winning this game is if we refused to follow it. Therefore, lynching Albert removes all opposition to his plan and we can finally execute it in total security and peace of mind.

This is perfect, except he hasn't shared his notes with the whole class.

Since you're offsite foreigners, you're ignorant of the fact that day 1 scum lynches are bad for town, so I will direct you to mafia theory discussions explaining this tried and tested phenomenon:

These two points by themselves are absolutely huge and the biggest reason why I say that scum lynches d1 are inherently anti-town in large games. It's very rare for a town to be able to ride that momentum unless they are able to turn that one lynch into a decisive advantage in of itself, which generally means the setup is either broken, town has a massive PR advantage after that one scum lynch, or town in general has the entire scumteam pegged. What generally happens is that town ends up not flipping another scum for multiple days and ending up losing that numbers advantage really easily since it's relatively simple for scum to readjust to losing that extra member compared to town leveraging that advantage to build a decisive one.

1. This isn't a "large game."

2. Even Newbie games (that typically lack the benefit of your brilliance) overwhelmingly favor town victories when scum is lynched Day 1 - and those are 2 scum setups where lynching scum Day 1 *should* mean there are no scum associatives to rely on for the rest of the game. This is almost certainly a 3 scum setup, so logic would follow that a Day 1 scum lynch would be even better here.

Are we going to pretend that Albert's "I'm positive Stan1ey is scum *flips Town* Aha! Just as I predicted, Stan1ey is town, this is good for us, all is going according to plan" logic is town motivated... or even remotely coherent?

VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

We can punish Flavor Leaf for that terribad hammer later, this needs to go now.

Seer Hunt Clear

tl;dr If Looker presented a read that looked like a Peek/Investigation, the wolves might have killed him thinking he was a Seer. Which would mean his read was accurate as the wolves believed Looker to be real.

So we can reliably assume the player he read villager with such confidence, is in fact a villager.

But if yesterday’s gameplay was indicative of the level of mechanical nuance MS plays with, I’d imagine SHC isn’t something used here.

I do not believe Night 0 checks are considered Normal.

[Flavor Leaf]

Honestly, I’m kind of done with the “hasn’t read” nonsense. It’s kind of tilting me, to be honest. It’s actually making me care less about this game, and now Sakura left too, so my lack of caring about surface level pushes on me are really having me not want to play anymore.

I’m town.

[Firebringer]

Honestly, I’m kind of done with the “hasn’t read” nonsense. It’s kind of tilting me, to be honest. It’s actually making me care less about this game, and now Sakura left too, so my lack of caring about surface level pushes on me are really having me not want to play anymore.

I’m town.

you probably should stop skimming

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, if you lot are too surface level to see why that was a fantastic hammer, then I don’t know what to tell you guys.

I will always hammer an L-1 unless I’m whole heartedly against the lynch with confidence if Day 1 is past page 40, and
both Gobbledygook and Firebringer know this.

ABR if you are town, you are straight up incorrect with your reads and scum are taking advantage of you. If you are scum, well, alright then, you got the advantageous position of being scum with a surface level player list.

[Flavor Leaf]

Honestly, I’m kind of done with the “hasn’t read” nonsense. It’s kind of tilting me, to be honest. It’s actually making me care less about this game, and now Sakura left too, so my lack of caring about surface level pushes on me are really having me not want to play anymore.

I’m town.

you probably should stop skimming

I’ve read and analyzed this game more than you have,so you should stop being surface level

[Albert B. Rampage]

Has everyone read my guide on Focusing on Scum and Getting them Lynched?

I do not speak to scum, it is pointless. FL had an incredibly strong townread on stanley with his very few posts, and then when I asked to wait for his claim, FL quickhammered him, after he quickhammered the cop as town in our previous game, putting a nail in the coffin for town and allowing my scum team to win. This is someone who thinks he can coast by as scum on "meta". I know FL's will to win overrides his false intention of staying consistent with "hammering everything at L-1", so I ask you to consider how it's more likely he considered himself compromised with so many players suspecting him and wanted to take down any town, even the least vocal among us, with him before he got the noose.

[Firebringer]

Honestly, I’m kind of done with the “hasn’t read” nonsense. It’s kind of tilting me, to be honest. It’s actually making me care less about this game, and now Sakura left too, so my lack of caring about surface level pushes on me are really having me not want to play anymore.

I’m town.

you probably should stop skimming

I’ve read and analyzed this game more than you have,so you should stop being surface level

u gay son

[Firebringer]

I will always hammer an L-1 unless I’m whole heartedly against the lynch with confidence if Day 1 is past page 40, and
both Gobbledygook and Firebringer know this.

I don't think ur scum for hammering. I think ur scum cause all u care about is when people scumread u.

[Flavor Leaf]

Has everyone read my guide on Focusing on Scum and Getting them Lynched?

I do not speak to scum, it is pointless. FL had an incredibly strong townread on stanley with his very few posts, and then when I asked to wait for his claim, FL quickhammered him, after he quickhammered the cop as town in our previous game, putting a nail in the coffin for town and allowing my scum team to win. This is someone who thinks he can coast by as scum on "meta". I know FL's will to win overrides his false intention of staying consistent with "hammering everything at L-1", so I ask you to consider how it's more likely he considered himself compromised with so many players suspecting him and wanted to take down any town, even the least vocal among us, with him before he got the noose.

I always do this, mostly as town.

Why would I ever do that as scum? As scum, I would gain more by defending Stan1ey rather than hammer

[Flavor Leaf]

I will always hammer an L-1 unless I’m whole heartedly against the lynch with confidence if Day 1 is past page 40, and
both Gobbledygook and Firebringer know this.

I don't think ur scum for hammering. I think ur scum cause all u care about is when people scumread u.

Again, something you should know only happens when I’m town.

I don’t give a fuck if people scum read me when I’m scum and you’ve played with me far too many times to think anything else.

[Blair]

Has everyone read my guide on Focusing on Scum and Getting them Lynched?

I do not speak to scum, it is pointless. FL had an incredibly strong townread on stanley with his very few posts, and then when I asked to wait for his claim, FL quickhammered him, after he quickhammered the cop as town in our previous game, putting a nail in the coffin for town and allowing my scum team to win. This is someone who thinks he can coast by as scum on "meta". I know FL's will to win overrides his false intention of staying consistent with "hammering everything at L-1", so I ask you to consider how it's more likely he considered himself compromised with so many players suspecting him and wanted to take down any town, even the least vocal among us, with him before he got the noose.

I know you're going to whine about how "surface level" this is, but... does it give you pause that you keep relying on an example in which Flavor Leaf was town?

[Firebringer]

Again, something you should know only happens when I’m town.

I don't believe this is true.

[Flair]

You're the gift that keeps on giving to scum, Flair. Very well, attention-seeker. Do as you please, brat, we will lynch the scum in FL and then clean up the rest.

See, bud. I don’t really care.

I signed up for this game to play with two friends in a setting they were most comfortable with. And instead I have to deal with players like you who make the game unnecessarily difficult and are routinely antagonistic.

If you’re a villager and you’re about to be ML’d I neither care nor feel bad. You’ve brought this upon yourself with your inability to articulate yourself, tell the truth, and communicate with others.

And if you’re a wolf then it’s just an awesome bonus.