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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:58 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Let's say the 2 scum are DnD and Klick. They shoot Chemist knowing that Pooky is going to get lynched on D2. Pooky gets lynched on D2 - they shoot off coalition - then throw a huge 1v1 fight on D3 - one of them gets lynched - the other one wins in the endgame if they can WIFOM it out.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:59 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I don't see that as a possible thing that can happen for a number of reasons.
1. Why would Dnd/Klick not just leave Chemist alive so they can win outright on D3 if they manage to mislynch Chemist?
2. It seems unnecessarily risky to set up a guranteed scum-lynch for D3 when there's 2 scum alive and both are on coalition - because you take away the chance of winning the game outright on D3 AND on D4 it's very awkward for the last coalition member to be alive in that endgame - very easily can get lynched there.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:00 am
by DonCorleone
Okay pooky, sure
I’m waiting for aldus to turn up and give thoughts and then I’m voting you, you can self hammer if you like
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:00 am
by Klick
In post 1947, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm the only person who defended him when he went to L-1 -> me flipping scum makes him look bad
[...]
Like why would I even bother defending Koba if I'm just going to shoot him at night?
So that you could subtly remind us of this
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:02 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I'm gonna die today regardless for messing up on the Clover push it's not really something useful to defend myself
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:03 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1952, DonCorleone wrote:I’m waiting for aldus to turn up and give thoughts and then I’m voting you, you can self hammer if you like
I should've just self-hammered yesterday
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:04 am
by Klick
You were also 'gonna die today regardless' yesterday when you were at L-1, yet in both cases everything you're saying seems geared towards getting people to second-guess themselves
I'm just here to make sure that doesn't happen
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:05 am
by DonCorleone
Why self hammer yesterday when it buys you a mislynch and a NK if you don’t self hammer?
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:05 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I went to bed yesterday sure I was going to be lynched
it's really weird I didn't die
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:05 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1957, DonCorleone wrote:
Why self hammer yesterday when it buys you a mislynch and a NK if you don’t self hammer?
cuz I think the town is even more fk'd now that I didn't self-hammer since we're guranteed 2 mis-executes off the bat now
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:07 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Maybe DonC is scum lol
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:07 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I feel like you put me in the noose - dangle me over a cliff then drag me back to torture me all over again
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:08 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Klick you've played a helluva game if you're scum but if you're town we're both in the same boat lol
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:14 am
by DonCorleone
lol if I were scum I’d have just taken your lynch yesterday as a freebie and then lynched clover off the back of it today
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:15 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
its true but Clover isn't as entertaining as me so maybe you kept me around for the fun of it haha
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:17 am
by Klick
The only thing I basically KNEW yesterday was that Clover was town but no one really gave a shit. That's literally been my whole game up to this point - I found a town and tried my hardest to ensure everyone else saw it. That's now provable since Clover had been flipped.
If you're town Pooky, tell me who Sleeper's partner is while you're still alive. I can probably fight off an execute tomorrow depending on who else is town (as I genuinely think thinking I'm scum here is a bit ridiculous at this point and am prepared to argue that if needed). The best thing you could do is find the off-coalition scum.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:18 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I've been wrong about literally everything so I'm not sure I'm ready to lose it for the town on the LYLO too
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:19 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
looking back too much of Clover push was based on my ego thinking that I had a good coalition and Clover was the bad seed in it. Koba was totally right about me being ego-blinded =/
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:21 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
this game is such a mindfuck - if you don't see what I mean.
just pretend you're me
and you're holding a townie pm. then try to figure out the game from that POV. It's wild
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:36 am
by DonCorleone
In post 1965, Klick wrote:as I genuinely think thinking I'm scum here is a bit ridiculous at this point
This is bullshit if pooky is town
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:37 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1965, Klick wrote:The only thing I basically KNEW yesterday was that Clover was town but no one really gave a shit. That's literally been my whole game up to this point - I found a town and tried my hardest to ensure everyone else saw it. That's now provable since Clover had been flipped.
That's basically the same thing as me with Koba.
Your townie got lynched and my townie got shot at night. It's kinda ironic the symmetry
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:38 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I can't wait to read the scum PT
they're probably laughing so hard at us RN.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:40 am
by Klick
I'm not saying I'll advocate just sheeping everything you say come LyLo
But equally, having your thoughts on potential Sleeper partners would be very helpful later if you're town
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:42 am
by Klick
Nah man I don't defend Clover in the way I did with the vigor I did as scum. But it's not a worthwhile argument to have before a Pooky town flip
If I need to defend myself tomorrow I will, and I hope you'll hear me out if so
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:50 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1972, Klick wrote:
I'm not saying I'll advocate just sheeping everything you say come LyLo
But equally, having your thoughts on potential Sleeper partners would be very helpful later if you're town
yea but I kinda feel terrible I think this situation we're in is like 99% my fault and if you're town there's a pretty good chance we lose right away tommorrow when you get lynched.