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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:35 am
by Menalque
Can everyone still on me explain clearly and briefly why I’m scum to them, if they haven’t already?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:38 am
by skitter30
In post 1946, Something_Smart wrote:she's got a strong enough role that it doesn't make sense to kill her early anyway-- if she's scum and we manage to kill both of her partners, then she basically autoloses, and she can't really use her role in a scummy way (i.e. blocking town PR's) since she's claimed it
Eh fair, this assauges my concerns a bit
I dont think i can vote out mena rn on the basis of the jk tho
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:41 am
by Something_Smart
I don't think I've ever seen your scumgame, but I wouldn't expect it to be all that different from your towngame, especially considering a lot of your initial reads were pre-role-PM.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:42 am
by Menalque
Weren’t you in GnR the third?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:42 am
by Menalque
Also I think I’ve played against you twice when I’ve been scum because I think I referenced GnR the third to throw you off me in the other one
Although I might be confusing you with datisi or icon or someone else
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:43 am
by Something_Smart
Right, I blocked that game out lol.
Iirc I was only really able to catch you around D3 or so?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:43 am
by Menalque
Yeah, you were inGnR the third, I just checked it, it’s the game the quote in my sig is from
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:44 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1954, Menalque wrote:Also I think I’ve played against you twice when I’ve been scum because I think I referenced GnR the third to throw you off me in the other one
Was it a DonCorleone game? For a while I didn't know that was you.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:44 am
by Menalque
Correct, it was when I started pushing you as a misguillo because you were viable but not the best candidate for lylo
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:44 am
by Menalque
In post 1957, Something_Smart wrote: In post 1954, Menalque wrote:Also I think I’ve played against you twice when I’ve been scum because I think I referenced GnR the third to throw you off me in the other one
Was it a DonCorleone game? For a while I didn't know that was you.
Ooooh might’ve been yeah, not sure
Although the only DC scumgame was a PyP game
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:46 am
by Something_Smart
I don't remember. What I know is that I don't have a mental model of how your scumgame differs from your towngame; in G&R III you were ~scummy~ but that game was so low-effort from everyone that it's not like the situation is really comparable to this game where stuff is actually happening.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:46 am
by Menalque
Oh yeah, that’s where I’ve played with you JV! It was the elmo teh azn PyP game!
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:47 am
by Menalque
I feel like that’s a little unfair
But ehh I take your broader point
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:49 am
by Menalque
You have a mental model of my towngame?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:52 am
by Something_Smart
I mean, maybe you don't adjust your play like that, but I got the impression that you were lazier there because you correctly figured that it didn't matter. I know I've had scumgames like that;
Timeshift IV comes to mind.
Pedit: I mean it's pretty nebulous but yes I have ways that I roughly expect you to act when you're town, as I would assume you have for me as well.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:57 am
by Menalque
Would u believe me if I told u that the only metric I sort u by now is if ur posts make me laugh or not?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:00 am
by Menalque
In post 1964, Something_Smart wrote:I mean, maybe you don't adjust your play like that, but I got the impression that you were lazier there because you correctly figured that it didn't matter.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:02 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1965, Menalque wrote:Would u believe me if I told u that the only metric I sort u by now is if ur posts make me laugh or not?
No, because you said you had a townread on me for reasons you didn't want to share.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:12 am
by Menalque
Then uh
My townread on you is for other super secret but very very valid reasons
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:16 am
by davesaz
In post 1947, Something_Smart wrote: In post 1937, davesaz wrote:Because I expect kills to aim for PRs. <If you doubt this just remember that I'm totally a mechanics based player>
I'm a mechanics based player too, but that doesn't prevent me from acknowledging that not everyone thinks as mechanically as I do. Just because you wouldn't kill Menalque doesn't mean nobody would.
The way I play often colors how I view others. I once had RC jump all over me for not bodyguarding him, and especially because I said I valued my town day play in that game over sacrificing myself to stop a kill on him. No, I don't automatically assume a so-called dangerous player will be the NK.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:17 am
by Menalque
I vaguely remember that game
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:18 am
by Something_Smart
There is a middle ground between "assuming a likely PR will be the NK" and "assuming a dangerous player will be the NK"...
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:19 am
by Menalque
The point is not “automatically assume a dangerous player will be the NK”
The point is “why does it seem unreasonable to you that /other players here/ might consider me a significant enough threat to get rid of me at night, even if you would not do so because you think that kill would be best used on PR hunting?”
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:31 am
by the worst
quack
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:31 am
by the worst
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