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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:01 pm
by PenguinPower
Boop
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:02 pm
by skitter30
man i was aiming to get that one
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:03 pm
by PenguinPower
Not while I’m awake
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:04 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
team pookuin on a roll
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:17 pm
by LegoLucy
It's annoying to not get to use a fun gimmick because I was kind of enjoying it so sorry that I wanted a second on the motion before dropping it, skitter. If you actually know me, you'd know it'd be very unlikely I would use a posting gimmick as a function of alignment. And you'd know that to the extent it involves my alignment, I'd have a strong bias against adopting a gimmick for scum games, because I've repeatedly identified my scum playstyle as among the archetypes highly focused on emulating a towngame with minimal interest in objectives, Ali's opposite, and a posting gimmick doesn't help with that. I'm also top poster in the bulk of my scum wins, "be opaque" isn't remotely close to my scum philosophy. I don't know why you're applying some other player's 2010esque scum philosophy to me if you know me.
But sure with more than one complaint I'll play more typically (I'm mulling over whether it's unsporting to require certain alignments from the complainers, it probably is, scum should get to , like, play the game and all).
I'll secret alt again sometimes and use more understandable gimmicks. Lash went fine. It was fun to have a gimmick as town but that might have made it more likely that I distort to an extent that becomes unintelligible since as scum I preview edit and like, is "curate" the word?, I refine my posts a good deal more.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:18 pm
by LegoLucy
I didn't really pay close enough attention to Menalque's progression. So that theory is a dud. The main point is the standard town explanation of what you're doing making little sense. If seems like it pushes some scum objective, it seems good to make my best guess at it.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:22 pm
by LegoLucy
I thought about how Krazy criticized my don't for being difficult to read and pushed me for being therefore scum, and then Krazy's hydra flipped scum. But I didn't blindly apply that meta to you without thinking about motivations! And I shall not! Wow! It's powerful. I recommend it please. We don't need help misreading eachother.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:23 pm
by LegoLucy
*font not don't
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:23 pm
by skitter30
ok i'm sorry that you're annoyed that i'm annoyed. if you had been easier to understand i wouldn't have protested as much.
i don't inherently object to gimmicks, i object to them when i can't really understand what they're trying to say
and i also wasn't inherently calling you scum for using a gimmick either, so i'm not sure why that's what you're like 'defending against here. if you're who i think you are the fact that you're using an alt or gimmick is utterly nai in of itself, and i never claimed otherwise
i'm saying that you're being hard to understand and the fact that you didn't try to make yourself easier to understand is scummy
and i wasn't saying that you should stop using the gimmick altogether either.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:24 pm
by skitter30
In post 1955, LegoLucy wrote:I didn't really pay close enough attention to Menalque's progression. So that theory is a dud. The main point is the standard town explanation of what you're doing making little sense. If seems like it pushes some scum objective, it seems good to make my best guess at it.
ok can you explain what parts of
1800 you think still hold and why then?
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:25 pm
by LegoLucy
Nah I'm not going back it's a streak bonus thing.
I wasn't being hard to understand intentionally, I just was messing up the weird subgame of breaking unnecessary had rules (bit not critical grammar rules) more for a couple pages; I got in a rut. I was doing better with it earlier on I think.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:29 pm
by LegoLucy
Your link is broken how rude.
The part where it's suspicious to push someone for being a "bad voter" that won't actually flip rather than pushing someone who is more adamant and more of a wedge vote on a wagon being an insincere defense is true. I do have the philosophy that when the scum characterization of an action is absent, the lack of town characterization is a weaker scumtell, though. So it's a substantively lesser thing unless I think of any other way to make sense of it I guess
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:32 pm
by skitter30
i don't get what you're trying tos ay either.
you think i should be pushing someone else on the mena wagon and that because i chose you it's scummy?
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i have a very, very, very hard time understanding your mena progression or how you wrote
1800(fixed hopefully!) in context of the fact that you just placed him at e1 and in context of the fact that the reads you're critiquing didn't happen the way that you're claiming they did (which you're now claiming you weren't following his progression which i find, well, dubious)
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:34 pm
by skitter30
like are you saying that i should have pushed the person on the wagon i thought most likely i could push to an elim over the person i scumread the most? i'm not really following
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:36 pm
by LegoLucy
In post 1963, skitter30 wrote:like are you saying that i should have pushed the person on the wagon i thought most likely i could push to an elim over the person i scumread the most? i'm not really following
Yes, because you said that you had a couple good townread but no good scumreads this game. So that's the best EV play. I've done it plenty of times.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:37 pm
by LegoLucy
Idk I guess maybe you are strongly scumreading me now suddenly but it doesn't feel like that should be possible with how I've been playing.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:37 pm
by skitter30
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:38 pm
by Day
In post 1940, Something_Smart wrote: In post 1938, Ydrasse wrote:i came to a revelation recently that showbiz is definitely top 3 best muse albums imo and even though its not nearly as good as like, absolution, i like it as much because of how raw and emotional and unpolished it is
I wouldn't call it top 3, because there's some pretty stiff competition there, and musically it's not especially diverse. But it has a lot of banging tracks and the unpolishedness definitely gives it a unique sound.
I don't expect people to listen and aren't trying to convince anyone with it, it's just why my read is what it is.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:39 pm
by Day
In post 1939, Something_Smart wrote:I'd like to give Day the benefit of the doubt, though I agree that it's pretty silly to be a secret alt and have a meta read on another secret alt and expect people to actually listen to that.
This one.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:40 pm
by LegoLucy
You love me skitter
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:40 pm
by skitter30
In post 1964, LegoLucy wrote: In post 1963, skitter30 wrote:like are you saying that i should have pushed the person on the wagon i thought most likely i could push to an elim over the person i scumread the most? i'm not really following
Yes, because you said that you had a couple good townread but no good scumreads this game. So that's the best EV play. I've done it plenty of times.
ok so if i'm understanding, 1800 wasn't you saying you were scumreading me, it was you critiquing how scum-me approached this in taht you think i should have pushed the person on wagon most flippable, which isn't you
(maybe this is why the gimmick thing is bad because this is not at all what i thought you were trying to say ...)
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ok so we're basically saying that you think the most viable explanation for me pushign you right now is:
- scum me
- pushing you instead of someone on wagon that is actually flippable
- so that i can save mena
and that all of htis is more likely than ... me townreading mena and voting the worst vote on wagon?
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again from my pov you realize how this sounds ridiculous, right?
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:40 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
its almost as if we are not speaking the same language at this point
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:41 pm
by Day
Aww, 'll miss the gimmick, Lucy. I found it hilarious.
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:41 pm
by skitter30
In post 1965, LegoLucy wrote:Idk I guess maybe you are strongly scumreading me now suddenly but it doesn't feel like that should be possible with how I've been playing.
than don't be scummy and post absurd things?
like i'm baffled that you think i should be townreading you here
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:43 pm
by skitter30
lucy i need like a tldr on why you're actually scumreading me